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Is Milner Overrated?
- Thread starter BlueGun
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LongsightM13
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Nani? Don't make me laugh. Song?!!! BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAA!!!!!!! One of the worst individual midfield displays at Eastlands last season. Doesn't rate English players - is gooney really Arsehole Whinger in disguise?
Rammyblues
Well-Known Member
NO
I respect the players choice and well done for winning it. I just dont buy the players are in better positions than us actually. We watch more football than them and some of the worst pundits out there are ex footballers.The Fixer said:gooney said:rooney has been nominated in the past for both in the same year
Oh right i thought it was one or the other, either way he won it by players voting for him. I would say they are in a better position to judge than me or you tbh.
jimharri
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Are the Arsenal forums down tonight then?gooney said:I respect the players choice and well done for winning it. I just dont buy the players are in better positions than us actually. We watch more football than them and some of the worst pundits out there are ex footballers.The Fixer said:Oh right i thought it was one or the other, either way he won it by players voting for him. I would say they are in a better position to judge than me or you tbh.
The Fixer
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gooney said:I respect the players choice and well done for winning it. I just dont buy the players are in better positions than us actually. We watch more football than them and some of the worst pundits out there are ex footballers.The Fixer said:Oh right i thought it was one or the other, either way he won it by players voting for him. I would say they are in a better position to judge than me or you tbh.
I'm sorry pal but we'll have to agree to disagree on the notion we are better judges of footballers/football than the players themselves.
ono
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But if you negate the fact that he is English and he is young, because this won't have a great effect on how well he performs, with the exception that he can play in the Premier League of course...Damocles said:No.
He can play a variety of positions and play them well, he can both attack and defend, he's young and he's English. I can't think of a single person who we could get who would tick the above criteria.
Added to this, we paid £16m + Ireland, not £26m
I bet you can think of plenty of players who are versatile yet can attack and defend fairly well? Milner doesn't excel in either area imo. He is better going forward than he is going backwards mind.
I think he's a fairly average player with a great attitude and a great work ethic. I'm glad he's in the squad, but i can think of plenty of better players.
He's probably one of the most over-rated players in the league though, in terms of how much the media seem to love him. Terry Venables in particular.
So you are saying the likes of Collymore, Cascarino and Merson are better at judging players than all the fans?The Fixer said:gooney said:I respect the players choice and well done for winning it. I just dont buy the players are in better positions than us actually. We watch more football than them and some of the worst pundits out there are ex footballers.
I'm sorry pal but we'll have to agree to disagree on the notion we are better judges of footballers/football than the players themselves.
I was actually thinking about starting a thread about Milner as I was walking home, but you seem to have done it for me!
However, my point was going to come from a slightly different angle. It's about Milner, playing on the left. A bit of a dilemma, in my opinion:
On the one hand, it's generally agreed that he's very useful to have playing on the left against the big teams. He tracks back, makes crucial tackles against dangerous players (the tackle on Johnson in the box v. Liverpool comes to mind), and has the energy to burst forward on the break with Tevez and Silva.
On the other hand, you tend to only get 2 or 3 good chances against the big teams. Now, as much as I rate Milner's general game, I do find the number of moves that break down with Milner very frustrating. In the Chelsea, I remember 2 or 3 occasions where he could have slipped in little balls early to release other players, but he took the obvious route of cutting back, slowing the whole move down. My point is that you need to make EVERY BREAK COUNT, and I worry about Milner's decisionmaking in the final third, compared to Tevez and Silva.
Now please note that this is not a blanket criticism of Milner; as I've pointed out, I rate him, I think he was a good buy etc etc. I just think that it's a tricky situation.
Thoughts?
However, my point was going to come from a slightly different angle. It's about Milner, playing on the left. A bit of a dilemma, in my opinion:
On the one hand, it's generally agreed that he's very useful to have playing on the left against the big teams. He tracks back, makes crucial tackles against dangerous players (the tackle on Johnson in the box v. Liverpool comes to mind), and has the energy to burst forward on the break with Tevez and Silva.
On the other hand, you tend to only get 2 or 3 good chances against the big teams. Now, as much as I rate Milner's general game, I do find the number of moves that break down with Milner very frustrating. In the Chelsea, I remember 2 or 3 occasions where he could have slipped in little balls early to release other players, but he took the obvious route of cutting back, slowing the whole move down. My point is that you need to make EVERY BREAK COUNT, and I worry about Milner's decisionmaking in the final third, compared to Tevez and Silva.
Now please note that this is not a blanket criticism of Milner; as I've pointed out, I rate him, I think he was a good buy etc etc. I just think that it's a tricky situation.
Thoughts?