Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

[MSP]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

I don't think Mancini is second coming as many here but don't see this defeat is much of his fault.

Before the match we pretty much agreed it was the line up most of us wanted to see, he can't play for them. He can't defend corners instead of Lescott, he can't score instead of Dzeko, he can't run instead of Yaya..

Yeah, we don't like that 3-5-2 but we were pretty much done when he decided to switch for it anyway.

Players obviously can't beat this huge pressure of not being successful in CL, difference in PL and CL performances is huge.

 

[Freestyler]

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I like Mancini and love him for everything he's won for us but that doesn't stop him from being immune to critiscism. I wish he'd show a little more appreciation of his players especially coming off as a sub. Felt for Lescott after being dropped for two of the biggest games in his club career at Bayern last season and Madrid this, when he was taken off today Mancini completely snubbed him. A little common courtesy and grace costs nothing. If he's unhappy with Lescott sort it in the dressing room but in public show solidarity.

Was surprised at his reaction against Villa in the league cup where he stood on the sidelines and left his players on the pitch for extra time. If he's trying to play some clever mind games it's not working. Everybody responds better to a little show of respect, c'mon Roberto your better than that.

Totally agree. It's the one thing I dislike about Mancini. He shows no respect for his players. It's going to cause trouble in the end with the more stinger minded players.

I've said it a few times, i said it before that he will lose the dressing room sometime soon with his unusual behaviour and treatment of some players.

 

[blumoonrisen]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

how and where have we gone forward?

Would we have had a sick swan under Hughes? Or a stupendous end to the season last year?

WERE TALKING ABOUT HIS EUROPEAN RECORD!

We've established in England he can compete now, christ almighty how many times.

We aren't established in England till we've won the league a few times...one step at a time.. why on earth would you EXPECT us to do well in the CL after only 2 seasons in it..? plenty of time yet, give the man a chance ffs it's a learning curve for all of us. Patience.

 

[SlightlyDangerous]

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The problem we have is the premiership is going backward's, rags not convincing and Arsenal, Chelsea and us all beaten. There are 6 decent teams at most in the premiership and were all overrated. Look at Chelsea when they came up against Athletico destroyed, shaktar destroyed and they are ripping up trees in the prem. Look at west brom last weekend down to 10 men and a goal down, we still win, we get lazy. Once we meet decent teams in the champions league, we cant react, were used to the dross of the premier league, sad but true. I dont think we will sack Mancini, he will be carted off to the lunatic asylum if he dont watch it. Get back to doing the basics and stop messing with the formation Mr Mancini and Mica shut up.

 

[Freestyler]

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Would we have had a sick swan under Hughes? Or a stupendous end to the season last year?

WERE TALKING ABOUT HIS EUROPEAN RECORD!

We've established in England he can compete now, christ almighty how many times.

We aren't established in England till we've won the league a few times...one step at a time.. why on earth would you EXPECT us to do well in the CL after only 2 seasons in it..? plenty of time yet, give the man a chance ffs it's a learning curve for all of us. Patience.

I don't expect us to go out and win or nearly win in the champions league.

I'm talking about a manager who is tactically inept in europe. he's not learnt a single thing, second half tonight was quite literally embarrassing and some of the worst football management i've ever witnessed.

 

[blumoonrisen]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

WERE TALKING ABOUT HIS EUROPEAN RECORD!

We've established in England he can compete now, christ almighty how many times.

We aren't established in England till we've won the league a few times...one step at a time.. why on earth would you EXPECT us to do well in the CL after only 2 seasons in it..? plenty of time yet, give the man a chance ffs it's a learning curve for all of us. Patience.

I don't expect us to go out and win or nearly win in the champions league.

I'm talking about a manager who is tactically inept in europe. he's not learnt a single thing, second half tonight was quite literally embarrassing and some of the worst football management i've ever witnessed.

Well if that's some of the worst football management you've ever witnessed then I have no answer.. is winning the title a few times not enough regardless of investment? yes mistakes were made, but is he not allowed that? some fans have been spoilt in just a few seasons.

