Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

[Cobwebcat]

I'm not Didsbury Dave though am i.

We'll never get anywhere in Europe under Mancini, sacked at Inter for it, couldn't deliver. Hasn't learnt from last season, and getting worse in Europe this season.

The fact you still defend our performance and managers tactics from wednesday is staggering, its just desperate.

Tell me what you mean by "in Europe" are you talking about Norway or Malta?

Explain how Mancini isn't as clever as you tactically.

What did you make of the stats showing Mancini the third best manager in the history of the prem?

Would you have sacked Bacon last season for going out of the CL at the group stage and winning nothing? If not why?

Champions League.

Did i say i was more clever tactically? all i'm gonna say is after 10 minutes (and not just me) i identified the right wing problem at Ajax. Neville said it, everyone did. Mancini didn't, 20 minutes later an inevitable goal appears. Just one example of many...

Ferguson is proven in Europe, put his kids out different story. Never played his strongest side. 250mill of players get a lesson of a bunch of ajax lads. Dortmund once again, a team put together which wasn't the best. The manager churned them into a good football side, once again another team who played us off the pitch.

Mancini would need ALOT of money to make us a better team, he couldn't improve players much by his own standards or the team. But a hefty amount of cash would...

Dortmund are by far the perfect example.

Right lets take your last 2 answers.

Mancini needed a lot of money did he? You haven't read the link I gave you at all. If you had you would know how utterly ridiculous you sound. The article shows exactly the opposite in a nice easy to understand table for you.

Dortmund are the perfect example are they? Explain how they are in pot 4 and let me know how they did last season when they have won their league the last 2 seasons.

 

[Freestyler]

Tell me what you mean by "in Europe" are you talking about Norway or Malta?

Explain how Mancini isn't as clever as you tactically.

What did you make of the stats showing Mancini the third best manager in the history of the prem?

Would you have sacked Bacon last season for going out of the CL at the group stage and winning nothing? If not why?

Champions League.

Did i say i was more clever tactically? all i'm gonna say is after 10 minutes (and not just me) i identified the right wing problem at Ajax. Neville said it, everyone did. Mancini didn't, 20 minutes later an inevitable goal appears. Just one example of many...

Ferguson is proven in Europe, put his kids out different story. Never played his strongest side. 250mill of players get a lesson of a bunch of ajax lads. Dortmund once again, a team put together which wasn't the best. The manager churned them into a good football side, once again another team who played us off the pitch.

Mancini would need ALOT of money to make us a better team, he couldn't improve players much by his own standards or the team. But a hefty amount of cash would...

Dortmund are by far the perfect example.

Right lets take your last 2 answers.

Mancini needed a lot of money did he? You haven't read the link I gave you at all. If you had you would know how utterly ridiculous you sound. The article shows exactly the opposite in a nice easy to understand table for you.

Dortmund are the perfect example are they? Explain how they are in pot 4 and let me know how they did last season when they have won their league the last 2 years?

-- Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:23 am --

Champions League.

Did i say i was more clever tactically? all i'm gonna say is after 10 minutes (and not just me) i identified the right wing problem at Ajax. Neville said it, everyone did. Mancini didn't, 20 minutes later an inevitable goal appears. Just one example of many...

Ferguson is proven in Europe, put his kids out different story. Never played his strongest side. 250mill of players get a lesson of a bunch of ajax lads. Dortmund once again, a team put together which wasn't the best. The manager churned them into a good football side, once again another team who played us off the pitch.

Mancini would need ALOT of money to make us a better team, he couldn't improve players much by his own standards or the team. But a hefty amount of cash would...

Dortmund are by far the perfect example.

Right lets take your last 2 answers.

Mancini needed a lot of money did he? You haven't read the link I gave you at all. If you had you would know how utterly ridiculous you sound. The article shows exactly the opposite in a nice easy to understand table for you.

Dortmund are the perfect example are they? Explain how they are in pot 4 and let me know how they did last season in the CL when they have won their league the last 2 years?

