Is Pep the greatest?

Pep is a great manager ,
just wonder if he hadn’t had Messi at Barca in a two team league , or gone it the biggest club in Germany , or the wealthiest club in Britain . What might have happened if he’d been at Athletico Madrid, Eintracht Frankfurt or gone to Leeds , would he be considered great .
When he leave you basically he’ll want to succeed in France and Italy , he’d only go to PSG and Juve
 
Or say a 4th division side at the bottom of the table full of nobodies, only to win the division that year - except he did already

No one has consistently produced the best football like Pep has
 
OB1 said:
Nope.

He will try different formations out depending on the circumstances but the primary framework is unlikely to change from 4-3-3 / 3-4-3.

I thought we would see more variety in formation from Pep. I forget the exact numbers but in his last season at Bayern there was a spell in the season where he used about 7 different formations in 10 games. However, so far, at City he has stayed very consistent in formation and I think that will continue; unless our opponents start to do something radically different.
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But that's because the vast majority of teams in the PL tend to play 4-5-1 or 5-4-1 against us, the difference being the height of the tallest defender or midfielder in their side. For teams that at least try and make a game of it, Pep changes our formation to combat the opposition's tactics, quite often several times in the game.
 
Wotspur said:
Pep is a great manager ,
just wonder if he hadn’t had Messi at Barca in a two team league , or gone it the biggest club in Germany , or the wealthiest club in Britain . What might have happened if he’d been at Athletico Madrid, Eintracht Frankfurt or gone to Leeds , would he be considered great .
When he leave you basically he’ll want to succeed in France and Italy , he’d only go to PSG and Juve
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The usual shite.......

Pep has improved every single one of our players,some that were even considered at their peak.....players want to play for him because he's a genius and a trophy machine,there are none better.

He hasn't managed the teams above because of that genius and quality,only the best want him.
 
Wotspur said:
Pep is a great manager ,
just wonder if he hadn’t had Messi at Barca in a two team league , or gone it the biggest club in Germany , or the wealthiest club in Britain . What might have happened if he’d been at Athletico Madrid, Eintracht Frankfurt or gone to Leeds , would he be considered great .
When he leave you basically he’ll want to succeed in France and Italy , he’d only go to PSG and Juve
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Perhaps he should take on a really tough challenge and try to win the mighty Spurs a whooping third league title - after what is it 58 years!
 
Wotspur said:
Pep is a great manager ,
just wonder if he hadn’t had Messi at Barca in a two team league , or gone it the biggest club in Germany , or the wealthiest club in Britain . What might have happened if he’d been at Athletico Madrid, Eintracht Frankfurt or gone to Leeds , would he be considered great .
When he leave you basically he’ll want to succeed in France and Italy , he’d only go to PSG and Juve
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The rags have got more spending power than us, that’s working isn’t it.
 
The ppl who say "ah yes but he hasn't managed a shit team" are just showing their ignorance of what a manager does. Compare another great manager, Brian Clough. He managed the worst team in England, Hartlepools. They finished bottom 6 years running, iirc, and had to apply for re- election. Clough went there and guess what? The no hopers were promoted. Its a whole job; you cant just buy players and wind them up like clockwork toys. See Manoo!
 
Wotspur said:
Pep is a great manager ,
just wonder if he hadn’t had Messi at Barca in a two team league , or gone it the biggest club in Germany , or the wealthiest club in Britain . What might have happened if he’d been at Athletico Madrid, Eintracht Frankfurt or gone to Leeds , would he be considered great .
When he leave you basically he’ll want to succeed in France and Italy , he’d only go to PSG and Juve
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Can Lewis Hamilton or Michael Schumacher be considered great drivers? What might have happened if they'd driven an Austin Allegro?

They didn't drive an Austin Allegro because they are/were the best and the best are recognised as such and subsequently given the best tools, so they can be the best they can be.

In competitive sport the best get the best because they're the best.

And Tony Pulis doesn't.
 
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Wotspur said:
Pep is a great manager ,
just wonder if he hadn’t had Messi at Barca in a two team league , or gone it the biggest club in Germany , or the wealthiest club in Britain . What might have happened if he’d been at Athletico Madrid, Eintracht Frankfurt or gone to Leeds , would he be considered great .
When he leave you basically he’ll want to succeed in France and Italy , he’d only go to PSG and Juve
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He would have been head hunted after his 1st season and then followed the same path he has done.
Some people are meant for the top, simple as that.
 
remember arthur mann said:
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Although tbf, that is a Cantor ;-)
 
The perfect fumble said:
Can Lewis Hamilton or Michael Schumacher be considered great drivers? What might have happened if they'd driven an Austin Allegro?

They didn't drive an Austin Allegro because they are/were the best and the best are recognised as such and subsequently given the best tools, so they can be the best they can be.

In competitive sport the best get the best because they're the best.

And Tony Pulis doesn't.
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Don’t knock the Allegro. My dad had one - square steering wheel and all. God it was embarrassing...
 
Wotspur said:
Pep is a great manager ,
just wonder if he hadn’t had Messi at Barca in a two team league , or gone it the biggest club in Germany , or the wealthiest club in Britain . What might have happened if he’d been at Athletico Madrid, Eintracht Frankfurt or gone to Leeds , would he be considered great .
When he leave you basically he’ll want to succeed in France and Italy , he’d only go to PSG and Juve
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Top managers don't find themselves at top clubs by chance. They earn such placements. If you have managers coaching the likes of Leeds, Spurs or Lyon achieving similar trophy hauls as he, then they deserve to be rated ahead of Pep. But when you have a manager who stays in his comfort zone year in year out who does okay yet having won nothing within the space of time when clubs in dire circumstancees have won trophies, rookie managers have won the league, a low rated club has won the league in a two horse race where he finished third. Can you beat your chest and say that manager deserves to be rated ahead of Pep?

See Pep is not the first or last to manage Bayern or Barca or City. In fact Ancelloti won the league at Bayern but was shown the door the following season. If it was so easy to manage the aformentioned clubs why do the managers in charge of them get sacked ever so easily whilst Pep never gets sacked and these clubs will even have him back in a heartbeat if it were possible. Pochettino is not used to the kind of pressure that comes with managing a club of that stature or a club with bigger expectations where managers can get the boot halfway into their first season. All he needs to do to secure his seat for the next two seasons is finish within top 4. Who cannot do that?

I no longer take you guys seriously since you guys (english media) began to float the line that Sean Dyche deserved manager of the year ahead of Pep last two seasons but I do hope that you have been properly schooled now.
 
nmc said:
Don’t knock the Allegro. My dad had one - square steering wheel and all. God it was embarrassing...
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Austin Allegro was my first car , decking brilliant it was , a1.1 I couldn’t speed and I never got stopped no matter what I did .....down in Gosport Shante some bloke has a Police car , that is an Allegro , can you believe it , I remember seeing em as police cars
 
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