Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

[the goats backside]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Jesus, 44 pages in 10 hours, doom and gloom bollocks. This is our 2nd year in this competition, 6 games against league winners, who the hell do people think they are on here at times, honest to god i despair at some of my fellow fans

 

[Pigeonho]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Jesus, 44 pages in 10 hours, doom and gloom bollocks. This is our 2nd year in this competition, 6 games against league winners, who the hell do people think they are on here at times, honest to god i despair at some of my fellow fans

It doesn't matter if it was our 22nd year. Spurs managed to put in performances yet our players, (some of whom have won the competition playing for big clubs), don't perform and are made to look very average indeed. Do you think it's good enough? I don't, but I also don't think Mancini should go yet - however I can see why people are kicking off.
This squad is superb, the envy of europe I would imagine, yet we look pretty poor in this competition. Why is that?

 

[CityWest]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Fuckin embarrassing reading some of the shit posted on here. Guess what.....we can't win every single game we play. We've been handed a very tough group and we're still fairly wet behind the ears ' as a team ' in Europe. I know everyone wants to see them get through and we're all disappointed but they'll improve and gain confidence over the next few years.
I really really hope Mancini stays for the five years on his contract. The one and only criticism is the constant formation switching. The players ended up confused last night.
Any reds reading this will be having a field day.

 

[kun1]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

MANCINI OUT-MOURINHO IN(if available throw as much money on him to take him here) and with 1 or 2 quality players signing in the summer(one deep lying playmaker and one winger) u'll see how far we can get, maybe even win it. mourinho would give discipline in the team and he is the kind of manager that takes 100 per cent try from any of his players unlike mancini. before mancini fanboys say different (he won us a championship and an fa cup, we would have won a lot more with another manager believe me) just look at the players we have and look at what team we lost. ajax is not the team that used to be. we should beat teams like ajax easily home and away with that squad just like real madrid does. if mourinho is not available there are other managers that can do a better job than mancini. and to those saying i don't care if we progress in europe u are clueless. every big team must progress in europe.

 

[StanGibsonspitchfork]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Disapointed with many if the threads posted last night. None of you were moaning when we were winning games and titles were you but the minute we have a wobble the knives are out and filmly placed in the back of a man who has brought us to a place where nobody else could. How the hell are they supposed to get back on track if we turn on them ? So what if we don't win the champions league, it's not the end of the world because we have a great team and manager that are challenging and capable. There are not many managers out their like Mancini who could handle a job like this so we need to remember that

A job "like this" ? Sorry do you mean a Job where a manager has a world class team and Millions of pounds to splash out ? Yeah its hard finding managers who can handle a job like the one Mancini has ....Oh wait Yesterday a certain dutch manager used a team that comprised of about 8 academy products and a 2 million euro player to trash a certain team that comprised of players worth millions of pounds .

Let's not forget who handles the team - Platt and Kidd, and the rest of the back room staff probably have far more hands on than Mancini.

I think lots of people would agree that the Prem maybe the most exciting league but I am pretty certain that it is not the one with where the 'best' football is always played.

 

[bluelol]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

We score we sing his name we win we sing his name. We loose, we want to hang him out to dry. God almighty.

 

[bobmcfc]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Disapointed with many if the threads posted last night. None of you were moaning when we were winning games and titles were you but the minute we have a wobble the knives are out and filmly placed in the back of a man who has brought us to a place where nobody else could. How the hell are they supposed to get back on track if we turn on them ? So what if we don't win the champions league, it's not the end of the world because we have a great team and manager that are challenging and capable. There are not many managers out their like Mancini who could handle a job like this so we need to remember that

Title, not titles.
Also, no one thought we would win it, but we have 1 point out of 9 and the performances are shit. As one poster said last night, 'we are the whipping boys of this group', and he isn't far from the truth. We've been twatted in all 3 games and have looked absolutely clueless and whilst I agree with you that the knives shouldn't be out yet, people do have a right to be concerned because to be quite frank it's simply not good enough, not with the players at his disposal.

