Isco

[Broady_pie1505]

There are a bunch of immature, clueless, aggressive, mard arse, disrespectful and stupid posters in this thread who quite evidently haven't got a scooby about what they're talking about.

These posters just sulk and woman because they don't get what they want. They moan because they have lost sight of who we are and where we came from. They think just because our owner is rich, and because we have won a single league title and FA Cup that we have the right to buy who we want, that everyone should just want to come here and other clubs should bow down and sell us who we want to buy. These fans are being rags.

Txiki and Ferran are consummate professionals, and they are excellent at what they do. This does not make them messiahs. There is one quite colossal difference between their roles at Barca and City and that is that they now have to work at a club with a far smaller global reputation and less appeal than what they had behind them at Barca. They've been here less than a year and they are already making huge strides of progress, but if you honestly expect them to be able to persuade every great talent to come here then you are foolish at this stage, because they have far less to sell to these players than the likes of Real Madrid. Zidane can pick up a phone and sell 70 years of illustrious Madrid history, all the Champions Leagues, La Ligas and world class players that have been there (Himself, Figo, Beckham, the Ronaldos, Casillas, Di Stefano, Puskas, Raul etc. etc. etc.).

He can sell Madrid as the greatest club in the world, in the capital of the lad's home country and the dream club of at least 50% of every Spanish youngster. Txiki and Ferran have a club that at best has a tiny amount of that kind of history in comparison. We are a great club and we've had some success but when you're trying to sell this to foreign players it is nothing sadly in comparison to Real Madrid, very few clubs can stand up to that stature.

We tried our best and he was interested, but it seems at this stage and it's a perfectly fair conclusion that Madrid have more to offer him, at least on the surface, and it seems Zidane has done a superb job of selling him their club. That's not to say Txiki didn't either, because for Isco to even admit interest is enough to say we did a good selling job, the fact is at the moment Txiki has nowhere near as much behind him to sell at City as Zidane has at Madrid, and Txiki isn't the only person great at his job. This is Zidane you're talking about, a legendary attacking midfielder one that Isco can only dream of emulating, a legend. All the hard work that Txiki and Ferran have already done reshaping the club on and off the pitch is designed to put us on a par within 5 years within Real Madrid in everything except long term trophy cabinet, but that is something that will pale into insignificance once we can demonstrate we can compete at their level.

So to these frankly imbeciles blabbering on about how we've failed and moaning your arses off why not shut the fuck up, grow up, engage your brain and understand where we are at, what we're trying to do and where we are compared to the elite clubs in Europe. We're not there yet, and it's nothing to be ashamed about and it's certainly not a failure.

this really is for me the post of this thread,excellent JMW.

agree with some of that mate but sounds a little defeatist to me, we are aware of where we cam from and what we are trying to do but there is nothing wrong in people being frustrated by all this, it shows ambition, not the desire to simply roll the red carpet out to the "galacticos" just because we are little old city. gone are those days and that is what Txiki etc have been brought in for and it has failed on this occasion, so just let people sound off and get rid of the feeling of disappointment we all have at losing out on Isco.

it wont change the fact we will all be there first game of the season side by side cheering on the mighty blues!!

 

[remember arthur mann]

So have we definitely lost this player to Madrid ?

Where is the confirmation ?

I would say the confirmation is on our official site
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/What-the...the-media-says-about-Manchester-City-25-June?

Notice the lack of a "?" at the end of the headline "Isco Bid Looks Doomed" - more of a statement.

Everyone knows at City it's a lost cause. While losing out to the likes of Madrid is not surprising, the way we keep losing our top targets is not good.

I starting to think we won't sign a real marquee player for sometime!

This is What the papers say not Man City.

 

[Super David Silva 21]

Seems Zidane was the clincher then, i'm giving this one up now, was fun the last few days but i'm putting this one behind me now.

Still think we'll get someone from Real though in order for Isco to go in there.

 

[waspish]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-city-give-up-on-tempting-isco-away-from-real-madrid-move-8672161.html

By IAN HERBERT
Monday 24 June 2013
Manchester City were resigned last night to their new manager Manuel Pellegrini failing in his first task as manager – persuading his protégé Isco to sign for the club.
The club are phlegmatic about the 21-year-old's apparent decision to opt for Real Madrid, despite the relationship he had developed with Pellegrini – his "footballing father"– who officially began work as Roberto Mancini's successor yesterday.
Since the pursuit of Isco was a by-product of the club turning to 59-year-old Pellegrini as manager, it is understood that director of football Txiki Begiristain will not go back into the market for an alternative purchase. Pellegrini has new signings Jesus Navas and Fernandinho at his disposal and it has been indicated that the latter was signed at the new manager's behest. If the club's post-season tour of the United States was anything to go by, Samir Nasri may also become a new player with Mancini out of the club.
Isco left little to the imagination when the Malaga midfielder said yesterday that "Madrid excite me. They are one of the best teams in the world," with a possible £25m deal imminent. City also appear to have all but given up on signing Napoli's Edinson Cavani, but because he was very much a Mancini target over a number of seasons, that is not seen as a disaster. Pellegrini is understood to be less convinced about signing the Uruguayan. Sergio Aguero put his signature to a new contract earlier this month and with some prospect that Carlos Tevez and Edin Dzeko will stay into the new era, City appear to feel relaxed about their strikeforce.
Pellegrini publicly discussed Navas and Fernandinho for the first time yesterday, telling the club's in-house media: "Jesus is a player I know well from La Liga. He is quick, has excellent technique and City fans will enjoy watching him. He will provide a variety of attacking options for us and can also score goals as well as create them."
He said he had made Fernandinho one of his top priorities. "He has impressed me on a number of occasions over the past few years and is another player I've taken a keen interest in. He is an experienced international who will further strengthen our midfield and I think he will be well suited to the Premier League. He is a superb athlete with a wide range of passing, can score goals and most importantly, can quickly turn defence into attack."

