Is our cycle of dominance coming to an end?

[Grassland Blue]

City are back!

:D

Typical...

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

We have dominated domestic football for the last 10 years but history always tells us that football is cyclical.

Our dominance was predominantly built on a core of Kompany, Toure, Silva, Aguero (and Fernandinho). All of them had/have true leadership, determination and left such an incredible mark on our club they have been and will be extremely difficult to replace.

Since then we’ve never signed the real world class player, but instead have trained potential up to being world class. Hence our model is built on players coming in with the right mentality, with a point to prove and supplementing our main men.

Eventually that model misses the target on recruitment or you lack enough leaders in the dressing room such that those with potential don’t live up to the hype.

With potentially all of the above gone by the end of this season, who is going to step up.
We now have a vacuum of vocal/physical leaders in the dressing room that is more important now than adding quality.

Without them we become weak (Arsenal, Chelsea and United have shown this in recent years) and without them we struggle to attract the superstar again without paying the big wages we did at the start.

We are at a critical time in our recent history, where we are still living off the foundations built by the players at the top. But soon as they are gone, who is there to carry the burden.

KDB will be one.
But after that we need a CB, a CDM and a ST all that dominate where we currently have none (once aguero is gone).

You can win cups with good players that deliver in the moment, but you will not dominate for an extended period without a spine of leaders. And currently we are miles off that.

Wouldn't say we dominated, successful yes.

Dominated would be what United or Liverpool did in a short period of time.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Jesus was a bargain and no way deserves to be labelled in the context of that list.

I wouldn't include Mahrez, Gundo or Rodri in that list either.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I personally think so. However we may be able to get another tune out of the piano before it really kicks in. We still for now have one of the best players in the world and that always helps.

I think we have dropped a bollock in the transfer market for the last couple of years signing good but not exceptional players and this will cost us unless we pull a rabbit or two out of the hat.

Time will tell.

 

[Del_Bosque]

Jesus was a bargain and no way deserves to be labelled in the context of that list.

he was a lot of money for a teenager but we would definitely make a sizeable profit on him if he went

point was more he’s not a reliable goal scorer, if Aguero was to miss 3-4 months I don’t think Jesus is a good enough finisher to win us the league

He’ll score goals when we run riot, but those tight away games and the games against our title rivals he misses too many chances

24 big chances missed last season

 

[lee one pen]

Last year was our end. Maybe we can start a new one though.

We finished 2nd in the league won a cup and got to the quarters in the champions league. Totally unthinkable 15yrs ago.

 

[blueparrot]

Think we’ve made some Underwhelming signings since Peps been here

Mahrez £60m
Stones £50m
Mendy £50m
Gundogan £30m
Cancelo £60m
Rodri £65m
Jesus £30m

A lot of money on players nobody would miss if they left

Now Mancini and Pellegrinis signings are coming to the end of their time, we are having to rely on the above and they can play well in patches but are nowhere near consistent enough

Could argue with some of that list, definitely Jesus.The main point is though you do the same list for any time pre Pep, will be post Pep,could also do it for any other club.
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[lee one pen]

Wouldn't say we dominated, successful yes.

Dominated would be what United or Liverpool did in a short period of time.

We won 9 out of 10 domestic trophies. No one has ever dominated more than that.

 

[willipp]

It does feel like if we want to really stay at the level we have been over the last few years we will need to have a pretty unreal transfer windows sometime soon. We need to rebuild our spine pretty soon (CB, DM and CF) and we cannot do that cheaply. Agueros replacement and a top class athletic MF are 200 million alone in reality, so at some point we have to go big. If we don't, i can see others catching us (Chelsea being the ones).

 

[HelloCity]

Why will they fade away?

The same could be said when Pep leaves.

Both clubs have a system in place that does not rely on any one individual.

Ever manager has a shelf life, in my opinion Pep is close to the end of his with us. He has achived so much, an incredible manager, but not bigger than the club.

Only going off the evidence.

We’ve won the league under 3 different managers in the PL and were always favourites going into each season no matter who was in charge. We were always the team to beat over the last decade.

Liverpool meanwhile came close to winning the title in 2014 but were otherwise average without Klopp in the 2010s.

A lot of Liverpool’s success comes down to Klopp being a great manager and signings turning out way better than expected. We can’t really comment on their structure carrying them forward because there’s no evidence of that being the case.