It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

A bit worried about our depth in the squad if Zin leaves. It's a bit small with all the competitions next season including the world cup
If we get Cucurella in we'll be fine. We wouldn't be letting players go unless we have replacements lined up. Looks like we will also be brining in a Ake replacement too.

We'll be fine. Just gutted Zinny may be going.
 
That’s a nonsensical argument really. We aren’t buying Cucurella to play the same amount of games as he did last season.
No more nonsensical than yours.

Cucurella played against City, United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and everyone else in an unfancied team. Zinny played almost exclusively in games we were expected to walk. As previous poster said Zinny played less than an hour against top 6 sides last season.

He isn’t a better offensive fullback than Zinchenko. Anyone with a pair of eyes can see that.
Laughable.

What he is, is a natural left back, better at defending than Zinchenko.

Well, yeah. He’s a mile ahead defensively too. Zinchenko only has possession retention and ball progression on Cucurella.
 
But you also have to untick the box which hides players who haven't played many minutes.

Per 90 is definitely more valid than per season, but players will often have impressive spells over a short period, so the more minutes they've played IS important.

Playing most matches also means you're playing the best teams. Last season Zinchenko played 56 minutes of football against other top six sides. Against the teams in 7th and 8th, he played 180 minutes, and we conceded 5 goals.

Maybe nothing to do with him, but it does mean that when he played last season, we conceding 1.9 goals per 90 minutes against top eight sides. Now, is that because he was playing in already weakened sides? Ultimately it could just be a quirk, but indicates that sample size does matter when you're looking at per 90 figures.
I wasn't arguing the defensive side as much, more offensive.

You are right that sample size matters as well, zinny play 21 full 90s which was enough for me consider his GCA as relevant.
 
Thanks for the reference site.

It’s a double edged sword. It’s far harder to create 1.3 chances per 90 for 35 games than 1.4 chances per 90 for 15 games.
Why is it harder? Couldn’t it be argued getting regular game time is easier to find consistency so easier to have better stats?
 
Why is it harder? Couldn’t it be argued getting regular game time is easier to find consistency so easier to have better stats?
It’s harder because you have to do it again and again.

If a striker plays 20 games and scores 10 goals is that more impressive than a player who scored 24 goals in 50 games? No.
 
Orenstein bomb. Zinchenko to Arsenal possible.
If true I’d expect a replacement for Sterling, the fact we are confident on signing Cucurella or another left back and a left footed CB replacement for Ake. Zinchenko adds a lot of depth
 

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