It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back...

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[smeeagain]

Robert Tressell > Quotes > Quotable Quote
“Poverty is not caused by men and women getting married; it's not caused by machinery; it's not caused by "over-production"; it's not caused by drink or laziness; and it's not caused by "over-population". It's caused by Private Monopoly. That is the present system. They have monopolized everything that it is possible to monopolize; they have got the whole earth, the minerals in the earth and the streams that water the earth. The only reason they have not monopolized the daylight and the air is that it is not possible to do it. If it were possible to construct huge gasometers and to draw together and compress within them the whole of the atmosphere, it would have been done long ago, and we should have been compelled to work for them in order to get money to buy air to breathe. And if that seemingly impossible thing were accomplished tomorrow, you would see thousands of people dying for want of air - or of the money to buy it - even as now thousands are dying for want of the other necessities of life. You would see people going about gasping for breath, and telling each other that the likes of them could not expect to have air to breathe unless the had the money to pay for it. Most of you here, for instance, would think and say so. Even as you think at present that it's right for so few people to own the Earth, the Minerals and the Water, which are all just as necessary as is the air. In exactly the same spirit as you now say: "It's Their Land," "It's Their Water," "It's Their Coal," "It's Their Iron," so you would say "It's Their Air," "These are their gasometers, and what right have the likes of us to expect them to allow us to breathe for nothing?" And even while he is doing this the air monopolist will be preaching sermons on the Brotherhood of Man; he will be dispensing advice on "Christian Duty" in the Sunday magazines; he will give utterance to numerous more or less moral maxims for the guidance of the young. And meantime, all around, people will be dying for want of some of the air that he will have bottled up in his gasometers. And when you are all dragging out a miserable existence, gasping for breath or dying for want of air, if one of your number suggests smashing a hole in the side of one of th gasometers, you will all fall upon him in the name of law and order, and after doing your best to tear him limb from limb, you'll drag him, covered with blood, in triumph to the nearest Police Station and deliver him up to "justice" in the hope of being given a few half-pounds of air for your trouble.”

 

[Bigga]

What would trigger one? it's hard to say nowadays.
Marshal law maybe, if a government tried to shut down our freedom of movement and we had curfews and ID cards to track us?Prohibition?? as a nation of pissheads would we take a total ban on the stuff?
A lack of basic services, if we suddenly had our water, electricity and peteol rationed and/or cut off on purpose.
political discord - what if do end up with a perpetual tory state, will we eventually crack as they fuck us over.

Obviously in chorlton the triggers are less dramatic, a lack of avacardos or kale could start a food riot.

Because there is just enough stick and just enough carrot.

... is the correct answer...

 

[smeeagain]

Robert Tressell > Quotes > Quotable Quote
“Poverty is not caused by men and women getting married; it's not caused by machinery; it's not caused by "over-production"; it's not caused by drink or laziness; and it's not caused by "over-population". It's caused by Private Monopoly. That is the present system. They have monopolized everything that it is possible to monopolize; they have got the whole earth, the minerals in the earth and the streams that water the earth. The only reason they have not monopolized the daylight and the air is that it is not possible to do it. If it were possible to construct huge gasometers and to draw together and compress within them the whole of the atmosphere, it would have been done long ago, and we should have been compelled to work for them in order to get money to buy air to breathe. And if that seemingly impossible thing were accomplished tomorrow, you would see thousands of people dying for want of air - or of the money to buy it - even as now thousands are dying for want of the other necessities of life. You would see people going about gasping for breath, and telling each other that the likes of them could not expect to have air to breathe unless the had the money to pay for it. Most of you here, for instance, would think and say so. Even as you think at present that it's right for so few people to own the Earth, the Minerals and the Water, which are all just as necessary as is the air. In exactly the same spirit as you now say: "It's Their Land," "It's Their Water," "It's Their Coal," "It's Their Iron," so you would say "It's Their Air," "These are their gasometers, and what right have the likes of us to expect them to allow us to breathe for nothing?" And even while he is doing this the air monopolist will be preaching sermons on the Brotherhood of Man; he will be dispensing advice on "Christian Duty" in the Sunday magazines; he will give utterance to numerous more or less moral maxims for the guidance of the young. And meantime, all around, people will be dying for want of some of the air that he will have bottled up in his gasometers. And when you are all dragging out a miserable existence, gasping for breath or dying for want of air, if one of your number suggests smashing a hole in the side of one of th gasometers, you will all fall upon him in the name of law and order, and after doing your best to tear him limb from limb, you'll drag him, covered with blood, in triumph to the nearest Police Station and deliver him up to "justice" in the hope of being given a few half-pounds of air for your trouble.”

wish i,d penned this !

