Islamophobia in the Conservative Party

[blueonblue]

Or from the leftie playbook,

Refuse to acknowledge the glaring clash between an ideology stuck in the stone age that is completely incapable of integration and "Western values" of tolerance towards others while hiding behind a religion, seize upon a throwaway descriptive that at worst could be said to be mocking (All religions should be open to ridicule, when they get to be taken seriously people usually end up dying ) and play it up as the crime of the century, then bring out the super duper branding word of the day.

Boris said she looks like a letter box because she looks like a letter box in that get up, its not objectifying her (Though calling every bugger racist may well be ;0) ) its just a descriptive, its not calling for any kind of action violent or otherwise, and if it causes offence to some then so be it, you can be offended all you want.

 

[Mike D]

Or from the leftie playbook,

Refuse to acknowledge the glaring clash between an ideology stuck in the stone age that is completely incapable of integration and "Western values" of tolerance towards others while hiding behind a religion, seize upon a throwaway descriptive that at worst could be said to be mocking (All religions should be open to ridicule, when they get to be taken seriously people usually end up dying ) and play it up as the crime of the century, then bring out the super duper branding word of the day.

Boris said she looks like a letter box because she looks like a letter box in that get up, its not objectifying her (Though calling every bugger racist may well be ;0) ) its just a descriptive, its not calling for any kind of action violent or otherwise, and if it causes offence to some then so be it, you can be offended all you want.

Maybe back in the day or in the circles that you mix in? But leading on from that when you normalise comments that Boris made then its leads to comments like this “Come on Boris, you had the bottle to start getting rid of these bloody Muslims, just like Enoch [Powell] wanted to rid us of all yer bloody c**ns.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-comments-burqa-row-anti-muslim-a8498021.html

What ever you think about the article he written it wasn't dog whistle politics it was a raging fog horn telling racists to crawl from out of your stones its safe now. It's got nothing to do with some leftie playbook as you call its about having mutual respect for a few thousand people that wear a niqab. And as for throwing this crap right out the far right knuckle draggers play book on ideology then perhaps you need to look a bit further than Tommy Robinson groups advice.

 

[blueonblue]

Maybe back in the day or in the circles that you mix in? But leading on from that when you normalise comments that Boris made then its leads to comments like this “Come on Boris, you had the bottle to start getting rid of these bloody Muslims, just like Enoch [Powell] wanted to rid us of all yer bloody c**ns.”

Give your head a wobble, thats akin to linking taking an aspirin to ending up on heroin, it was a throw away descriptive of someone walking about in a silly costume, that it was done in the name of a religion does not make it the crime of the century (Never heard nuns described as penguins ?).

What ever you think about the article he written it wasn't dog whistle politics it was a raging fog horn telling racists to crawl from out of your stones its safe now. It's got nothing to do with some leftie playbook as you call its about having mutual respect for a few thousand people that wear a niqab. And as for throwing this crap right out the far right knuckle draggers play book on ideology then perhaps you need to look a bit further than Tommy Robinson groups advice.

Please explain what race Muslims are, far as I know they come in many variations and nationalities, only the most extreme of which insist on wearing that get up (They are also the most intolerant towards western values) so no, they dont deserve any more respect than anyone else.

And of course you bring out the buzz words of racist and far right, never mind that thousands of kids got abused because of fear of those brandings being thrown about indiscriminately, but as usual the left went so far that its now defined as anyone who disagrees with their barm pot ideas of multiculturalism, especially when it includes a culture that will not integrate or show tolerance.

 

[Mike D]

Give your head a wobble, thats akin to linking taking an aspirin to ending up on heroin, it was a throw away descriptive of someone walking about in a silly costume, that it was done in the name of a religion does not make it the crime of the century (Never heard nuns described as penguins ?).

Are you oblivious to the fact that Boris met with Steve Bannon a man on a mission to strengthen a far right movement across Europe. A man who told the far right to wear their islamophobia badge with pride. As I said it may be a throw away comment in your circle of friends but the meeting with Bannon and the reaction proves the article got what was intended reaction from the far right.

Please explain what race Muslims are, far as I know they come in many variations and nationalities, only the most extreme of which insist on wearing that get up (They are also the most intolerant towards western values) so no, they dont deserve any more respect than anyone else.