 

[Dethred]

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I don't expect us to go out and win or nearly win in the champions league.

I'm talking about a manager who is tactically inept in europe. he's not learnt a single thing, second half tonight was quite literally embarrassing and some of the worst football management i've ever witnessed.

What you say is spot on, but everyone here thinks you play 6 group matches and then its on to the final. No, folks. There are four more potential matches and anywhere from 5-35 million more pounds on the line. No one here is expecting us to even make it to the semi's, only to get into the knockout phase and not embarrass ourselves in the process.

 

[Freestyler]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

We aren't established in England till we've won the league a few times...one step at a time.. why on earth would you EXPECT us to do well in the CL after only 2 seasons in it..? plenty of time yet, give the man a chance ffs it's a learning curve for all of us. Patience.

I don't expect us to go out and win or nearly win in the champions league.

I'm talking about a manager who is tactically inept in europe. he's not learnt a single thing, second half tonight was quite literally embarrassing and some of the worst football management i've ever witnessed.

Well if that's some of the worst football management you've ever witnessed then I have no answer.. is winning the title a few times not enough regardless of investment? yes mistakes were made, but is he not allowed that? some fans have been spoilt in just a few seasons.

He's done it what 3 times? 4 times? every game big mistakes.

Not talking about the league, as i say were talking about his record in europe. got sacked at Inter for it, he's showed no signs of progression in the competition. How does the 3-5-2 still work? what part of him still believes it works? i often wonder what goes through his head.

Ultimately fails every time, luckily for Joe Hart we've not conceded 25 goals in this group. we've got away with murder, his European tactics are bobbins.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

how and where have we gone forward?

Would we have had a sick swan under Hughes? Or a stupendous end to the season last year?

WERE TALKING ABOUT HIS EUROPEAN RECORD!

We've established in England he can compete now, christ almighty how many times.

Yeah, forget everything else that was said just one post above...

Since you mention it, may as well remind you, EUROPE IS A LOTTERY.

We need to play 6 games. Each one individually will accumulate to the end result. Each one is a game of football, and there is no magical formula to win it. Christ almighty can't help you either. We just need to suck it up and move on. Calling for the manager's head won't help us in Europe. Domestic domination will. Give it time. We are still a work in progress. Ask about the Euro record in another 10 yrs and see what the answer is then.

JUST CHILL OUT!

 

[Freestyler]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Would we have had a sick swan under Hughes? Or a stupendous end to the season last year?

WERE TALKING ABOUT HIS EUROPEAN RECORD!

We've established in England he can compete now, christ almighty how many times.

Yeah, forget everything else that was said just one post above...

Since you mention it, may as well remind you, EUROPE IS A LOTTERY.

We need to play 6 games. Each one individually will accumulate to the end result. Each one is a game of football, and there is no magical formula to win it. Christ almighty can't help you either. We just need to suck it up and move on. Calling for the manager's head won't help us in Europe. Domestic domination will. Give it time. We are still a work in progress. Ask about the Euro record in another 10 yrs and see what the answer is then.

JUST CHILL OUT!

I'm not calling for his head, i never have.

Was just talking about his record in europe and his tactics which have cost us games, that's all.

I want him to prove me wrong, i'd love it. But managers who play formations no one knows and put players in formations on their weak foot on positioning is quite literally frightening.

 

[Ray78]

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It will cost us a lot of money to sack him, and one of his potential replacements is currently on 12 month hiatus and with no guarantee that he will want the job.

 

[SlightlyDangerous]

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Its time for Platt and Kiddo to be sacked. Mancini only sits in the portacabin
during training, the rags do the donkey work.

 

[Breaker]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

The problem we have is the premiership is going backward's, rags not convincing and Arsenal, Chelsea and us all beaten. There are 6 decent teams at most in the premiership and were all overrated. Look at Chelsea when they came up against Athletico destroyed, shaktar destroyed and they are ripping up trees in the prem. Look at west brom last weekend down to 10 men and a goal down, we still win, we get lazy. Once we meet decent teams in the champions league, we cant react, were used to the dross of the premier league, sad but true. I dont think we will sack Mancini, he will be carted off to the lunatic asylum if he dont watch it. Get back to doing the basics and stop messing with the formation Mr Mancini and Mica shut up.