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Robert Tressell > Quotes > Quotable Quote
“Poverty is not caused by men and women getting married; it's not caused by machinery; it's not caused by "over-production"; it's not caused by drink or laziness; and it's not caused by "over-population". It's caused by Private Monopoly. That is the present system. They have monopolized everything that it is possible to monopolize; they have got the whole earth, the minerals in the earth and the streams that water the earth. The only reason they have not monopolized the daylight and the air is that it is not possible to do it. If it were possible to construct huge gasometers and to draw together and compress within them the whole of the atmosphere, it would have been done long ago, and we should have been compelled to work for them in order to get money to buy air to breathe. And if that seemingly impossible thing were accomplished tomorrow, you would see thousands of people dying for want of air - or of the money to buy it - even as now thousands are dying for want of the other necessities of life. You would see people going about gasping for breath, and telling each other that the likes of them could not expect to have air to breathe unless the had the money to pay for it. Most of you here, for instance, would think and say so. Even as you think at present that it's right for so few people to own the Earth, the Minerals and the Water, which are all just as necessary as is the air. In exactly the same spirit as you now say: "It's Their Land," "It's Their Water," "It's Their Coal," "It's Their Iron," so you would say "It's Their Air," "These are their gasometers, and what right have the likes of us to expect them to allow us to breathe for nothing?" And even while he is doing this the air monopolist will be preaching sermons on the Brotherhood of Man; he will be dispensing advice on "Christian Duty" in the Sunday magazines; he will give utterance to numerous more or less moral maxims for the guidance of the young. And meantime, all around, people will be dying for want of some of the air that he will have bottled up in his gasometers. And when you are all dragging out a miserable existence, gasping for breath or dying for want of air, if one of your number suggests smashing a hole in the side of one of th gasometers, you will all fall upon him in the name of law and order, and after doing your best to tear him limb from limb, you'll drag him, covered with blood, in triumph to the nearest Police Station and deliver him up to "justice" in the hope of being given a few half-pounds of air for your trouble.”

A quote from over a century ago doesn't cast any meaningful light on this topic, not least because since it was made there hasn't been a whiff of revolution in this country, principally because living standards have hugely and increasingly improved in that time. The quote also predates widespread social security and free at the point of use healthcare, which renders much of its content to be anachronistic and anomalous in the context of modern society.

 

[SWP's back]

Vote Tory if you want Pensioners stripped of their winter fuel allowance.
Vote Tory if you want the systematic abuse of people with disabilities.
Vote Tory if you want DWP to keep making those who have serious illnesses ( including heart problems and terminal cancer) to be forced to work
Vote Tory is you want child poverty to keep rising as Theresa May takes away free school meals for primary school kids
Vote Tory if you want school budgets cut further
Vote Tory is you want to see the systematic dismantling of our NHS ready to be sold off, like our railways, Royal Mail etc..
Vote Tory if you want Nurse to be forced to use food banks.
Vote Tory if you want food prices, inflation to carry on rising
Vote Tory if you want Tax breaks for the wealthy, while our poorest struggle to survive.
Vote Tory if you want workers rights stripped further back, as more people are forced to work zero hour contracts, and forced to sign up to freelance contracts so employers can dodge paying holidays and sick pay

Is that Strong and stable leadership to you? As to me it's the actions of a dictatorship asset stripping our establishments, pushing people into poverty, despair, and suicide?

Do we need a revolution? More like a revolution of thought, we are quick enough to jump on the anti City propaganda that propagates the media, why are so many accepting of the anti working class propaganda?

What an absolute load of bollocks.

 

[smeeagain]

A quote from over a century ago doesn't cast any meaningful light on this topic, not least because since it was made there hasn't been a whiff of revolution in this country, principally because living standards have hugely and increasingly improved in that time. The quote also predates widespread social security and free at the point of use healthcare, which renders much of its content to be anachronistic and anomalous in the context of modern society.

err foodbanks in 2017 ?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

err foodbanks in 2017 ?

No-one goes hungry in this country. I'm certain Robert Tressell would be staggered at the number of obese poor people in modern society.

 

[SWP's back]

err foodbanks in 2017 ?

Have you seen the size of some of the people using them?

 

[mancityvstoke]

It always amazes me how so called poverty stricken people pay for packets of fags......have you seen the fucking price of them?