Isco

grunge said:
Forzacitizens said:
I may be being pessimist but if we only sign Fernandinho and Navas I don't see much improvement next season.

? Pace, lots of pace and width. the main thing we were lacking last year so I do see a major improvment, at least in the options available to the manager.

although, we reportedly offered 45m for Carvani and 25m for Isco so thats £70m we have to spend so I cant see it just being Navas and Fernandinho.

But are our next targets any better than Nasri, Edin or Tevez, the club might not think they are and with FFP they might not bother spending any money on the those areas this summer and stick with what we've got. Spend for the sake of spending so to say.
 
allan harper said:
grunge said:
Forzacitizens said:
I may be being pessimist but if we only sign Fernandinho and Navas I don't see much improvement next season.

? Pace, lots of pace and width. the main thing we were lacking last year so I do see a major improvment, at least in the options available to the manager.

although, we reportedly offered 45m for Carvani and 25m for Isco so thats £70m we have to spend so I cant see it just being Navas and Fernandinho.

But are our next targets any better than Nasri, Edin or Tevez, the club might not think they are and with FFP they might not bother spending any money on the those areas this summer and stick with what we've got. Spend for the sake of spending so to say.

this is my point
 
Broady_pie1505 said:
andrewmswift said:
why are we assuming that we won't make any more signings—is it august 25 or june 25 ffs?

because the OS has said Txiki isn't looking for a replacement signing if Isco goes to madrid as expected, people have taken that to mean no more signings which, of course, is wrong.


From the paper talk section on the OS which just selects stories from various papers. People believing that the club have suggested to put the story on us losing out on Isco. All speculation. Surprisingly!
 
Ray78 said:
M24 Citizen said:
Broady_pie1505 said:
Ancellotti confirmed as real madrid manager, thats why nothing mentioned re isco, think that will be the next appointment, close thread?

NO! I won't let go until it's official :(

You are on your own on this one.

Just you wait! Preswitch Blue or BlibblyBlue (whatever his username is) or Tolmie will come along soon with news they have been told we have put in a last minute bid to gazump Madrid's and Pellegrini has won over Isco. Just you wait.
 
<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/FootieWriter/status/348787614826000384" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/FootieWriter/status ... 4826000384</a>

I knew the hunt was over as soon as I read this a few days ago. I trust this guy.
 
woolleyback blue said:
The mega flapping on this forum has been unbelievable. If we're being honest its more about being beaten to a player by Real than the actual player. The same sort of thing is going on over Cavani and Thiago.

Basic facts.

Isco is a good player with potential but not signing him isn't going mean we can't win the PL and progress in the CL. Signing him won't guarantee the PL title.

Cavani is a top striker but even with him up front and a team built round him Napoli didn't win their title or the CL. If he goes to Chelsea then some people are behaving as if he'll win the PL for them. Chelski have more problems than just getting a decent striker.

Thiago is another Isco, a good player with potential but again if the rags sign him its not a guarantee they will win the PL. The effect of el bacon retiring and gollum taking over will affect them more than you think.


We have a very good squad of players, signing of the season in Pellegrini and the potential to play exciting attacking football that will scare the pants off the PL. Sit back, chill out and enjoy!!

bang on
 
allan harper said:
grunge said:
Forzacitizens said:
I may be being pessimist but if we only sign Fernandinho and Navas I don't see much improvement next season.

? Pace, lots of pace and width. the main thing we were lacking last year so I do see a major improvment, at least in the options available to the manager.

although, we reportedly offered 45m for Carvani and 25m for Isco so thats £70m we have to spend so I cant see it just being Navas and Fernandinho.

But are our next targets any better than Nasri, Edin or Tevez, the club might not think they are and with FFP they might not bother spending any money on the those areas this summer and stick with what we've got. Spend for the sake of spending so to say.

moving high wage earners off the books and replacing with our new wage structure is a big plus, even if the talent is exactly the same (and i expect it to be greater, esp. tevez who is not the player he was three years ago) we come out better
 
Broady_pie1505 said:
woolleyback blue said:
The mega flapping on this forum has been unbelievable. If we're being honest its more about being beaten to a player by Real than the actual player. The same sort of thing is going on over Cavani and Thiago.

Basic facts.

