It's quiet 10, no apologies! (continued)

[BibbyBlue85]

So Aguero scores 30 goals to be shoved into a supporting role for RVP?

The beauty of our front 4 is that they are all fluid in attack. RVP and Aguero will alternate between main and secondary striker roles.

 

[leewill31]

There's no doubting RVP's Prem experience but the main thinking behind his purchase is our push in the Champs League.

With him in our squad our options in Europe would be endless.

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

i wonder if you know what you are actually saying your self sometimes.....

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

So Aguero scores 30 goals to be shoved into a supporting role for RVP?

RVP can play wide left, up top, just as Aguero can.

Aguero scored 30 goals last season and was screaming out to form a partnership with someone.

 

[Manc in London]

So RVP should sacrifice major honours for Wenger? Pull the other one

I am talking about the way the board is teating Wenger.

If you are going to jump into a conversation, then please ensure you understand what is being talked about first of all.

Perhaps you should make it a little clearer as i wasn't the only 1 who thought you were referring to RVP as that was who was being talked about. FWIW i agree with you in that sense so please re-adjust your tampon

No-one else picked up on your point and two other posters knew what I was referring to.

All this does is further confirm my initial thoughts about you - you are a gob$shite

 

[Maldeika]

Agreed. In the right system a player can be lot better. There are different type of strikers, and Dzeko is not suited in the system City plays.

Probably that is the reason he would be better elsewhere because his full potential is a lot more than what he can achieve here.

It's bit like putting Crouch to Barca where he would have to ace in passing on the ground, to change position with Messi constantly etc. He could be OK (he wouldnt:D), but nowhere near his best potential what is at a mid table club heading balls in and fight with his monster body against defenders.:D

I would sell Dzeko, I love him, good guy, but he would be better at a club that is ready to change or use tactics to get the best out of him, and we would be also better to play a striker in his place in City with better skills suited to this kind of tactics we play.
Also Dzeko is confidence player, in rotation he is nowhere near to his best. If we could get the money we paid for him from Bayern I would sell him. But for 20m no. He worth much more, if that Gomez can score in that league 30 goals also missing huge number of sitters Dzeko can do the same with support from flanks, crossing coming in always from the likes of Ribery, Robben...
(And a less dominant partner like Muller.)

There is no crossings from Ribery or Robben... - Ribery and Robben work on own accounts. And Müller thinks about leaving.

 

[Asa's left peg]

There's no doubting RVP's Prem experience but the main thinking behind his purchase is our push in the Champs League.

With him in our squad our options in Europe would be endless.

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

i wonder if you know what you are actually saying your self sometimes.....

Think maybe he means CL games ?! TBF the midfield and defence were a little naive in some games, but they will have learnt from the experience.

 

[Anonymous]

There's no doubting RVP's Prem experience but the main thinking behind his purchase is our push in the Champs League.

With him in our squad our options in Europe would be endless.

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

i wonder if you know what you are actually saying your self sometimes.....

Chelsea conceded 12 goals in 13 Champs League games (excludes the penalty shoot out) - not bad by anyone's standard in terms of defence.

It was also pretty plain to see Di Mateo played quite deep/defensively to get them where they got to, so I think Mancio makes a decent point, although can understand why some would disagree.

 

[Shooter 83]

Posters keep going on about Van persie's age,

Look at Drogba last season, Nearly 34

Didn't do to bad for himself did he?

Fa cup winner, Champions league winner

If Van Persie stays fit, he guarantees 25 goals a season imo.

I would also look at song from arsenal, if Martinez is a no go,
links up really well with rvp, would add steel and a bit of creativity in the centre.

Think you are getting mixed up pal I said I thought we could get him cheaper if we could speak to him as a free agent in 6months.

 

[nmc]

So Aguero scores 30 goals to be shoved into a supporting role for RVP?

RVP can play wide left, up top, just as Aguero can.

Aguero scored 30 goals last season and was screaming out to form a partnership with someone.

As we rotate - imagine RVP and Tevez together!


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[Rammyblues]

The teams I posted were more of an example as opposed to what the reality would be, in my own mind you are only as strong as your second team. IMO it seems to me we want back four, two holding or supporting midfield players who will defend when we don't have the ball when we do one of them joins the attack which is a fluid five man attack able to go and move where ever they like. It worked well last season the only downside is we didn't seem to have blistering pace on the counter, Bale will give that option.

 

[MSP]

I'm sure Bobby and the owners look at Van Persie and the risk to reward ratio.

The numbers might not be pleasant but what it can bring on the field, worth millions.

For what it's worth, Van Persie is one of the most technically gifted players in all of Europe, he could play until his mid 30s in a variety of roles.

As for his injury record, we could sign Falcao tomorrow and he could break down and be out for over a year, would still see us lose out.

