It's quiet 10, no apologies! (continued)

[Anonymous]

tolm what about the Javy Martinez quotes from the other day?

RVP a good player and would improve the squad but striker doesn't scream priority for us at the moment I'd think.

I agree with this, we scored more goals than anyone last season why do we need to buy a striker ?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I don't think United have problems competing in transfer fees part, their problem are wages.

Not if the fee is £15m, as some blues suggest it should be!

United would be able to pay him £200k a week at that fee.

They would be able to pay it to him as an individual even if transfer fee is 30 mil, they're still big earners unfortunately, but that would break their wage policy and upset other players who would demand better contracts etc, etc and Glazers would have less money to pay for their debt :).

I can't see them paying new player more than 120-130k/week no matter what transfer fee is. They're clearly only after players who are heavily underpaid in their clubs (so they could double their wages but still to not be huge ones - Kagawa, Jones, Young, Smalling are all examples of that).

I don't see them being any threat for RVP transfer tbh.

You are wide of the mark IMO....

United lost out on Hazard (a 21-year-old) because they could not match the personal terms, allied to a £30m plus transfer fee.

Same reason they pulled the plug early on Sneijder last summer.

United pay Rooney £250k a week, because they had to. When the fee is high, the wages become a big problem.

Invariably, when the fee is high, the player is already top class, earning very well, and United just can't compete.

They are currently asking Wio to take a huge drop on wages.

United could justify £200k a week to Van Persie ONLY if the fee was around £15m.

 

[brand blue heavies]

Why are we not looking at Christian Eriksson? We have two fantastic midfield players(Nasri + Silva) and occasionally when one is not fit or needs a rest this lad would fit in a treat. Young,super skillful and wouldn`t cost a packet. Wouldn`t mind sitting on the bench either til he gets his chance.

A player like him along with either Martinez/Mvilla/Diarra and Bale and RVP and we`ll be pushing on all fronts. Id like a quality CB to but not sure who would play second fiddle to JL.

 

[Rammyblues]

Tevez and aguero should be our two main strikers, Mancini doesnt rotate if your good enough your in the team every week, which means if we buy rvp we are gonna have plenty of unhappy strikers

IMO he didn't rotate because he couldn't rely on either Balotelli or Dzeko to produce the goods. When Tevez was away and Mancini did rotate Dzeko was found wanting. IMO Mancini is looking to find players who won't lose form when he decides to tactically rotate.

 

[Inzi]

Tevez and aguero should be our two main strikers, Mancini doesnt rotate if your good enough your in the team every week, which means if we buy rvp we are gonna have plenty of unhappy strikers

yeah 4 top top quality strikers is going to be a problem. rotation can only go so far.the team needs to build up chemistry and that cant happen if we're swapping strikers all the time

dzeko got little playing time towards the end of the season when tevez came back and was unhappy (said the man himself) WHEN he was on the bench

again, its just too much. i would agree we need a 4th striker but not guidetti he cant settle for that he needs to grow. someone really young or really old like an inzaghi

 

[MSP]

Not if the fee is £15m, as some blues suggest it should be!

United would be able to pay him £200k a week at that fee.

They would be able to pay it to him as an individual even if transfer fee is 30 mil, they're still big earners unfortunately, but that would break their wage policy and upset other players who would demand better contracts etc, etc and Glazers would have less money to pay for their debt :).

I can't see them paying new player more than 120-130k/week no matter what transfer fee is. They're clearly only after players who are heavily underpaid in their clubs (so they could double their wages but still to not be huge ones - Kagawa, Jones, Young, Smalling are all examples of that).

I don't see them being any threat for RVP transfer tbh.

You are wide of the mark IMO....

United lost out on Hazard (a 21-year-old) because they could not match the personal terms, allied to a £30m plus transfer fee.

Same reason they pulled the plug early on Sneijder last summer.

United pay Rooney £250k a week, because they had to. When the fee is high, the wages become a big problem.

Invariably, when the fee is high, the player is already top class, earning very well, and United just can't compete.

They are currently asking Wio to take a huge drop on wages.

United could justify £200k a week to Van Persie ONLY if the fee was around £15m.

I think we're not too far in our vies of them bastards :), some small technical details so let them die there :)

 

[Inzi]

Tevez and aguero should be our two main strikers, Mancini doesnt rotate if your good enough your in the team every week, which means if we buy rvp we are gonna have plenty of unhappy strikers

yeah 4 top top quality strikers is going to be a problem. rotation can only go so far.the team needs to build up chemistry and that cant happen if we're swapping strikers all the time

dzeko got little playing time towards the end of the season when tevez came back and was unhappy (said the man himself) WHEN he was on the bench

again, its just too much. i would agree we need a 4th striker but not guidetti he cant settle for that he needs to grow. someone really young or really old like an inzaghi

 

[Mancio]

Yeah, Chelsea's defence was far superior to ours last season wasn't it?

it was and it is.

so there was only a champions league played last season?

