Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

[salfordpaul]

assuming this is a big parody or piss take thread bwaaaahhhh...love it! benitez!! ycmiu! haha well done blues brilliant comedy!!

 

[Freestyler]

Don't agree with his comments today, he's on the verge of losing the dressing room.

So he says the players should be able to adjust, if they can't then they're no good enough? ermmmm he bought the players himself.

Truth is, he doesn't know what he's doing in Europe.

and when you consider it just becomes nonsense; Clichy cannot play as a CB his game and his physical attributes do not make him suited to this role, and he should n't end up playing RB either, he was exposed there against Sporting, surely that was enough for Mancini to realise to NEVER PLAY HIM THERE AGAIN. If he wants full backs that can switch to play CB he should of bought 1, Micah might work in that formation, the only snag is that he was n't with us during pre-season.

Tactical switches can work wonders; the key is preparation and application.

Mancini has shown himself to be lacking in these areas, Benitez appears much better in these areas, Mancini likes to pretend to be a tactical genius but he is n't, he proclaimed that there would be no more tactical evolution only improvement in physical conditioning. This is where he falls down for me, if you are not open to new ideas then you fail to spot them, even minor nuances can alter games and become solutions. Benitez shines out as a great candidate for his successor, if Mancini addresses his problems in Europe there is no need for the change but I have come to the realisation he never will.

The only obstacle to European success for Mancini is himself if he does n't realise this and address it then the club is left with little option but to sack him.


Watch this and tell me Benitez would n't make a good successor, he is even more media savvy than Mancini.

http://vimeo.com/51136791#

To be honest his tactics in the Premiership have always been suspect aswell as his substitutions.

I've always had the theory and opinion it was down to the player strength and not the management that won us the league.

The biggest one, Kidd convinced Mancini not to give up. He conceded the title, negative. What sort of example for the players does it set?

good manager, not as great as some think though.

That DD bloke's post was spot on, he said what i felt but i didn't know how to word it.

Mancini has cost us more points making big tactical changes, than actually winning and gaining points making good tactical changes. Even in the Prem he's done it, and this season he's done it.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Don't agree with his comments today, he's on the verge of losing the dressing room.

So he says the players should be able to adjust, if they can't then they're no good enough? ermmmm he bought the players himself.

Truth is, he doesn't know what he's doing in Europe.

and when you consider it just becomes nonsense; Clichy cannot play as a CB his game and his physical attributes do not make him suited to this role, and he should n't end up playing RB either, he was exposed there against Sporting, surely that was enough for Mancini to realise to NEVER PLAY HIM THERE AGAIN. If he wants full backs that can switch to play CB he should of bought 1, Micah might work in that formation, the only snag is that he was n't with us during pre-season.

Tactical switches can work wonders; the key is preparation and application.

Mancini has shown himself to be lacking in these areas, Benitez appears much better in these areas, Mancini likes to pretend to be a tactical genius but he is n't, he proclaimed that there would be no more tactical evolution only improvement in physical conditioning. This is where he falls down for me, if you are not open to new ideas then you fail to spot them, even minor nuances can alter games and become solutions. Benitez shines out as a great candidate for his successor, if Mancini addresses his problems in Europe there is no need for the change but I have come to the realisation he never will.

The only obstacle to European success for Mancini is himself if he does n't realise this and address it then the club is left with little option but to sack him.


Watch this and tell me Benitez would n't make a good successor, he is even more media savvy than Mancini.

http://vimeo.com/51136791#

This is either a brilliant joke or the most arrogant ill-informed post I've read in months. I really don't know!

So many people suddenly think they are tactical geniuses on here it's jaw dropping. How are they not in charge?!

 

[Barcon]

Don't agree with his comments today, he's on the verge of losing the dressing room.

So he says the players should be able to adjust, if they can't then they're no good enough? ermmmm he bought the players himself.

Truth is, he doesn't know what he's doing in Europe.

and when you consider it just becomes nonsense; Clichy cannot play as a CB his game and his physical attributes do not make him suited to this role, and he should n't end up playing RB either, he was exposed there against Sporting, surely that was enough for Mancini to realise to NEVER PLAY HIM THERE AGAIN. If he wants full backs that can switch to play CB he should of bought 1, Micah might work in that formation, the only snag is that he was n't with us during pre-season.