So one title and an FA cup in 3 years isn't enough for you no ? You go on like we have an easy group like the ones Chelsea and united are gifted every season when the reality is we have a Even tougher group than last year. Yes Ajax are less expensive squad than our but historically they are one of the finest clubs in Europe with an academy barely anyone can rival. The eredivise is a less Competetive league so as such they are forced to part with their better prospects, however that doesn't take away from their standing in European football as they are a great club with plenty of european history and the team grasp what is expected

We are novices so far and fair enough we are fooking up but let's not overreact here, sacking a manager over one lousy competition is what put Real Madrid back for years. We have money and players but we certainly have no devine right to be tearing up every competition year in year out. If we sack Mancini we will be a big joke. We need to grow into our new found status and there are no quick fixes unless you want to end up like Portsmouth and the like that went for glory over substance. All this knee jerk hand wringing and baying for blood is cringeworthy and fans like you should go and have a lie down and and few deep breaths into a paper bag because you sound like spoiled brats

 

[Any1aBlue]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Disapointed with many if the threads posted last night. None of you were moaning when we were winning games and titles were you but the minute we have a wobble the knives are out and filmly placed in the back of a man who has brought us to a place where nobody else could. How the hell are they supposed to get back on track if we turn on them ? So what if we don't win the champions league, it's not the end of the world because we have a great team and manager that are challenging and capable. There are not many managers out their like Mancini who could handle a job like this so we need to remember that

Title, not titles.
Also, no one thought we would win it, but we have 1 point out of 9 and the performances are shit. As one poster said last night, 'we are the whipping boys of this group', and he isn't far from the truth. We've been twatted in all 3 games and have looked absolutely clueless and whilst I agree with you that the knives shouldn't be out yet, people do have a right to be concerned because to be quite frank it's simply not good enough, not with the players at his disposal.

So one title and an FA cup in 3 years isn't enough for you no ? You go on like we have an easy group like the ones Chelsea and united are gifted every season when the reality is we have a Even tougher group than last year. Yes Ajax are less expensive squad than our but historically they are one of the finest clubs in Europe, with an academy barely anyone can rival. The eredivise is a less I lettuce leave so as such they are forced to part with their better prospects, however that doesn't take away from their standing in European football as they are a great club with plenty of european history and the team grasp what is expected

We are novices so far and fair enough we are fooking up but let's not overreact here, sacking a manager over one lousy competition is what put Real Madrid back for years. We have money and players but we certainly have node one right to be tearing up every competition year in year out. If we sack Mancini we will be a big joke. We need to grow into our new found status and there are no quick fixes unless you want to end unlike Portsmouth and the like that went for glory over substance. All this knee jerk hand wringing and baying fir blood is cringeworthy and fans like you should go and have a lie down and and few deep breaths into a paper bag because you sound like spoiled brats

Mancini reverted to 3 at the back against ONE Striker - one of them (clichy) had NEVER played there before- I wouldn't even do that as a joke on my football computer game.................The biggest 'crime' though, was spending 50m on crap while the problem at CB was THE problem that should have been resolved over the summer.

 

[Pigeonho]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Disapointed with many if the threads posted last night. None of you were moaning when we were winning games and titles were you but the minute we have a wobble the knives are out and filmly placed in the back of a man who has brought us to a place where nobody else could. How the hell are they supposed to get back on track if we turn on them ? So what if we don't win the champions league, it's not the end of the world because we have a great team and manager that are challenging and capable. There are not many managers out their like Mancini who could handle a job like this so we need to remember that

Title, not titles.
Also, no one thought we would win it, but we have 1 point out of 9 and the performances are shit. As one poster said last night, 'we are the whipping boys of this group', and he isn't far from the truth. We've been twatted in all 3 games and have looked absolutely clueless and whilst I agree with you that the knives shouldn't be out yet, people do have a right to be concerned because to be quite frank it's simply not good enough, not with the players at his disposal.