I don't need to read any links, mancini spent loads of cash and only just about managed to win us something. end of

The point is Dortmund the last 2 years have been made up of a side who wasn't the best, regardless of what they've won last season or not. Look how they've turned out now with the manager turning them into a proper team after such a short space of time. Sold Kagawa who was a massive influence on their football, hasn't made much difference. Imagine if we sold Silva now? you'd notice.

This guy has it spot on, i've nothing else to say on the matter. goodnight..

My stance on Mancini has been known for a couple of years. I keep trying to give him the benefit doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

The question people need to debate is whether we have won things because of him or in spite of him.

My opinion is that a really good manager makes the total better than the sum of the parts. Jurgen Klopp at Dortmund would be a very good example of someone who built a team up on very little money, moulded together an excellent side of unproven names to become back to back champions and became a team that looks sure to qualify at our expense. Indeed, one that taught us a footballing lesson despite those players having as little Champions League experience as City the club has, which seems to be the staple excuse for us round these parts.

Roberto Mancini's team is less than the sum of the parts in my eyes. Certainly this season. A really good manager would have seen us win the league by a good few points last season, without the need for the United thowaway, because his tactical buffoonery on the road cost us many points. Similarly, that tactical buffoonery is costing us more points and masses of goals this year. I would also suggest that we would have won the Carling Cup too last year with another manager at the helm.

Our squad last season was by far and away the best in the league yet it so nearly ended up with nothing. That was because he changed his tactics away from home. It should never have been that way. Far too often we respect lesser opposition too much. Instead of going for the throat when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play a containing game when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our attacking players strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't.

This season there will be even less of an excuse for those tactics because everything was in place and we don't have to contend with the first time nerves.

It would be folly to get rid of Mancini now but I would suggest that a trophyless year may well see searching questions asked at the top, especially if we don't really challenge for the title.

I think that the players look lost out there at the moment, and I'm getting vibes from the players that they just don't understand what the manager is trying to do at all.

It has always been my opinion that it was the quality of the players that won us the title in spite of the leadership rather than because of it.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

After what can only be described as an humiliating night in champions league football for the club. The question I am now asking which I guessing is in back of a lot of peoples minds is this it for Macini? Is this as far as he can take us?

I think we all know why he was shown the door at Inter, and this competition has been his archilles heal? Personally I have been questioning where we go from here or a few weeks, and perhaps the coincidence that we have brought in an ex Barca honcho might be a clue for who we are looking at if the trigger is pulled.

But even if Mancini can bring us another premier league trophy this season is that gonna be enough, personally I don't think so. Right now barring a miracle of biblical proportions we are out of the champions league and that just is not good enough.

We win never ever ever win the Champions League with Mancini. He hasn't a clue i Europe. In my opinion he has taken us as far as he can.

If he insists play in 3-5-2, yes, of course!!!

The issue isn't the formation it is the application of it, if players are properly prepared then it should work, the trouble is they are not so it does n't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_UEFA_Champions_League_Final

 

[Dodge MCFC]

Some of the posters on here need to buy season tickets for Blackburn Rovers !

 

[Cobwebcat]

Champions League.

Did i say i was more clever tactically? all i'm gonna say is after 10 minutes (and not just me) i identified the right wing problem at Ajax. Neville said it, everyone did. Mancini didn't, 20 minutes later an inevitable goal appears. Just one example of many...

Ferguson is proven in Europe, put his kids out different story. Never played his strongest side. 250mill of players get a lesson of a bunch of ajax lads. Dortmund once again, a team put together which wasn't the best. The manager churned them into a good football side, once again another team who played us off the pitch.

Mancini would need ALOT of money to make us a better team, he couldn't improve players much by his own standards or the team. But a hefty amount of cash would...

Dortmund are by far the perfect example.

Right lets take your last 2 answers.