Tactical switches can work wonders; the key is preparation and application.

Mancini has shown himself to be lacking in these areas, Benitez appears much better in these areas, Mancini likes to pretend to be a tactical genius but he is n't, he proclaimed that there would be no more tactical evolution only improvement in physical conditioning. This is where he falls down for me, if you are not open to new ideas then you fail to spot them, even minor nuances can alter games and become solutions. Benitez shines out as a great candidate for his successor, if Mancini addresses his problems in Europe there is no need for the change but I have come to the realisation he never will.

The only obstacle to European success for Mancini is himself if he does n't realise this and address it then the club is left with little option but to sack him.


Watch this and tell me Benitez would n't make a good successor, he is even more media savvy than Mancini.

http://vimeo.com/51136791#

You'r making a fool of yourself, Benitez is fucking useless.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Don't agree with his comments today, he's on the verge of losing the dressing room.

So he says the players should be able to adjust, if they can't then they're no good enough? ermmmm he bought the players himself.

Truth is, he doesn't know what he's doing in Europe.

and when you consider it just becomes nonsense; Clichy cannot play as a CB his game and his physical attributes do not make him suited to this role, and he should n't end up playing RB either, he was exposed there against Sporting, surely that was enough for Mancini to realise to NEVER PLAY HIM THERE AGAIN. If he wants full backs that can switch to play CB he should of bought 1, Micah might work in that formation, the only snag is that he was n't with us during pre-season.

Tactical switches can work wonders; the key is preparation and application.

Mancini has shown himself to be lacking in these areas, Benitez appears much better in these areas, Mancini likes to pretend to be a tactical genius but he is n't, he proclaimed that there would be no more tactical evolution only improvement in physical conditioning. This is where he falls down for me, if you are not open to new ideas then you fail to spot them, even minor nuances can alter games and become solutions. Benitez shines out as a great candidate for his successor, if Mancini addresses his problems in Europe there is no need for the change but I have come to the realisation he never will.

The only obstacle to European success for Mancini is himself if he does n't realise this and address it then the club is left with little option but to sack him.


Watch this and tell me Benitez would n't make a good successor, he is even more media savvy than Mancini.

http://vimeo.com/51136791#

To be honest his tactics in the Premiership have always been suspect aswell as his substitutions.

I've always had the theory and opinion it was down to the player strength and not the management that won us the league.

The biggest one, Kidd convinced Mancini not to give up. He conceded the title, negative. What sort of example for the players does it set?

good manager, not as great as some think though.

That DD bloke's post was spot on, he said what i felt but i didn't know how to word it.

Mancini has cost us more points making big tactical changes, than actually winning and gaining points making good tactical changes. Even in the Prem he's done it, and this season he's done it.

How did Kidd get on as a manager? How many points do you think we should have won last season? You're an idiot.

 

[Freestyler]

I agree Benitez would be radical, but Mourinho wouldn't make the same mistake 3 times like Roberto.

When Jose changes the game or his tactics/formation, he does it cause he know it will work. Not by panicking and putting players in positions they can't play.<br /><br />-- Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:56 pm --<br /><br />

and when you consider it just becomes nonsense; Clichy cannot play as a CB his game and his physical attributes do not make him suited to this role, and he should n't end up playing RB either, he was exposed there against Sporting, surely that was enough for Mancini to realise to NEVER PLAY HIM THERE AGAIN. If he wants full backs that can switch to play CB he should of bought 1, Micah might work in that formation, the only snag is that he was n't with us during pre-season.

Tactical switches can work wonders; the key is preparation and application.

Mancini has shown himself to be lacking in these areas, Benitez appears much better in these areas, Mancini likes to pretend to be a tactical genius but he is n't, he proclaimed that there would be no more tactical evolution only improvement in physical conditioning. This is where he falls down for me, if you are not open to new ideas then you fail to spot them, even minor nuances can alter games and become solutions. Benitez shines out as a great candidate for his successor, if Mancini addresses his problems in Europe there is no need for the change but I have come to the realisation he never will.