Isco is a good player with potential but not signing him isn't going mean we can't win the PL and progress in the CL. Signing him won't guarantee the PL title.

Cavani is a top striker but even with him up front and a team built round him Napoli didn't win their title or the CL. If he goes to Chelsea then some people are behaving as if he'll win the PL for them. Chelski have more problems than just getting a decent striker.

Thiago is another Isco, a good player with potential but again if the rags sign him its not a guarantee they will win the PL. The effect of el bacon retiring and gollum taking over will affect them more than you think.


We have a very good squad of players, signing of the season in Pellegrini and the potential to play exciting attacking football that will scare the pants off the PL. Sit back, chill out and enjoy!!

bang on

Waaaaay too much sense spoken to be in this thread
 
Broady_pie1505 said:
andrewmswift said:
why are we assuming that we won't make any more signings—is it august 25 or june 25 ffs?

because the OS has said Txiki isn't looking for a replacement signing if Isco goes to madrid as expected, people have taken that to mean no more signings which, of course, is wrong.

The OS didn`t say that, The Independent said it.

It`s only in the "What The Media Says" page.
 
allan harper said:
grunge said:
Forzacitizens said:
I may be being pessimist but if we only sign Fernandinho and Navas I don't see much improvement next season.

? Pace, lots of pace and width. the main thing we were lacking last year so I do see a major improvment, at least in the options available to the manager.

although, we reportedly offered 45m for Carvani and 25m for Isco so thats £70m we have to spend so I cant see it just being Navas and Fernandinho.

But are our next targets any better than Nasri, Edin or Tevez, the club might not think they are and with FFP they might not bother spending any money on the those areas this summer and stick with what we've got. Spend for the sake of spending so to say.

Totally agree, we may "have" the money to spend but if we can get away without spending it then great.

I cant see Dzeko leaving now we have players that will suit him, if we use him well I feel he'll get a boat load of goals for us. But if we do sell Tevez then we do need to get another striker in thats for sure.

Nasri is somethig of an enigma to me at the moment, im curious as to whether his shite performances were manager related, can Pelle get more out of him. Only time will tell I guess.
 
M24 Citizen said:
Ray78 said:
M24 Citizen said:
NO! I won't let go until it's official :(

You are on your own on this one.

Just you wait! Preswitch Blue or BlibblyBlue (whatever his username is) or Tolmie will come along soon with news they have been told we have put in a last minute bid to gazump Madrid's and Pellegrini has won over Isco. Just you wait.

Fair enough but this one is loaded in Real Madrid's favour imho.
 
Floptastic7 said:
Broady_pie1505 said:
woolleyback blue said:
The mega flapping on this forum has been unbelievable. If we're being honest its more about being beaten to a player by Real than the actual player. The same sort of thing is going on over Cavani and Thiago.

Basic facts.

Isco is a good player with potential but not signing him isn't going mean we can't win the PL and progress in the CL. Signing him won't guarantee the PL title.

Cavani is a top striker but even with him up front and a team built round him Napoli didn't win their title or the CL. If he goes to Chelsea then some people are behaving as if he'll win the PL for them. Chelski have more problems than just getting a decent striker.

Thiago is another Isco, a good player with potential but again if the rags sign him its not a guarantee they will win the PL. The effect of el bacon retiring and gollum taking over will affect them more than you think.


We have a very good squad of players, signing of the season in Pellegrini and the potential to play exciting attacking football that will scare the pants off the PL. Sit back, chill out and enjoy!!

bang on

Waaaaay too much sense spoken to be in this thread
It's not sense. Our squad has deficiencies behind the starters. It will come back on us if we sit still.
 
whipper said:
Broady_pie1505 said:
andrewmswift said:
why are we assuming that we won't make any more signings—is it august 25 or june 25 ffs?

because the OS has said Txiki isn't looking for a replacement signing if Isco goes to madrid as expected, people have taken that to mean no more signings which, of course, is wrong.

The OS didn`t say that, The Independent said it.

It`s only in the "What The Media Says" page.

indeed, apologies I stand corrected, but people have still taken it that way i think
 
Forzacitizens said:
problem is we'll be labelled as missing out on our top targets again..

Get our Champions League form sorted then we can have a bit more bargaining power when it comes to the top talent.
 
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'
 

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