Is left back really a problem?

That's your opinion.

Interestingly Pep has decided not to sell him, this far.

Don't you wonder why?
No, it's because pep trusts him to do what's asked of him......if pep had no trust, he would never play him, and we would mutually agree to terminate his contract making him a free agent to go whee he pleases for free.
 
Okay, let's say that's true.

Do you think Pep is sentimental?

A) Why is he on the bench or starting?

B) Why doesn't an EDS player come in for that remaining spot, then, if he's 'so shit'?

Despite working with some extremely talented players, if Pep doesn't see your worth, you don't get played or you train with the kids.

So, any answers...?
Financials, amortisation, the need for funds elsewhere
 
That's your opinion.

Interestingly Pep has decided not to sell him, this far.

Don't you wonder why?
Mendy isn't a bad player as some people make him out to be. Attacking he's fine, but defensively could be better. However I said it before, it's more of a formation problem. He isn't used in a defensive role like Walker or in an inverted fullback that floats into the midfield like Zinch or Cancelo. He's role is to stay out wide and high. It's to occupy the wing so the left winger can come in centrally.

The problem becomes when he's up so high and wide it makes it hard for him to get back when we're counter attacked. Angelino had the same problem. They are used more like a winger/wingback in the formation, but have to get back into an LB position to defend. I think Pep realized they can't do this and I believe played a back 3 with Mendy when he did play later in the season.

Pep decided to put the wingers high and wide and have fullbacks like Zinch and Walker to invert/defend. Thus we were defensively solid, but scored a lot less due to less men up in attack.
 
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Mendy isn't a bad player as some people make him out to be. Attacking he's fine, but defensively could be better. However I said it before, it's more of a formation problem. He isn't used in a defensive role like Walker or in an inverted fullback that floats into the midfield like Zinch or Cancelo. He's role is to stay out wide and high. It's to occupy the wing so the left winger can come in centrally.

The problem becomes when he's up so high and wide it make it hard for him to get back when we're counter attacked. Angelino had the same problem. They are used more like a winger/wingback in the formation, but have to get back into an LB position to defend. I think Pep realized they can't do this and I believe played a back 3 with Mendy when he did play later in the season.

Pep decided to put the wingers high and wide and have fullbacks like Zinch and Walker to invert/defend. Thus we were defensively solid, but scored a lot less due to less men up in attack.

Again, excellent point well made!

Ironically I was going to add the positional issue, but thought it would be ignored.

Raising the Angelino issue is an excellent comparison.

The position in which Guardiola needs the LB is precarious and the team need to be in control of the attack in order for the defensive balance to hold.
 
Something I feel that's worth noting is that since 17/18 we've steadily decreased how much we press year on year. We've gone from crazy pressing to more strategic pressing.

When we signed Mendy, we pressed a lot. Mendy was a player that had been moulded by Bielsa and then played for THAT Monaco side. He was incredibly suited to our constant attacking play.

He's not really suited to the slower game. He can do it, but his weaknesses seem to come up more often. What I think has hampered him moreso than other players in our side is the injuries and whatever else is keeping him out of the squad, so he's not really had the chance or time to adapt as much as anyone else.
 
Mendy isn't a bad player as some people make him out to be. Attacking he's fine, but defensively could be better. However I said it before, it's more of a formation problem. He isn't used in a defensive role like Walker or in an inverted fullback that floats into the midfield like Zinch or Cancelo. He's role is to stay out wide and high. It's to occupy the wing so the left winger can come in centrally.

The problem becomes when he's up so high and wide it make it hard for him to get back when we're counter attacked. Angelino had the same problem. They are used more like a winger/wingback in the formation, but have to get back into an LB position to defend. I think Pep realized they can't do this and I believe played a back 3 with Mendy when he did play later in the season.