The only obstacle to European success for Mancini is himself if he does n't realise this and address it then the club is left with little option but to sack him.


Watch this and tell me Benitez would n't make a good successor, he is even more media savvy than Mancini.

http://vimeo.com/51136791#

To be honest his tactics in the Premiership have always been suspect aswell as his substitutions.

I've always had the theory and opinion it was down to the player strength and not the management that won us the league.

The biggest one, Kidd convinced Mancini not to give up. He conceded the title, negative. What sort of example for the players does it set?

good manager, not as great as some think though.

That DD bloke's post was spot on, he said what i felt but i didn't know how to word it.

Mancini has cost us more points making big tactical changes, than actually winning and gaining points making good tactical changes. Even in the Prem he's done it, and this season he's done it.

How did Kidd get on as a manager? How many points do you think we should have won last season? You're an idiot.

I'm an idiot, yeah really?

You're the idiot, grow up.

Give a shit what Kidd won as a manager, he convinced and put the belief back into Mancini we could win the league. Mancini's 'mind games' weren't mind games afterall, he just didn't believe we could win it.

Changing to a 3-5-2 open to counter attack when the opposition are under pressure, then conceding to a a counter attack goal 2 minutes later is some of the worst management i've ever seen.

Clichy didn't know what to do, infact he didn't know where to stand. That's when you know you fail tactically.

You clearly have no sense about football at all, you must love how our own manager has no self belief in his own players, what a guy he is.

 

[Ric]

Don't agree with his comments today, he's on the verge of losing the dressing room.

So he says the players should be able to adjust, if they can't then they're no good enough? ermmmm he bought the players himself.

Truth is, he doesn't know what he's doing in Europe.

and when you consider it just becomes nonsense; Clichy cannot play as a CB his game and his physical attributes do not make him suited to this role, and he should n't end up playing RB either, he was exposed there against Sporting, surely that was enough for Mancini to realise to NEVER PLAY HIM THERE AGAIN. If he wants full backs that can switch to play CB he should of bought 1, Micah might work in that formation, the only snag is that he was n't with us during pre-season.

Tactical switches can work wonders; the key is preparation and application.

Mancini has shown himself to be lacking in these areas, Benitez appears much better in these areas, Mancini likes to pretend to be a tactical genius but he is n't, he proclaimed that there would be no more tactical evolution only improvement in physical conditioning. This is where he falls down for me, if you are not open to new ideas then you fail to spot them, even minor nuances can alter games and become solutions. Benitez shines out as a great candidate for his successor, if Mancini addresses his problems in Europe there is no need for the change but I have come to the realisation he never will.

The only obstacle to European success for Mancini is himself if he does n't realise this and address it then the club is left with little option but to sack him.


Watch this and tell me Benitez would n't make a good successor, he is even more media savvy than Mancini.

http://vimeo.com/51136791#

To be honest his tactics in the Premiership have always been suspect aswell as his substitutions.

I've always had the theory and opinion it was down to the player strength and not the management that won us the league.

The biggest one, Kidd convinced Mancini not to give up. He conceded the title, negative. What sort of example for the players does it set?

good manager, not as great as some think though.

That DD bloke's post was spot on, he said what i felt but i didn't know how to word it.

Mancini has cost us more points making big tactical changes, than actually winning and gaining points making good tactical changes. Even in the Prem he's done it, and this season he's done it.

I don't think it's fair to blame Mancini solely for our failures, and only credit the players for our successes. The buck ultimately lands with the manager, so Mancini should be lauded for the F.A. Cup and Premier League, but held accountable for the Champion's League failures. It'd be folly to get rid of him at this stage, but thankfully the owner and Khaldoon are unlikely to do so.

 

[Cobwebcat]

I agree Benitez would be radical, but Mourinho wouldn't make the same mistake 3 times like Roberto.

When Jose changes the game or his tactics/formation, he does it cause he know it will work. Not by panicking and putting players in positions they can't play.

-- Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:56 pm --

To be honest his tactics in the Premiership have always been suspect aswell as his substitutions.

I've always had the theory and opinion it was down to the player strength and not the management that won us the league.

The biggest one, Kidd convinced Mancini not to give up. He conceded the title, negative. What sort of example for the players does it set?

good manager, not as great as some think though.

That DD bloke's post was spot on, he said what i felt but i didn't know how to word it.

Mancini has cost us more points making big tactical changes, than actually winning and gaining points making good tactical changes. Even in the Prem he's done it, and this season he's done it.

How did Kidd get on as a manager? How many points do you think we should have won last season? You're an idiot.

I'm an idiot, yeah really?

You're the idiot, grow up.

Give a shit what Kidd won as a manager, he convinced and put the belief back into Mancini we could win the league. Mancini's 'mind games' weren't mind games afterall, he just didn't believe we could win it.

Changing to a 3-5-2 open to counter attack when the opposition are under pressure, then conceding to a a counter attack goal 2 minutes later is some of the worst management i've ever seen.

Clichy didn't know what to do, infact he didn't know where to stand. That's when you know you fail tactically.

You clearly have no sense about football at all, you must love how our own manager has no self belief in his own players, what a guy he is.

http://transferpriceindex.com/2012/...all-time-best-managers-versus-the-mxir-model/

Have a read. Have a think. You make Didsbury Dave look clever and he's been waiting years to moan about Mancini....we will never win the Premiership under him apparently.

The stats don't lie spoilt fans do.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

assuming this is a big parody or piss take thread bwaaaahhhh...love it! benitez!! ycmiu! haha well done blues brilliant comedy!!

He has been linked with AC Milan

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...l-manager-Rafa-Benitez.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

If he is a candidate for a super club like Milan, why not us ? Yes they are in mire at the moment, but they will expect a quick turn around, they may write off CL for one season but would expect a top 3 finish next season along with progession out of the group the following season.

Benitez for me is more than up to the job if you don't agree he has good record as manager, particularly in Europe then you are just being close minded, the only snag is that he did n't win a PL title with Liverpool, well he came close and they have n't won the league for over 20 years and he was the last manager to win titles at Valencia and the last outside of Barca or Real to so.

If we want to improve in Europe we could do alot worse and he would jump at the chance to stay in England and manage us it is almost a dovetail fit.

 

[Mdr]

Right now we need a team. A cohesive unit instead of a bunch of indivdual footballers. I feel in this occasion, you don't need the stars, the world class players. You need grafters who are willing to work themselves to the ground for the team, we need leaders. We've plenty superstars, but they don't make a team.

All I've seen recently is a group of players who, if I'm honest, don't seem to be putting in as much effort as they should. This whole power struggle issue is not helping.
If you look back to the night, and you ask yourself who wanted it more, I think, if we're all honest it, wont be City we're thinking of.
When things get difficult it's important to move forward as a team. Things are now difficult, it's not the end of the world, not even close, but it's been made out to be.

You win together, you lose together, it's simple as that. Everyone backs everyone, everyone helps everyone. No finger pointing, no inflated egos, but unfortunately, with a dressing room full of players taking in salaries we could only dream of, it's a hard ask to have a bit of common sense. Common sense is not so common, especially when there's this much money involved.

We need a united team moving forward or we'll struggle all season any time we lose or do poorly, which of course we will do at some point.
How you deal with defeat and high pressured situations is what makes or breaks a team, you learn more from losing a game than you do winning them.
We were never going to do well in Europe this early. It's a difficult to balance all these competitions and frankly I imagine it takes a while to get the swing of it.

Of course there is pressure on us to do well. We are expected, by the media, the fans, the players themselves, to do well. City's players on the field and on the bench are worth 300 million pounds more than Ajax's entire squad.
Something tells me there was a point along the way where we stopped trying to build a team and move it forward, and started buying superstars instead.
Maybe it's old fashioned, but a player who isn't afraid to do the hard work is priceless in this day and age.

We lost, we need to get over it, the players and Mancini need to stop thinking about it and focus on the next game. History means nothing in sport, all we can do now is push on and look to improve.