So one title and an FA cup in 3 years isn't enough for you no ? You go on like we have an easy group like the ones Chelsea and united are gifted every season when the reality is we have a Even tougher group than last year. Yes Ajax are less expensive squad than our but historically they are one of the finest clubs in Europe, with an academy barely anyone can rival. The eredivise is a less I lettuce leave so as such they are forced to part with their better prospects, however that doesn't take away from their standing in European football as they are a great club with plenty of european history and the team grasp what is expected

We are novices so far and fair enough we are fooking up but let's not overreact here, sacking a manager over one lousy competition is what put Real Madrid back for years. We have money and players but we certainly have node one right to be tearing up every competition year in year out. If we sack Mancini we will be a big joke. We need to grow into our new found status and there are no quick fixes unless you want to end unlike Portsmouth and the like that went for glory over substance. All this knee jerk hand wringing and baying fir blood is cringeworthy and fans like you should go and have a lie down and and few deep breaths into a paper bag because you sound like spoiled brats

Fans like me? I've said Mancini shouldn't face the sack so you can forget labeling me with that.
Also, we're not playing history are we? Was Cruyff on the pitch last night? Davids? No, it was a bunch of children who many didn't give a prayer too. It turns out they're a very good bunch of children, however they were facing Yaya Toure, Kun Aguero, Englands number 1 keeper, Kompany - players the top clubs in Europe would take at the drop of a hat. They were made to look very ordinary and we now sit at the bottom of the group. You can forget the 'gifted' group bollocks too. United, Chelsea and Arsenal have earned their right to get put in the pots they are placed in, because they have done this season in, season out - with all 3 getting to finals and 2 of them winning it. We are a million miles away from even progressing to the knock out stage and it has NOTHING to do with the groups we are placed in. Did you see Ribery's reaction to drawing us last season? He fucking hated it because we are looked at as a real quality side - it's just a pity we don't play as such (in this competition).

I reiterate - Mancini shouldn't face calls for the sack yet, but people have more than a right to be pissed off. People like you should stop living in the past and realise we will not progress whilst we play like we play in this competition.

 

[the goats backside]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Jesus, 44 pages in 10 hours, doom and gloom bollocks. This is our 2nd year in this competition, 6 games against league winners, who the hell do people think they are on here at times, honest to god i despair at some of my fellow fans

It doesn't matter if it was our 22nd year. Spurs managed to put in performances yet our players, (some of whom have won the competition playing for big clubs), don't perform and are made to look very average indeed. Do you think it's good enough? I don't, but I also don't think Mancini should go yet - however I can see why people are kicking off.
This squad is superb, the envy of europe I would imagine, yet we look pretty poor in this competition. Why is that?

6 champ league games, a league game either side makes 12 league games, a third of our season. Did anyone really think we were ready to go far in the champs and win the league. Yes spurs did well but where did they finish in our league. Us and scum got knocked out early last year, how many points did we both finish ahead of the champ league winners,

 

[Beanie The Wonder Horse]

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To the Mancini out dickheads. One question.

If we sack a manager for winning us the league, being unbeaten in the current campaign but doing poorly in the toughest champions league group you could get in our 2nd season in the competition, which manager in their right mind would ever want to come to us?

 

[bobmcfc]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Title, not titles.
Also, no one thought we would win it, but we have 1 point out of 9 and the performances are shit. As one poster said last night, 'we are the whipping boys of this group', and he isn't far from the truth. We've been twatted in all 3 games and have looked absolutely clueless and whilst I agree with you that the knives shouldn't be out yet, people do have a right to be concerned because to be quite frank it's simply not good enough, not with the players at his disposal.