We literally DOMINATED the EPL. and we risked losing it because of the defense.

the same defense that led us out of the CL and EL

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

tolm what about the Javy Martinez quotes from the other day?

RVP a good player and would improve the squad but striker doesn't scream priority for us at the moment I'd think.

I agree with this, we scored more goals than anyone last season why do we need to buy a striker ?

You do know I'm not Mancini, don't you?

Martinez's quotes were nothing you would not expect.

If Barcelona are sniffing, we will forget it and move on.

 

[J3SUS]

tolm what about the Javy Martinez quotes from the other day?

RVP a good player and would improve the squad but striker doesn't scream priority for us at the moment I'd think.

I agree with this, we scored more goals than anyone last season why do we need to buy a striker ?

You do know I'm not Mancini, don't you?

Martinez's quotes were nothing you would not expect.

If Barcelona are sniffing, we will forget it and move on.

are Barcelona impossible to compete with in the market ? I though clubs would have been put off after the fabregas situation.

 

[Rammyblues]

Martinez's quotes were nothing you would not expect.

If Barcelona are sniffing, we will forget it and move on.

Sighs, be interesting to see Rio take a pay cut because of Rags istory and the honour of wearing the shirt. Like last time nearly went on strike that should be interesting. :-)

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

it was and it is.

so there was only a champions league played last season?

We literally DOMINATED the EPL. and we risked losing it because of the defense.

the same defense that led us out of the CL and EL

Absolute bollocks. You state we dominated the Premier League and yet risked losing it because of the defence, which one was it?

How many fewer goals should we have conceded to have made sure?

We went out of Europe down to a lack of experience, a top group and a lack of depth.

For the record, Chelsea's Champions League victory was built on two missed penalty awards and a penalty shoot out.

That's not defence, that's the lap of the gods.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

Yeah, Chelsea's defence was far superior to ours last season wasn't it?

it was and it is.

Behave. Getting 11 men behind the ball does not constitute having a good defence. If you park the bus, occasionally you will get lucky.

I don't remember Barca having to rely on their defence to often in the Champions league over the last 5 years or so. And they haven't done to bad have they?

 

[leewill31]

it was and it is.

so there was only a champions league played last season?

We literally DOMINATED the EPL. and we risked losing it because of the defense.

the same defense that led us out of the CL and EL

but we WON it because of our Superior defense and goals coincided...chelsea's defence was no better than ours pointing to the champions league does not proof a thing especially with the groups we were both put in!

no doubting our defense can and will improve but to compare chelsea's to ours im not having that one.

 

[bluemonkey71]

Mancio, put down the crack pipe.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Mancio, put down the crack pipe.

Italians can't afford crack these days.

Mancio is now sniffing Shake n' Vac

 

[Mark - TheBlue]

Surley without Dzeko we loose that aerial presence that helps us get of of jams when teams park the bus at times? His partnership with Aguero wasn't even that bad was it?

 

[Rammyblues]

Well for me if we sign RVP that will blow me away. I also expect a banner to be put up at the Emirates

This stadium, fought for by Wenger sponsored by Emirates paid for by MCFC.


This all comes down to two things ambition of the player to win something and his family. His missus said din't want to leave kids were settled etc so I still remain doubtful it will happen, but if it does this will be the marquee signing of the summer.

 

[robbieh]

I am goin to spring to the defence of Mancio on this one.

We may not have conceded many goals in the league because most teams didn't bother attacking us. They parked the bus and hoped to nick a goal. Most weren't good enough to do so and that's why we have a good defensive record in the premier league.

In europe however it was a different ball game. we were up against more clinical forwards and we also didn't dominate possession in midfield like we do in the league. Barry, Milner etc not quite so effective in this arena.

So as far as I am concerned get RVP if he wants to come and we offload a striker,but he is not the key. If Tevez and Edin want to stay we have a fearsome front 4 as it is.

To improve in europe we need a centre back who can play football. pique for example. Vince is great but he often hoofs it long and inacurately, while Joleon, well its just not his thing.

In midfield we do need someone a bit more cultured.

So if we signed Pique and Sneijder for example i think we'd be almost there as far as Europe is concerned.

Hart
Richards Kompany Pique Clichy
de Jong
Snejder Yaya Silva
Aguero Tevez

 

[Happy Feet]

it was and it is.

so there was only a champions league played last season?

We literally DOMINATED the EPL. and we risked losing it because of the defense.

the same defense that led us out of the CL and EL

Utter shite.