Mancini needed a lot of money did he? You haven't read the link I gave you at all. If you had you would know how utterly ridiculous you sound. The article shows exactly the opposite in a nice easy to understand table for you.

Dortmund are the perfect example are they? Explain how they are in pot 4 and let me know how they did last season when they have won their league the last 2 years?

-- Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:23 am --

Right lets take your last 2 answers.

Mancini needed a lot of money did he? You haven't read the link I gave you at all. If you had you would know how utterly ridiculous you sound. The article shows exactly the opposite in a nice easy to understand table for you.

Dortmund are the perfect example are they? Explain how they are in pot 4 and let me know how they did last season in the CL when they have won their league the last 2 years?

I don't need to read any links, mancini spent loads of cash and only just about managed to win us something. end of

The point is Dortmund the last 2 years have been made up of a side who wasn't the best, regardless of what they've won last season or not. Look how they've turned out now with the manager turning them into a proper team after such a short space of time. Sold Kagawa who was a massive influence on their football, hasn't made much difference. Imagine if we sold Silva now? you'd notice.

This guy has it spot on, i've nothing else to say on the matter. goodnight..

My stance on Mancini has been known for a couple of years. I keep trying to give him the benefit doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

The question people need to debate is whether we have won things because of him or in spite of him.

My opinion is that a really good manager makes the total better than the sum of the parts. Jurgen Klopp at Dortmund would be a very good example of someone who built a team up on very little money, moulded together an excellent side of unproven names to become back to back champions and became a team that looks sure to qualify at our expense. Indeed, one that taught us a footballing lesson despite those players having as little Champions League experience as City the club has, which seems to be the staple excuse for us round these parts.

Roberto Mancini's team is less than the sum of the parts in my eyes. Certainly this season. A really good manager would have seen us win the league by a good few points last season, without the need for the United thowaway, because his tactical buffoonery on the road cost us many points. Similarly, that tactical buffoonery is costing us more points and masses of goals this year. I would also suggest that we would have won the Carling Cup too last year with another manager at the helm.

Our squad last season was by far and away the best in the league yet it so nearly ended up with nothing. That was because he changed his tactics away from home. It should never have been that way. Far too often we respect lesser opposition too much. Instead of going for the throat when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play a containing game when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our attacking players strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't.

This season there will be even less of an excuse for those tactics because everything was in place and we don't have to contend with the first time nerves.

It would be folly to get rid of Mancini now but I would suggest that a trophyless year may well see searching questions asked at the top, especially if we don't really challenge for the title.

I think that the players look lost out there at the moment, and I'm getting vibes from the players that they just don't understand what the manager is trying to do at all.

It has always been my opinion that it was the quality of the players that won us the title in spite of the leadership rather than because of it.

If you are not even prepared to read an article demonstrating the value for money that Mancini has produced then I was right you are an idiot wrapped up in your own flawed beliefs and nothing will change you. We can't debate because you know you're right because you've told yourself you know. 3rd best Prem manager in history taking account of money spent too. But you know better. Ffs.

Thank god you have gone.

 

[mancitygaz]

No

 

[Dodge MCFC]

Or Bolton Wanderers or Oldham Athletic .......

 

[Evo49]

Champions League.

Did i say i was more clever tactically? all i'm gonna say is after 10 minutes (and not just me) i identified the right wing problem at Ajax. Neville said it, everyone did. Mancini didn't, 20 minutes later an inevitable goal appears. Just one example of many...

Ferguson is proven in Europe, put his kids out different story. Never played his strongest side. 250mill of players get a lesson of a bunch of ajax lads. Dortmund once again, a team put together which wasn't the best. The manager churned them into a good football side, once again another team who played us off the pitch.

Mancini would need ALOT of money to make us a better team, he couldn't improve players much by his own standards or the team. But a hefty amount of cash would...

Dortmund are by far the perfect example.

Right lets take your last 2 answers.

Mancini needed a lot of money did he? You haven't read the link I gave you at all. If you had you would know how utterly ridiculous you sound. The article shows exactly the opposite in a nice easy to understand table for you.

