Is life mapped out for us

[PannickAtTheDisco]

You're wrong simple as. I didn't say anything about the way anything is meant to be. Merely that whatever will be will be. Like if Brexit gets thrown out. Now stop being so fucking rude and stop bleating yourself. To use your words, you're tedious. Fucking tedious in fact. I've been patient and polite and e fucking nuff. So you don't agree. Who cares. You can tell me you're wrong for 24 hours. It's still not true.

now you're just doing what you accused me of, rich. You said every action is already mapped out, so why are you bleating endlessly about Brexit when it is the future and has already been decided. Render yourself powerless by admitting such and backing your point, or continue to argue in threads like that because it's an outcome you don't agree with and want to affect and alter, and then accept you're wrong. You'll do the latter, because you can change your future and path, and so every action you ever take isn't mapped out. So, you're wrong.

You've even changed the definition of rude to try and add weight to your point, nice try.

 

[Stoned Rose]

 

[Chippy_boy]

now you're just doing what you accused me of, rich. You said every action is already mapped out, so why are you bleating endlessly about Brexit when it is the future and has already been decided. Render yourself powerless by admitting such and backing your point, or continue to argue in threads like that because it's an outcome you don't agree with and want to affect and alter, and then accept you're wrong. You'll do the latter, because you can change your future and path, and so every action you ever take isn't mapped out. So, you're wrong.

You've even changed the definition of rude to try and add weight to your point, nice try.

You opening line to me in this thread was what exactly? "You're incredibly tedious Chippy_boy". Your opening fucking line. Fucking wind your neck in.

And you STILL haven't figured out why you're wrong yet. Painful.

 

[urban genie]

No the future could go many ways, the Multilpe timelines theory is about right, so if you are at a crossroads the direction you choose at that time decides how the next part of your life pans out, there are infinate possibilities.

For example I was offered a job working in Sydney for the 2002 olympics, and turned it down, I spent the time traveling round asia.
A mate who was also offered a job with me, went and still lives in oz and I may have done the same, but I ended up living a year in Thailand and also visited hong kong, singapore, malaysia, burma, laos, vietnam.
So the choice to travel around over a set contracted work sent my future in completely different ways.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

You opening line to me in this thread was what exactly? "You're incredibly tedious Chippy_boy". Your opening fucking line. Fucking wind your neck in.

And you STILL haven't figured out why you're wrong yet. Painful.

because I'm not, simple as. Yet, you're both wrong and tedious. That's not rude, just reality for you. Arguing against yourself now, just bizarre.

 

[Chippy_boy]

because I'm not, simple as. Yet, you're both wrong and tedious. That's not rude, just reality for you. Arguing against yourself now, just bizarre.

You still do not understand. You have no way of knowing whether you have free choice or not. It may feel like you have. But you have no way of knowing. So you cannot say I am wrong and the fact you STILL haven't grasped this gives me no confidence you ever will. It's perhaps beyond you.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Yes you are wrong.

I'm just not, you've proved it continually and changed your stance at least once.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I'm just not, you've proved it continually and changed your stance at least once.

Nope. Not once. I've said the same thing repeatedly. You just cannot get your head around it.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Nope. Not once. I've said the same thing repeatedly. You just cannot get your head around it.

you've gone from "every action in your life is mapped out" to "what will be will be", huge difference. Then proceeded to go and argue in the EU Referendum because you don't agree with what will be.

You can't have it both ways, it can't only apply in certain situations because you like them. That's where your narrative falls down.

 

[Chippy_boy]

you've gone from "every action in your life is mapped out" to "what will be will be", huge difference. Then proceeded to go and argue in the EU Referendum because you don't agree with what will be.

You can't have it both ways, it can't only apply in certain situations because you like them. That's where your narrative falls down.

Nope. If the future already exists then whatever will be will be and there's nothing you can do to change it because it already exists. You might think you can, but whatever you choose to do right now is already predetermined.

Imagine going back in time and watching some great moment in history where someone is about to make a big decision. They think they have an entirely free choice but you know exactly what they are going to do, because it's already happened. I've been trying to explain this to you for 3 hours. Someone in our future would know exactly what you are going to type next even though you haven't decided yet.

And this comes about because the concept of "now" is flawed. A universal "now" does not exist. It is a function of where we are in spacetime. Different observers have different nows and some are in our future. If they are in our future how can that be if the future doesn't already exist? These are difficult concepts, but please don't just say i am wrong again. You cannot possibly know whether i am wromg or not because there is no way of knowing.