Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

It will cost us a lot of money to sack him and one of his potential replacements is currently on 12 month hiatus and with no guarantee that he will want the job.

You ask them first then, and agree when they would be ready to take over, this exactly what we did we with Hughes.

And if not this guy

Then why not this guy?

Out of contract and a certainty to accept the job if offered it.

We do have an ex Barca CEO as part of our Board of Directors but it doesn't give us a cast iron guarantee that he will want the job. As for Benitez he didn't last all that long at Inter and he should only be considered if we are nowhere near the top 4.

As I have said in other posts they would both do well under the right structure, Benitez dropped a bollock at Inter but that was n't all down to him and they have sacked how many managers since? Benitez would be option simply because of his good record in Europe, the squad would n't need drastic alteration to adopt likely his style and system of play and he already has PL experience of the four guys I would have as candidates; Mou, Klopp, Guardiola and Benitez in no particular order 2 are stongly tied to their clubs, if we can't get Pep then Rafa would provide a good platform both for continuity despite the change of management.

also Rijkaard does n't look like an option...

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2012/10/rijkaard-set-to-become-new-ac-milan-manager/

 

[Dethred]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Well if that's some of the worst football management you've ever witnessed then I have no answer.. is winning the title a few times not enough regardless of investment? yes mistakes were made, but is he not allowed that? some fans have been spoilt in just a few seasons.

You have no answer? Who put a 19 year old defender in the back 4, for his first match in a City kit, against Real Fucking Madrid (plus Maicon one-on-one against Ronaldo???) ??? When have you seen a manager force his players to switch into a formation of which they are clearly not comfortable and consistently fall apart defensively? When have you seen a manager do exactly that, concede a goal, change it back to 4-4-2 in a panic (now having 3 Full Backs on the pitch)... and then do THE EXACT SAME THING THE NEXT MATCH??? Its not fucking rocket science, and it appears the only person that doesn't realize the ludicrous nature of his folly is Mancini himself.

Everyone watching knew how stupid it was, every one of ours and their players knew how stupid it was, even the commentators were commenting on how silly it was. De Boer definitely knew how stupid it was, as he had his players pressurize our back three right after the formation was changed, nick the ball, and then score immediately (thus killing off the game).

I am going to reiterate it for the 100th time tonight. I am 100% OK with winning the title, its so much of a bonus that any of us could have ever hoped for in our lifetimes. Expressed as the primary goal of this season by Mubarak, advancing the knockout rounds of the Champions League is where the investment from Mansour pays off.

In essence, what you are happy with, what I am happy with, and what the majority of this forum is happy with, means FUCK ALL. I know we all think the money came in and whatever happens happens, we'll still have massive backing! No, but that's just stupidity. The investment must begin to pay, and having a manager that has proven to be terribly incapable in Europe over 6 plus seasons is not going to work in our favor.

 

[Ray78]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

You ask them first then, and agree when they would be ready to take over, this exactly what we did we with Hughes.

And if not this guy

Then why not this guy?

Out of contract and a certainty to accept the job if offered it.

We do have an ex Barca CEO as part of our Board of Directors but it doesn't give us a cast iron guarantee that he will want the job. As for Benitez he didn't last all that long at Inter and he should only be considered if we are nowhere near the top 4.

As I have said in other posts they would both do well under the right structure, Benitez dropped a bollock at Inter but that was n't all down to him and they have sacked how many managers since? Benitez would be option simply because of his good record in Europe, the squad would n't need drastic alteration to adopt likely his style and system of play and he already has PL experience of the four guys I would have as candidates; Mou, Klopp, Guardiola and Benitez in no particular order 2 are stongly tied to their clubs, if we can't get Pep then Rafa would provide a good platform both for continuity despite the change of management.

also Rijkaard does n't look like an option...

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2012/10/rijkaard-set-to-become-new-ac-milan-manager/

Good luck to Rijkaard with that one, as with their team at the moment he will certainly need it. As for Benitez he is a good stop gap.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

We do have an ex Barca CEO as part of our Board of Directors but it doesn't give us a cast iron guarantee that he will want the job. As for Benitez he didn't last all that long at Inter and he should only be considered if we are nowhere near the top 4.