The more pertinent question should be, if Van Persie is only worth £15m to us, do you think United would still think he was too expensive?

Would they fuck, they would be in like a shot and we would have every right to be worried.

I don't think United have problems competing in transfer fees part, their problem are wages.

Not if the fee is £15m, as some blues suggest it should be!

United would be able to pay him £200k a week at that fee.

They would be able to pay it to him as an individual even if transfer fee is 30 mil, they're still big earners unfortunately, but that would break their wage policy and upset other players who would demand better contracts etc, etc and Glazers would have less money to pay for their debt :).

I can't see them paying new player more than 120-130k/week no matter what transfer fee is. They're clearly only after players who are heavily underpaid in their clubs (so they could double their wages but still to not be huge ones - Kagawa, Jones, Young, Smalling are all examples of that).

I don't see them being any threat for RVP transfer tbh.

 

[Mancio]

There's no doubting RVP's Prem experience but the main thinking behind his purchase is our push in the Champs League.

With him in our squad our options in Europe would be endless.

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

Yeah, Chelsea's defence was far superior to ours last season wasn't it?

it was and it is.

 

[brian the blue]

Unless Tevez is happy being 4th choice then I don't see how Balotelli, Aguero, Van Persie and Tevez will all get enough playing time. (I don't think any of those 4 strikers will see playing in the 3rd round of the F.A/Capital one cup as getting game time)

We need 3 top class strikers and a 4th who's happy be a squad player, don't want us to start the season using Balotelli, Aguero and Van Persie (if we sign him) and then have another Tevez affair in October.

We need to address our central defence and central midfield before our strikers in my opinion. Kolo can be a 4th choice CB/RB but Savic needs a loan out so we'll need a new CB. We need a new CM because de Jong isn't good enough unless he's alongside Yaya and we can't rely on having Yaya available every game as at some point he'll pick up an injury or suspension. I know people will say thats why we're after Martinez, but, similarly to Kompany when he signed, he'll ultimately end up taking a Midfield role or defensive role long term, don't see how it can benefit him constantly rotating between defence and midfield every other week.

 

[leewill31]

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

Yeah, Chelsea's defence was far superior to ours last season wasn't it?

it was and it is.

so there was only a champions league played last season?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Agreed. In the right system a player can be lot better. There are different type of strikers, and Dzeko is not suited in the system City plays.

Probably that is the reason he would be better elsewhere because his full potential is a lot more than what he can achieve here.

It's bit like putting Crouch to Barca where he would have to ace in passing on the ground, to change position with Messi constantly etc. He could be OK (he wouldnt:D), but nowhere near his best potential what is at a mid table club heading balls in and fight with his monster body against defenders.:D

I would sell Dzeko, I love him, good guy, but he would be better at a club that is ready to change or use tactics to get the best out of him, and we would be also better to play a striker in his place in City with better skills suited to this kind of tactics we play.
Also Dzeko is confidence player, in rotation he is nowhere near to his best. If we could get the money we paid for him from Bayern I would sell him. But for 20m no. He worth much more, if that Gomez can score in that league 30 goals also missing huge number of sitters Dzeko can do the same with support from flanks, crossing coming in always from the likes of Ribery, Robben...
(And a less dominant partner like Muller.)

There is no crossings from Ribery or Robben... - Ribery and Robben work on own accounts. And Müller thinks about leaving.

Now Mr Muller is one I would break the bank for. Him and Yaya would be phenom.

 

[Manc in London]

So RVP should sacrifice major honours for Wenger? Pull the other one

I am talking about the way the board is teating Wenger.

If you are going to jump into a conversation, then please ensure you understand what is being talked about first of all.

Perhaps you should make it a little clearer as i wasn't the only 1 who thought you were referring to RVP as that was who was being talked about. FWIW i agree with you in that sense so please re-adjust your tampon

No-one else picked up on your point and two other posters knew what I was referring to.

All this does is further confirm my initial thoughts about you - you are a gob$shite

 

[citytill1die84]

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

Yeah, Chelsea's defence was far superior to ours last season wasn't it?

it was and it is.

Yea rite and I've just seen a flying pig.

 

[Anonymous]

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

Yeah, Chelsea's defence was far superior to ours last season wasn't it?

it was and it is.

Nah mate; very wrong with this.

We conceded 29 goals in the league this season compared to Chelsea's 46. Mourinho made them sound defensively but that's all come undone over the last few seasons. However, I did say in my other thread Chelsea were good defensively in Champs League (or at least in my opinion they were).

 

[Anonymous]

Tevez and aguero should be our two main strikers, Mancini doesnt rotate if your good enough your in the team every week, which means if we buy rvp we are gonna have plenty of unhappy strikers

 

[Andouble]

tolm what about the Javy Martinez quotes from the other day?

RVP a good player and would improve the squad but striker doesn't scream priority for us at the moment I'd think.