Pep decided to put the wingers high and wide and have fullbacks like Zinch and Walker to invert/defend. Thus we were defensively solid, but scored a lot less due to less men up in attack.
Tbf most of the major goal-costing fuck ups he has been responsible for seem to have occurred in defensive positions and been caused by issues of technique and concentration rather than a case of being caught upfield. Wolves away, Chelsea away last year spring to mind
 
Tbf most of the major goal-costing fuck ups he has been responsible for seem to have occurred in defensive positions and been caused by issues of technique and concentration rather than a case of being caught upfield. Wolves away, Chelsea away last year spring to mind
True, he's not the best defensively. Neither is Cancelo tbf. They clearly are attacking fullbacks and it helps them when we dominate possession. I remember the Wolves game we were down to 10 men. However, some of the blame of the counters were also because of the dreaded Rodri/Gundo double pivot which had to be deployed because Mendy was out high and wide because you needed men back to defend. It created problems all over the pitch especially with Dinho and Otamendo at CB.

We will see what Pep decides and what direction he wants to go. The problem with Mendy is that he really is only suited to play that wide left role. I don't think he can invert and not sure he can do what Walker does either. At least a fullback like Cancelo can both invert or go wide and can change formations mid game.

If the links to Robinson from Fulham are true this could mean he would be the LB that could be used like Walker. More of a traditional fullback that has pace, defends and goes on a normal overlapping runs. Also if we do get Grealish, he can link up more like how he did with Target from the left.
 
Tbf most of the major goal-costing fuck ups he has been responsible for seem to have occurred in defensive positions and been caused by issues of technique and concentration rather than a case of being caught upfield. Wolves away, Chelsea away last year spring to mind
Yeah, weirdly enough most of the goals we concede with him in the side (not too many either) often aren't to do with him. He does clearly have his moments though, that generally go unpunished. His complete lack of acceleration seems to be his biggest enemy.
 
Mendy isn't a bad player as some people make him out to be. Attacking he's fine, but defensively could be better. However I said it before, it's more of a formation problem. He isn't used in a defensive role like Walker or in an inverted fullback that floats into the midfield like Zinch or Cancelo. He's role is to stay out wide and high. It's to occupy the wing so the left winger can come in centrally.

The problem becomes when he's up so high and wide it makes it hard for him to get back when we're counter attacked. Angelino had the same problem. They are used more like a winger/wingback in the formation, but have to get back into an LB position to defend. I think Pep realized they can't do this and I believe played a back 3 with Mendy when he did play later in the season.

Pep decided to put the wingers high and wide and have fullbacks like Zinch and Walker to invert/defend. Thus we were defensively solid, but scored a lot less due to less men up in attack.
Each of us are entitled to personal opinion. I respect yours, but completely disagree.

Mendy is mostly terrible on offense. His passes are often misplaced and he seems to have lost a step or 3 of pace. Occasionally he'll have an excellent driven cross - but to me, it seems that most times he's just smashing the ball in across the face of goal - and if a teammate is near and the pass isn't cut out - everyone thinks wow! What a great cross!

Defensively, Mendy is awful. He's beaten for pace with frequency - and even when in position, he most often fails to stop a cross.

Mendy, for me, is at least as bad as "some people make him out to be"... or in my book, far worse even than that. Against a good side he's going to be a liability on defense and on offense much more often than not - the weak defensive link that the opposition will seek to exploit.
 
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Okay, let's say that's true.

Do you think Pep is sentimental?

A) Why is he on the bench or starting?

B) Why doesn't an EDS player come in for that remaining spot, then, if he's 'so shit'?

Despite working with some extremely talented players, if Pep doesn't see your worth, you don't get played or you train with the kids.

So, any answers...?
Not going to say you are right or wrong but City`s EDS team played with a DM at LB last season, we simply did not have one to challenge, we do now have an exciting youth LB that could be ready next year.
 
Its time to end this makeshift bullshit. There is zero excuse for that anyway with CIty's resources. Its incredible we keep blowing money on positions but always ignore LB.

Does Txiki hate left backs or what? Just look at how many right backs we have got over the years vs left backs. Completely unbalanced transfer policy.
 
I think it also shows a lack of really good left back options tbf, how many has there been that you think we should have gone for?
 
I think it also shows a lack of really good left back options tbf, how many has there been that you think we should have gone for?

Bertrand on a free would have been ok, sell Mendy even just for £1m, get his wages off the books.
 

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