So one title and an FA cup in 3 years isn't enough for you no ? You go on like we have an easy group like the ones Chelsea and united are gifted every season when the reality is we have a Even tougher group than last year. Yes Ajax are less expensive squad than our but historically they are one of the finest clubs in Europe, with an academy barely anyone can rival. The eredivise is a less I lettuce leave so as such they are forced to part with their better prospects, however that doesn't take away from their standing in European football as they are a great club with plenty of european history and the team grasp what is expected

We are novices so far and fair enough we are fooking up but let's not overreact here, sacking a manager over one lousy competition is what put Real Madrid back for years. We have money and players but we certainly have node one right to be tearing up every competition year in year out. If we sack Mancini we will be a big joke. We need to grow into our new found status and there are no quick fixes unless you want to end unlike Portsmouth and the like that went for glory over substance. All this knee jerk hand wringing and baying fir blood is cringeworthy and fans like you should go and have a lie down and and few deep breaths into a paper bag because you sound like spoiled brats

Mancini reverted to 3 at the back against ONE Striker - one of them (clichy) had NEVER played there before- I wouldn't even do that as a joke on my football computer game.................The biggest 'crime' though, was spending 50m on crap while the problem at CB was THE problem that should have been resolved over the summer.

We are well aware that Mancini wasn't able to sign the players who were his first choice but he signed nastasic who seems pretty decent at cb so far. And saying 50m on crap is a little short sighted at this point considering how many of those signings actually played last night. I don't care for 3 at the back but Mancini isn't the type to only have no back up plan and it will work against certain teams once our players get to grip with the new for formations

 

[Pigeonho]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Jesus, 44 pages in 10 hours, doom and gloom bollocks. This is our 2nd year in this competition, 6 games against league winners, who the hell do people think they are on here at times, honest to god i despair at some of my fellow fans

It doesn't matter if it was our 22nd year. Spurs managed to put in performances yet our players, (some of whom have won the competition playing for big clubs), don't perform and are made to look very average indeed. Do you think it's good enough? I don't, but I also don't think Mancini should go yet - however I can see why people are kicking off.
This squad is superb, the envy of europe I would imagine, yet we look pretty poor in this competition. Why is that?

6 champ league games, a league game either side makes 12 league games, a third of our season. Did anyone really think we were ready to go far in the champs and win the league. Yes spurs did well but where did they finish in our league. Us and scum got knocked out early last year, how many points did we both finish ahead of the champ league winners,

Anyone who thought we would win it would be deluded, but people would be right to expect to qualify for the groups, or at least look half decent whilst playing in that group. As it stands, neither is happening.

 

[mkblue]

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I am 50 next year and I like a lot of blues have been through grim times but we are still here, I'm having the time of my life, we have some of the best players in the world, we are the premier league champions, I don't care if it takes longer to conquer Europe, we will win the league again this year and I'm a happy man, well done Roberto keep the faith

 

[peoffrey]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

To the Mancini out dickheads. One question.

If we sack a manager for winning us the league, being unbeaten in the current campaign but doing poorly in the toughest champions league group you could get in our 2nd season in the competition, which manager in their right mind would ever want to come to us?

I don't personally advocate sacking him now but Managers take jobs regardless. They're savvy enough to know how much they're getting paid and how much they'll walk away with if they get fired.

Mancini's record in Europe as a Manager is consistently poor and always has been. I did a little research on him when he got the job and it immediately stuck out. The problem is that you can't compare our project to anything else out there in football. Not even what happened at Chelsea. City want domination and, whilst Mancini will take credit for bringing in initial silverware, he won't be the man for the long term whilst this poor European record continues and our defensive frailties this season follow suit.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Jesus, 44 pages in 10 hours, doom and gloom bollocks. This is our 2nd year in this competition, 6 games against league winners, who the hell do people think they are on here at times, honest to god i despair at some of my fellow fans

Correct me if i am wrong but i thought we won the league some months back or was that a different title and if i'm right about us winning the league then doesn't that make us league winners also ? Here's our starting 11 against that of Ajax . Now tell me who should COMFORTABLY walk away with a win and who shouldn't .