Dortmund are the perfect example are they? Explain how they are in pot 4 and let me know how they did last season when they have won their league the last 2 years?

-- Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:23 am --

Right lets take your last 2 answers.

Mancini needed a lot of money did he? You haven't read the link I gave you at all. If you had you would know how utterly ridiculous you sound. The article shows exactly the opposite in a nice easy to understand table for you.

Dortmund are the perfect example are they? Explain how they are in pot 4 and let me know how they did last season in the CL when they have won their league the last 2 years?

I don't need to read any links, mancini spent loads of cash and only just about managed to win us something. end of

The point is Dortmund the last 2 years have been made up of a side who wasn't the best, regardless of what they've won last season or not. Look how they've turned out now with the manager turning them into a proper team after such a short space of time. Sold Kagawa who was a massive influence on their football, hasn't made much difference. Imagine if we sold Silva now? you'd notice.

This guy has it spot on, i've nothing else to say on the matter. goodnight..

My stance on Mancini has been known for a couple of years. I keep trying to give him the benefit doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

The question people need to debate is whether we have won things because of him or in spite of him.

My opinion is that a really good manager makes the total better than the sum of the parts. Jurgen Klopp at Dortmund would be a very good example of someone who built a team up on very little money, moulded together an excellent side of unproven names to become back to back champions and became a team that looks sure to qualify at our expense. Indeed, one that taught us a footballing lesson despite those players having as little Champions League experience as City the club has, which seems to be the staple excuse for us round these parts.

Roberto Mancini's team is less than the sum of the parts in my eyes. Certainly this season. A really good manager would have seen us win the league by a good few points last season, without the need for the United thowaway, because his tactical buffoonery on the road cost us many points. Similarly, that tactical buffoonery is costing us more points and masses of goals this year. I would also suggest that we would have won the Carling Cup too last year with another manager at the helm.

Our squad last season was by far and away the best in the league yet it so nearly ended up with nothing. That was because he changed his tactics away from home. It should never have been that way. Far too often we respect lesser opposition too much. Instead of going for the throat when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play a containing game when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our attacking players strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't.

This season there will be even less of an excuse for those tactics because everything was in place and we don't have to contend with the first time nerves.

It would be folly to get rid of Mancini now but I would suggest that a trophyless year may well see searching questions asked at the top, especially if we don't really challenge for the title.

I think that the players look lost out there at the moment, and I'm getting vibes from the players that they just don't understand what the manager is trying to do at all.

It has always been my opinion that it was the quality of the players that won us the title in spite of the leadership rather than because of it.

Read this post several times and still makes no sense whatsoever.

Either he has influence or he doesn't - they won the title despite him - or they put in a poor performance because of him - make your mind up.

Another clueless post in the most ridiculous thread I have seen in an internet forum - ever.

 

[Dodge MCFC]

Or Wigan Athletic .....


Nah deffo Blackburn Rovers !!!!!

 

[NPBlue]

It's no surprise a thread like this has come up. It was, after all, only 5 weeks into his tenure the first 'Mancini out' thread appeared on here!

At the start of the season, most City fans said retaining the league title was our priority, and personally, I haven't spoken to a single City fan who has said anything else.

The MEN today had a knee jerk about the quality of the Premier League, and this thread is no different.

Perhaps the poster was one of those lost souls that left the ground 5 minutes before time in the game against QPR.

Spot on. People can't wait to moan. Notice that the people moaning about the Prem last year shut up when Chelsea won the CL?

This year we still have the third best record so far with 7/7 still involved but that doesn't make a nice story.

The thing is, we are still in it. We haven't been knocked out, and we can still qualify. I'm not deluding myself, but this team has the ability to do it. I don't know any more than the next person if it will happen, but over the last couple of years, the team has shown a resilience that gives me hope.

It's not over until it's over is what I'm saying. Let's leave the reaction to facts, rather than maybe's.