Chelsea current holders and are far better now than they were last year, Rags won it in an all English final less than 5 years ago and made final 2 years ago and are also improved with their new signings, Arse are one of the only squads who give Barca a game without parking the bus -- even Spuds made a quarterfinal in their only chance at it with Crouch as their main forward.

unless you really think the Ukranian or Dutch leagues somehow prepare their clubs better than ours..

 

[Dethred]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

He can't defend corners instead of Lescott, he can't score instead of Dzeko, he can't run instead of Yaya..

Yeah, we don't like that 3-5-2 but we were pretty much done when he decided to switch for it anyway.

Players obviously can't beat this huge pressure of not being successful in CL, difference in PL and CL performances is huge.

He can not line the players up in a zonal marking system, the same one that fucked us against Liverpool. He can make adjustments to the depth of his strikers to get them into the game more, and he can urge Yaya to make runs out of defensive midfield. He ultimately is responsible, and he embarrassed the club tonight with his floundering and poor choices. When a world class left back doesn't know his role and is yelling back and forth with the bench for instruction, you have failed as a manager. Everyone, including the commentators, were discussing how Cliche was being overrun on the right side and nothing was being done about it.... and five minutes later it led to the goal.

Not only that, but immediately after he went to a back three, Ajax pushed forward and almost immediately killed the game off with another goal... and then Mancini switches back to the back four. I almost wondered if he put down half a million on Ajax to win, and did what he could to finish us off.

When a single player has a bad night, you can blame it on that player. When all the players have a bad night, you MUST blame it on the manager (and rightly so).

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

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It will cost us a lot of money to sack him and one of his potential replacements is currently on 12 month hiatus and with no guarantee that he will want the job.

You ask them first then, and agree when they would be ready to take over, this exactly what we did we with Hughes.

And if not this guy

Then why not this guy?

Out of contract and a certainty to accept the job if offered it.

 

[citymad]

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Definitely some odd decisions so far this season. Selling de Jong, signing Maicon, Sinclair and Rodwell as well as messing about with the previously solid back four. Not sure I can say we're stronger than last season, for me all we needed was perhaps one more top player and to continue where we left off last season. Still in Mancini we trust!

 

[Ray78]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

It will cost us a lot of money to sack him and one of his potential replacements is currently on 12 month hiatus and with no guarantee that he will want the job.

You ask them first then, and agree when they would be ready to take over, this exactly what we did we with Hughes.

And if not this guy

Then why not this guy?

Out of contract and a certainty to accept the job if offered it.

We do have an ex Barca CEO as part of our Board of Directors but it doesn't give us a cast iron guarantee that he will want the job. As for Benitez he didn't last all that long at Inter, and he should only be considered if we are nowhere near the top 4 and is more suited to Spurs. Rijkaard could be another possibility but like Bobby has a questionable man management skills.

 

[SlightlyDangerous]

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Chelsea current holders and are far better now than they were last year, Rags won it in an all English final less than 5 years ago and made final 2 years ago and are also improved with their new signings, Arse are one of the only squads who give Barca a game without parking the bus -- even Spuds made a quarterfinal in their only chance at it with Crouch as their main forward.

unless you really think the Ukranian or Dutch leagues somehow prepare their clubs better than ours..

Chelsea are in danger of going out, rags huff and puff and go 2 goals down against an average portugeuse team. 5 years ago is, well 5 years ago and chelsea's win last year was a fluke, Arsenal wont go anywhere but out after the group stages. As for ukranian league i dont know, but a team from the Dutch league stuffed us.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

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Sticking Clichy at fucking Centre Back, was about as bad as Hughes sticking fucking Gelson Fernandes at RB and Richards at LB. Bob had an absolute fuckin nightmare tonight...

 

[sergiofan]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

this thread is a joke, calm down!