CITY
J. Hart , M. Richards , V. Kompany , J. Lescott , G. Clichy , Y. Touré , G. Barry , J. Milner , S. Agüero ,S. Nasri , E. Dzeko , C. Tévez , S. Sinclair , A. Kolarov , M. Balotelli ,C. Pantilimon ,M. Nastasic ,G. Evans

Average age 26

AJAX
K. Vermeer , R. van Rhijn , T. Alderweireld , N. Moisander , D. Blind , C. Poulsen , L. Schöne , S. de Jong , T. Sana , R. Babel , C. Eriksen , M. Sulejmani , E. Enoh , D. Boerrigter , J. Cillessen , J. Veltman , M. Dijks , V. Fischer

Average age 22

I don't even want to talk about the cost of our squad as against theirs but lets just say Balotelli cost more than the entire Ajax squad.

While members here can criticize me for being too critical of Mancini , we must understand that when building a brand you have to be ambitious , You pick up a trophy , try to do it again next season while at the same time you aim for success in other competitions. This excuse of "He got us our first trophy" is getting boring now . We are at the top and yet some still think we are a fluke / mediocre team because we look clueless at the TOP .

 

[Kazzydeyna]

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The disgusting reactions on here don't surprise me at all.

It's par for the course for bluemoan.

A little part of me almost wishes the sheik would fuck us off so all the so called top blues could fuck off back to supporting Chelsea and arsenal.

Disgraceful.

 

[Asa Clubs]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Some Man City fans have short memories (remember there were times last season when it was not going well for the good guys).

The knives are out unfairly after 1 defeat. Remember...

Allison spent a lot and won nothing.
Keegan spent a lot and won nothing.
Mancini spent a lot and won a lot.

Ferguson:
No trophies in his first 4 years.
Had to wait 4 years for his first trophy. That was 5 years since their Man Utd's last trophy.
Had to wait 13 years for the first champion's league trophy.
A legend at the club.

Mancini:
2 trophies in his first 3 years.
Waited just 18 months for his first trophy. That was 35 years since Man City's last trophy.
Delivered 2 champions league seasons for a club that had only participated in the European Cup once previously.
Jury is still out according to some 'dubious' fans.

All previous City managers:
Spent a lot and won nothing.

If I was a neutral (OK, maybe I am not) then I'd say everyone should vote 'Mancini' for the next election. He is a genius! Keep the faith!

 

[Drewmanc]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Couldn't give one fuck about the CL. I've never seen it as that big a win, cup competitions are about luck as much as quality. Give me another Premier league this season and I'll be happy, Mancini will have plenty of time over the next 5 years to understand the CL if that's what HRH wants.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Re: Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the clubs

Some Man City fans have short memories (remember there were times last season when it was not going well for the good guys).

The knives are out unfairly after 1 defeat. Remember...

Allison spent a lot and won nothing.
Keegan spent a lot and won nothing.
Mancini spent a lot and won a lot.

Ferguson:
No trophies in his first 4 years.
Had to wait 4 years for his first trophy. That was 5 years since their Man Utd's last trophy.
Had to wait 13 years for the first champion's league trophy.
A legend at the club.

Mancini:
2 trophies in his first 3 years.
Waited just 18 months for his first trophy. That was 35 years since Man City's last trophy.
Delivered 2 champions league seasons for a club that had only participated in the European Cup once previously.
Jury is still out according to some 'dubious' fans.

All previous City managers:
Spent a lot and won nothing.

If I was a neutral (OK, maybe I am not) then I'd say everyone should vote 'Mancini' for the next election. He is a genius! Keep the faith!

Its not about winning the UCL its about getting past the group stages . Once you do that your team would be respected in Europe and who knows the team might be lucky enough to be drawn against a minnow team from Turkey or Norway in the next stage then we can take advantage of that and move to the next stage .