 

[kp789]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-city-give-up-on-tempting-isco-away-from-real-madrid-move-8672161.html

The opening of that article is absolute drivel.

Manchester City were resigned last night to their new manager Manuel Pellegrini failing in his first task as manager – persuading his protégé Isco to sign for the club.

How is that Pellegrini's fault? 'failing'? Give over!

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

There are a bunch of immature, clueless, aggressive, mard arse, disrespectful and stupid posters in this thread who quite evidently haven't got a scooby about what they're talking about.

These posters just sulk and woman because they don't get what they want. They moan because they have lost sight of who we are and where we came from. They think just because our owner is rich, and because we have won a single league title and FA Cup that we have the right to buy who we want, that everyone should just want to come here and other clubs should bow down and sell us who we want to buy. These fans are being rags.

Txiki and Ferran are consummate professionals, and they are excellent at what they do. This does not make them messiahs. There is one quite colossal difference between their roles at Barca and City and that is that they now have to work at a club with a far smaller global reputation and less appeal than what they had behind them at Barca. They've been here less than a year and they are already making huge strides of progress, but if you honestly expect them to be able to persuade every great talent to come here then you are foolish at this stage, because they have far less to sell to these players than the likes of Real Madrid. Zidane can pick up a phone and sell 70 years of illustrious Madrid history, all the Champions Leagues, La Ligas and world class players that have been there (Himself, Figo, Beckham, the Ronaldos, Casillas, Di Stefano, Puskas, Raul etc. etc. etc.).

He can sell Madrid as the greatest club in the world, in the capital of the lad's home country and the dream club of at least 50% of every Spanish youngster. Txiki and Ferran have a club that at best has a tiny amount of that kind of history in comparison. We are a great club and we've had some success but when you're trying to sell this to foreign players it is nothing sadly in comparison to Real Madrid, very few clubs can stand up to that stature.

We tried our best and he was interested, but it seems at this stage and it's a perfectly fair conclusion that Madrid have more to offer him, at least on the surface, and it seems Zidane has done a superb job of selling him their club. That's not to say Txiki didn't either, because for Isco to even admit interest is enough to say we did a good selling job, the fact is at the moment Txiki has nowhere near as much behind him to sell at City as Zidane has at Madrid, and Txiki isn't the only person great at his job. This is Zidane you're talking about, a legendary attacking midfielder one that Isco can only dream of emulating, a legend. All the hard work that Txiki and Ferran have already done reshaping the club on and off the pitch is designed to put us on a par within 5 years within Real Madrid in everything except long term trophy cabinet, but that is something that will pale into insignificance once we can demonstrate we can compete at their level.

So to these frankly imbeciles blabbering on about how we've failed and moaning your arses off why not shut the fuck up, grow up, engage your brain and understand where we are at, what we're trying to do and where we are compared to the elite clubs in Europe. We're not there yet, and it's nothing to be ashamed about and it's certainly not a failure.

this really is for me the post of this thread,excellent JMW.

It was until I saw this

You can't argue about his status and global appeal, even if we can agree about his limited ability.

 

[NorthernBoy]

Isco Would Be Lovely To Watch No Doubt, But In The Bigger Picture We Currently Have In Place A Squad, A Manager, And A Structure More Than Capable Of Winning The Premier League And Competing At The Highest Level In All Major Competitions. Even More Exciting Is The Prospect Of The Club Ever Growing Season After Season, We Now Have A Blueprint To Ensure We Are The Greatest. Next Season Will Be Thrilling, It Seems We Will See At Least One New Signing Before The Season Starts And I Believe We Will Witness The Best Football We've Seen At The Etihad.
Times Are Changing, Try Not To Get Hung Up Or Frustrated When We Don't Capture The Signatures Of Certain Players, It Could Be Worse, You Could Have Been Unfortunate And Born Into A Family Supporting Someone Else.