And of course you bring out the buzz words of racist and far right, never mind that thousands of kids got abused because of fear of those brandings being thrown about indiscriminately, but as usual the left went so far that its now defined as anyone who disagrees with their barm pot ideas of multiculturalism, especially when it includes a culture that will not integrate or show tolerance.

I know that talking to some far right people (like yourself evidently) you don't like the r word its taboo for them. The minute you drop that label it prevokes a reaction and just to clarify I never called your a racist. As for those stats on grooming gangs being mainly here's an interesting take on the limitations of those findings https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/grooming-gangs-quilliam-the-myth-of-the-84-percent.558382/

Those barm pot ideas of integration are happening all over the western world if you don't want to evolve and remain in your cave perhaps you should consider immigration I believe North Korea is quite nice. Finally on your culture of non of integration and tolerance maybe you need to have a long hard look yourself before you start casting dispersions on others.

 

[blueonblue]

Do you even know what "Far right" is ?, before you brand people go and look it up.
As for the word "Racist" its the misuse I have a problem with, in the real world most people (Including me) are live an let live, I dont give a flying f*ck what race anyone is I take as I find.
So while your free to criticise say politicians it is of course racist if it happens to be Abbott or Khan, you may have voted brexit because of the shear numbers of migration in a short time causing major problems in jobs,housing,schools and hospital services, but no, its just racist, in short the word has been hijacked to include anything that involves any other race without motivation or context being considered.

No, I said "Their barmpot ideas of multiculturalism", that being other cultures being promoted as good while anything British had to give way (Social engineering for political means).
Integration is a good thing and has happened in this and other countries for generations. However, When there is a section of a culture that will not integrate or accept the host countries values there is a problem, when any criticism is levelled at their behaviour out comes the super duper magic word rather than address or expose that problem.

What has been happening in the last few years is no less than suppression of free speech, you can not have free speech without the risk of offending someone, and there are now attempts to criminalise offending anyone, Robinson is in this category (Count duckula is another), you may not like the bloke or his message, but unless he advocates violence he should be free to air his views.

As for the grooming gangs you will not get a more balanced view than Andrew Norfolk of the Times, a well educated man as far away from your mental picture of a right wing nut job.

 

[Ric]

it was a throw away descriptive of someone walking about in a silly costume

I suspect it was anything but a throwaway description. Johnson is far more calculated than that. He’s not the loveable buffoon some on the right would have you believe. Sadly there are evidently plenty of people ready to lap up this type of rhetoric though.

 

[blueonblue]

Except he`s not just a lovable buffoon is he, very well educated at the best schools in the country, a journalist and published historian as well as a politician, well spoken and a bit of a ladies man as well as being one of the chaps, but lets go with your theory that it was calculated, so of course the aim was to get the " Uneducated racist fools on board" as you put it, thats you admitting that there is a big enough section of society for borris to notice and play up to.

A politician rarely inspires but more often mimics the public so there is a real problem, its no good shouting out the latest buzz word to justify suppression of the discussions that should have been had years ago, a section of a British community has acted appallingly for a number of years with little or no sanction, thats it, thats a fact, its not racist or bigoted to be more than a little pissed off that an invited guest would behave in this manner, and the authorities to allow it.

Even if Borris did mean to mock, so what, its the kind of thing you think when something looks so f*cking ridiculous, to say it may be offensive to those who want to be offended, but its a world away from a bugle call for the Hitler youth you try and make it out to be.

 

[Ricster]

Or from the leftie playbook,

Refuse to acknowledge the glaring clash between an ideology stuck in the stone age that is completely incapable of integration and "Western values" of tolerance towards others while hiding behind a religion, seize upon a throwaway descriptive that at worst could be said to be mocking (All religions should be open to ridicule, when they get to be taken seriously people usually end up dying ) and play it up as the crime of the century, then bring out the super duper branding word of the day.

Boris said she looks like a letter box because she looks like a letter box in that get up, its not objectifying her (Though calling every bugger racist may well be ;0) ) its just a descriptive, its not calling for any kind of action violent or otherwise, and if it causes offence to some then so be it, you can be offended all you want.

"Bank Robbing Letterbox"

 

[Ricster]

Even if Borris did mean to mock, so what, its the kind of thing you think when something looks so f*cking ridiculous

No it isnt!

 

[blueonblue]

No it isnt!

So what do you think it looks like then ?.