As I have said in other posts they would both do well under the right structure, Benitez dropped a bollock at Inter but that was n't all down to him and they have sacked how many managers since? Benitez would be option simply because of his good record in Europe, the squad would n't need drastic alteration to adopt likely his style and system of play and he already has PL experience of the four guys I would have as candidates; Mou, Klopp, Guardiola and Benitez in no particular order 2 are stongly tied to their clubs, if we can't get Pep then Rafa would provide a good platform both for continuity despite the change of management.

also Rijkaard does n't look like an option...

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2012/10/rijkaard-set-to-become-new-ac-milan-manager/

Good luck to Rijkaard with that one, as with their team at the moment he will certainly need it. As for Benitez he is a good stop gap.

The problem is though who is capable of bringing success and having a long tenure?

Mourino brings success but in short spells, Guardiola could bring success but would he stick around longer than 4-5 years max, Newcastle currently gave Pardew an 8 year contract, so you can get a decent standard manager to long term deal, but better managers don't normally stick around as long. Benitez would n't have to be just a stop gap, he is as knowledge as any other on players, and how they play, has experience of the PL, Europe etc. Plus he has a house on the Wirral, is settled in the area and not looking to move, there would be minimal adjustment required, and he could stay in the job for many years, unless we have a team of players like Barca we will always be limited in style. Why not appoint Benitez, he could set us up to be on Real Madrid Level in a few years time under the right structure.

 

[I H8 Utd]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

After what can only be described as an humiliating night in champions league football for the club. The question I am now asking which I guessing is in back of a lot of peoples minds is this it for Macini? Is this as far as he can take us?

I think we all know why he was shown the door at Inter, and this competition has been his archilles heal? Personally I have been questioning where we go from here or a few weeks, and perhaps the coincidence that we have brought in an ex Barca honcho might be a clue for who we are looking at if the trigger is pulled.

But even if Mancini can bring us another premier league trophy this season is that gonna be enough, personally I don't think so. Right now barring a miracle of biblical proportions we are out of the champions league and that just is not good enough.

you don't want another premier league trophy ?

 

[Chi-town blues]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

all drama queens are out in full swing .......I'm hearing lots of bitches barking...
all you fuckers want is an instant noodle soup

 

[QuickSilva]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

embarrassing thread! i thought most blues had more pride and respect to be calling for mancini's head halfway through the group stage. he needs time. lots of time and support from all of us.

we are all upset about the results in europe but mancini is only half to blame.

 

[Chi-town blues]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

embarrassing thread! i thought most blues had more pride and respect to be calling for mancini's head halfway through the group stage. he needs time. lots of time and support from all of us.

we are all upset about the results in europe but mancini is only half to blame.

^^^^^

 

[Lucky13]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

If we do not get out of our group next season he will be sacked.

 

[MSP]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

If we do not get out of our group next season he will be sacked.

Next season too? Lol, I'd sack my father for dropping out from the group stage 3 times in the row.

He certainly won't be sacked now but he'd need to deliver PL to be safe and that's crap as it's another season of ultimate pressure.

After good ending of last season all we needed was a decent CL run to put that pressure from the back but it looks we failed miserably again.

 

[kiam06]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

This thread is a complete joke how can anyone question Mancini after he brought us the title? We have no divine right to win games in the champions league and in the group we are in I'm afraid we are always going to struggle because we are playing the best teams in Europe.

Ajax are no mugs and showed it at the swamp last year and Dortmund and Madrid are better than any English team so I can't believe the arrogance of our fans.

We will not do well in Europe for the best part of a decade as we need to build our co efficient points and get a pub group like united, then and only then can we hope to play one of the above teams over two legs and scrap our way to a win.

This is the number 1 competition we have to get real blues.

 

[Joga Bonito]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Well if that's some of the worst football management you've ever witnessed then I have no answer.. is winning the title a few times not enough regardless of investment? yes mistakes were made, but is he not allowed that? some fans have been spoilt in just a few seasons.