 

[gio's side step]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-city-give-up-on-tempting-isco-away-from-real-madrid-move-8672161.html

By IAN HERBERT
Monday 24 June 2013
Manchester City were resigned last night to their new manager Manuel Pellegrini failing in his first task as manager – persuading his protégé Isco to sign for the club.
The club are phlegmatic about the 21-year-old's apparent decision to opt for Real Madrid, despite the relationship he had developed with Pellegrini – his "footballing father"– who officially began work as Roberto Mancini's successor yesterday.
Since the pursuit of Isco was a by-product of the club turning to 59-year-old Pellegrini as manager, it is understood that director of football Txiki Begiristain will not go back into the market for an alternative purchase. Pellegrini has new signings Jesus Navas and Fernandinho at his disposal and it has been indicated that the latter was signed at the new manager's behest. If the club's post-season tour of the United States was anything to go by, Samir Nasri may also become a new player with Mancini out of the club.
Isco left little to the imagination when the Malaga midfielder said yesterday that "Madrid excite me. They are one of the best teams in the world," with a possible £25m deal imminent. City also appear to have all but given up on signing Napoli's Edinson Cavani, but because he was very much a Mancini target over a number of seasons, that is not seen as a disaster. Pellegrini is understood to be less convinced about signing the Uruguayan. Sergio Aguero put his signature to a new contract earlier this month and with some prospect that Carlos Tevez and Edin Dzeko will stay into the new era, City appear to feel relaxed about their strikeforce.
Pellegrini publicly discussed Navas and Fernandinho for the first time yesterday, telling the club's in-house media: "Jesus is a player I know well from La Liga. He is quick, has excellent technique and City fans will enjoy watching him. He will provide a variety of attacking options for us and can also score goals as well as create them."
He said he had made Fernandinho one of his top priorities. "He has impressed me on a number of occasions over the past few years and is another player I've taken a keen interest in. He is an experienced international who will further strengthen our midfield and I think he will be well suited to the Premier League. He is a superb athlete with a wide range of passing, can score goals and most importantly, can quickly turn defence into attack."

Think this pretty much sums up where we are

 

[oakiecokie]

There are a bunch of immature, clueless, aggressive, mard arse, disrespectful and stupid posters in this thread who quite evidently haven't got a scooby about what they're talking about.

These posters just sulk and woman because they don't get what they want. They moan because they have lost sight of who we are and where we came from. They think just because our owner is rich, and because we have won a single league title and FA Cup that we have the right to buy who we want, that everyone should just want to come here and other clubs should bow down and sell us who we want to buy. These fans are being rags.

Txiki and Ferran are consummate professionals, and they are excellent at what they do. This does not make them messiahs. There is one quite colossal difference between their roles at Barca and City and that is that they now have to work at a club with a far smaller global reputation and less appeal than what they had behind them at Barca. They've been here less than a year and they are already making huge strides of progress, but if you honestly expect them to be able to persuade every great talent to come here then you are foolish at this stage, because they have far less to sell to these players than the likes of Real Madrid. Zidane can pick up a phone and sell 70 years of illustrious Madrid history, all the Champions Leagues, La Ligas and world class players that have been there (Himself, Figo, Beckham, the Ronaldos, Casillas, Di Stefano, Puskas, Raul etc. etc. etc.).

He can sell Madrid as the greatest club in the world, in the capital of the lad's home country and the dream club of at least 50% of every Spanish youngster. Txiki and Ferran have a club that at best has a tiny amount of that kind of history in comparison. We are a great club and we've had some success but when you're trying to sell this to foreign players it is nothing sadly in comparison to Real Madrid, very few clubs can stand up to that stature.

We tried our best and he was interested, but it seems at this stage and it's a perfectly fair conclusion that Madrid have more to offer him, at least on the surface, and it seems Zidane has done a superb job of selling him their club. That's not to say Txiki didn't either, because for Isco to even admit interest is enough to say we did a good selling job, the fact is at the moment Txiki has nowhere near as much behind him to sell at City as Zidane has at Madrid, and Txiki isn't the only person great at his job. This is Zidane you're talking about, a legendary attacking midfielder one that Isco can only dream of emulating, a legend. All the hard work that Txiki and Ferran have already done reshaping the club on and off the pitch is designed to put us on a par within 5 years within Real Madrid in everything except long term trophy cabinet, but that is something that will pale into insignificance once we can demonstrate we can compete at their level.

So to these frankly imbeciles blabbering on about how we've failed and moaning your arses off why not shut the fuck up, grow up, engage your brain and understand where we are at, what we're trying to do and where we are compared to the elite clubs in Europe. We're not there yet, and it's nothing to be ashamed about and it's certainly not a failure.

Brilliantly put JMW !!! The post of this fucking thread without a shadow of doubt !!!!

 

[bluetrue]

Isco Would Be Lovely To Watch No Doubt, But In The Bigger Picture We Currently Have In Place A Squad, A Manager, And A Structure More Than Capable Of Winning The Premier League And Competing At The Highest Level In All Major Competitions. Even More Exciting Is The Prospect Of The Club Ever Growing Season After Season, We Now Have A Blueprint To Ensure We Are The Greatest. Next Season Will Be Thrilling, It Seems We Will See At Least One New Signing Before The Season Starts And I Believe We Will Witness The Best Football We've Seen At The Etihad.
Times Are Changing, Try Not To Get Hung Up Or Frustrated When We Don't Capture The Signatures Of Certain Players, It Could Be Worse, You Could Have Been Unfortunate And Born Into A Family Supporting Someone Else.

It must be incredibly time-consuming and tedious to type a capital letter at the beginning of every word.