You have no answer? Who put a 19 year old defender in the back 4, for his first match in a City kit, against Real Fucking Madrid (plus Maicon one-on-one against Ronaldo???) ??? When have you seen a manager force his players to switch into a formation of which they are clearly not comfortable and consistently fall apart defensively? When have you seen a manager do exactly that, concede a goal, change it back to 4-4-2 in a panic (now having 3 Full Backs on the pitch)... and then do THE EXACT SAME THING THE NEXT MATCH??? Its not fucking rocket science, and it appears the only person that doesn't realize the ludicrous nature of his folly is Mancini himself.

Everyone watching knew how stupid it was, every one of ours and their players knew how stupid it was, even the commentators were commenting on how silly it was. De Boer definitely knew how stupid it was, as he had his players pressurize our back three right after the formation was changed, nick the ball, and then score immediately (thus killing off the game).

I am going to reiterate it for the 100th time tonight. I am 100% OK with winning the title, its so much of a bonus that any of us could have ever hoped for in our lifetimes. Expressed as the primary goal of this season by Mubarak, advancing the knockout rounds of the Champions League is where the investment from Mansour pays off.

In essence, what you are happy with, what I am happy with, and what the majority of this forum is happy with, means FUCK ALL. I know we all think the money came in and whatever happens happens, we'll still have massive backing! No, but that's just stupidity. The investment must begin to pay, and having a manager that has proven to be terribly incapable in Europe over 6 plus seasons is not going to work in our favor.

Nastasic NOR Maicon were the reason were beaten against Madrid.

 

[Pieblue]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Ridiculous over reaction, awful thread and to answer your question no.

This, a fucking pathetic thread, how many times did bacon face win it during all of there years of entering the comp.

 

[welsh_andy]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

bobby has brought us success, and i bow down to him for that, many many yrs we've been piss poor and we have league and cup trophies, can he cut it in europe? for sure, but the players he went after in summer just didnt happen, something is missing this season as tbh we aint exactly set world on fire, maybe it will come right, but this yrs champs league just isnt gona happen, we just have to look forwards to next seasons group of death

 

[Comrade Buka]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Ajax squad cost:

Vermeer - youth product
Van Rhijn - youth product
Alderweireld - youth product
Moisander - 2.5m
Blind - youth product
Eriksen - youth product
Poulsen - free
Schone - free
Sana - 250k
De Jong - youth product
Babel - free (originally a youth product)

Total cost: 2.75m

Obviously we would have won yesterday, had we spent another £100M during the transfer season.

 

[manimanc]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Fuck me only two years in the chimps league and it's abandon ship already...
People need to get a grip and realise rome wasn't built in a day,we need to be in this competition for a few more years before we can start calling the shots..
We're the small fish in a big pond of something that has been going for twenty years and personally i want us to win the carling cup before anything else...
My knee feels a bit jerky come to think of it!!

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Ajax are no mugs and showed it at the swamp last year and Dortmund and Madrid are better than any English team so I can't believe the arrogance of our fans.

Arsenal played Dortmund off the park last year and beat them twice. I'm not buying that mate. We should be beating teams like Dortmund at home.

 

[marcoboogers]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Its time for Platt and Kiddo to be sacked. Mancini only sits in the portacabin
during training, the rags do the donkey work.

Talking of Rags

 

[Marvin]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Ajax squad cost:

Vermeer - youth product
Van Rhijn - youth product
Alderweireld - youth product
Moisander - 2.5m
Blind - youth product
Eriksen - youth product
Poulsen - free
Schone - free
Sana - 250k
De Jong - youth product
Babel - free (originally a youth product)

Total cost: 2.75m

Obviously we would have won yesterday, had we spent another £100M during the transfer season.

And Utd's team cost how much and they've lost twice in the Premiership.

 

[marcoboogers]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Ajax squad cost:

Vermeer - youth product
Van Rhijn - youth product
Alderweireld - youth product
Moisander - 2.5m
Blind - youth product
Eriksen - youth product
Poulsen - free
Schone - free
Sana - 250k
De Jong - youth product
Babel - free (originally a youth product)

Total cost: 2.75m

Obviously we would have won yesterday, had we spent another £100M during the transfer season.

And Utd's team cost how much and they've lost twice in the Premiership.

Well said Marvin, some sense in what is a highly embarrassing & ridiculous thread