It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

yeah i agree, it would seem its just us chancing our arm.
It would be a shame if we did not ask imo. We have had interest in Reece James so I wouldn't be surprised if we think of asking them a player in return considering two of our players are their top targets.
 
It would be a shame if we did not ask imo. We have had interest in Reece James so I wouldn't be surprised if we think of asking them a player in return considering two of our players are their top targets.

oh yeah without question us asking the question is completely the right thing to do mate!
 
Unless I’m mistaken, I don’t think the deal tolmie mentioned is actually what is available to us. That’s just what we’ve asked for, to which Chelsea will obviously say no as it’s way too good a deal for us and too bad a deal for them to decimate their defence even further. I think if they offer £100m for the two, they get both. If not, they just take Sterling.

Ake's price and value should be a lot higher than Sterling's. 3 years on contract, younger, PL proven even before us, and club trained for them. Sorry, if we were buying a former player in the exact same situation, wouldn't start below 70m, and we'd all be arguing pay it, pep will do wonders with him. I don't see how Ake goes for anything less than 60m, plus add-ons.

And if Raz is 50m+, and he is, then 100m for the two would take the piss.
 
Can’t see it happening but James is easily worth at least £70M. He’ll be the best, or one of, the best right backs in the world for the next 10 years and he’s English. Would love to have him here but feel he’d end up abroad at somewhere like Madrid if he was ever to leave Chelsea.
 
I'd love Reece James at City, but Chelsea would be mad to let him go. If he were to come though, I wonder if Walker would become our 4th choice centre back to help with rotation. Potentially in a back 3? He's played there a few times for England and possibly the odd time for City?

A condensed season and 5 subs allowed. I reckon Pep is going to enjoy keeping everyone on their toes with his selections!
 
Ake's price and value should be a lot higher than Sterling's. 3 years on contract, younger, PL proven even before us, and club trained for them. Sorry, if we were buying a former player in the exact same situation, wouldn't start below 70m, and we'd all be arguing pay it, pep will do wonders with him. I don't see how Ake goes for anything less than 60m, plus add-ons.

And if Raz is 50m+, and he is, then 100m for the two would take the piss.
Two months younger.
 
Again I’d probably say I’m in the minority and I wouldn’t want James coming in. The reason being Walker and Cancelo are both world class players and can cover the position, now after that we have Yan Couto who is a rb and was on loan at braga. He’s been nominated for the golden boy and is meant to be incredibly talented. Then we also have Kabore the rb at Troyes who has shone in the African cup of nations and been linked to Forest on loan.

I would much prefer us saving some money and slowly integrating these exceptional talents.

Like Tolmie has mentioned these departures haven’t significantly hurt our first eleven. So now is the time for the youth evolution!
 
Ake's price and value should be a lot higher than Sterling's. 3 years on contract, younger, PL proven even before us, and club trained for them. Sorry, if we were buying a former player in the exact same situation, wouldn't start below 70m, and we'd all be arguing pay it, pep will do wonders with him. I don't see how Ake goes for anything less than 60m, plus add-ons.

And if Raz is 50m+, and he is, then 100m for the two would take the piss.
Personally I don’t think there’s much in it in terms of their current valuations. Everything being equal, Raz is considerably more valuable, but his contract running down and his greater desire to leave bring him in line with Ake for me. £100m guaranteed for the two and I think they’re gone. Probably a little bit on top in potential add-ons to take it to like £110m or something, but if £100m is guaranteed, I think they’re both in Chelsea blue next season.
 
Again I’d probably say I’m in the minority and I wouldn’t want James coming in. The reason being Walker and Cancelo are both world class players and can cover the position, now after that we have Yan Couto who is a rb and was on loan at braga. He’s been nominated for the golden boy and is meant to be incredibly talented. Then we also have Kabore the rb at Troyes who has shone in the African cup of nations and been linked to Forest on loan.

I would much prefer us saving some money and slowly integrating these exceptional talents.

Like Tolmie has mentioned these departures haven’t significantly hurt our first eleven. So now is the time for the youth evolution!
Walker cannot go on forever, and we have a bargaining chip, which prob won't happen again in that, Chelsea want something of ours, and we appear ok to let them have it.

Whether they agree or not, Txiki does right by trying to exploit those circumstances .
 
Again I’d probably say I’m in the minority and I wouldn’t want James coming in. The reason being Walker and Cancelo are both world class players and can cover the position, now after that we have Yan Couto who is a rb and was on loan at braga. He’s been nominated for the golden boy and is meant to be incredibly talented. Then we also have Kabore the rb at Troyes who has shone in the African cup of nations and been linked to Forest on loan.

I would much prefer us saving some money and slowly integrating these exceptional talents.

Like Tolmie has mentioned these departures haven’t significantly hurt our first eleven. So now is the time for the youth evolution!
If the youngsters are good enough then they will get into the first team. It's all well and good bringing them in and giving them game time but they have to be good enough to play at this level and to play at this level you need to be extraordinary!
Pep got a lot of stick for not playing Phil Foden more when he was breaking through, Pep has handled Phil magnificently and he's doing the same with Cole Palmer.
We have full internationals that has won numerous trophies playing first team football for years that struggle in some games never mind a kid trying to break into the first team.
Pep will give them the chance of he thinks they are up to it.
 
We have asked about Reece James.

Ake and Raheem would be £110m.

They didn't really want to pay that, so we have proposed a solution.

It would mean James and £40m coming to us.

Thoughts?

I think we are very short at right-back and it would be a phenomenal deal?
If they did that deal I think the Chelsea fans would have Boehly's head on a spike.

I love the idea of Txiki and friends giggling in the corridors about how stupid this guy must be.
 
We have asked about Reece James.

Ake and Raheem would be £110m.

They didn't really want to pay that, so we have proposed a solution.

It would mean James and £40m coming to us.

Thoughts?

I think we are very short at right-back and it would be a phenomenal deal?
I'd be all for it but would that be instead of a left back with Cancelo staying left ?
 
If the youngsters are good enough then they will get into the first team. It's all well and good bringing them in and giving them game time but they have to be good enough to play at this level and to play at this level you need to be extraordinary!
Pep got a lot of stick for not playing Phil Foden more when he was breaking through, Pep has handled Phil magnificently and he's doing the same with Cole Palmer.
We have full internationals that has won numerous trophies playing first team football for years that struggle in some games never mind a kid trying to break into the first team.
Pep will give them the chance of he thinks they are up to it.
I can completely understand the point however not sure I can agree.

So my thinking is say in the big games we play Walker as rb with the new lb or cancelo potentially. Then say the other player rotates out if Walker needs a rest.

So the games against say Leyton orient in the cup, or the final 30 minutes of a league we are comfortably winning then that’s the game these young talented players should feature.

There should be a realistic pathway for a rb rather than having Walker, James and Cancelo ahead of them. You say world class talents will force themselves into the reckoning but I just don’t know how that’s possible at all with 3 quality rbs in their way.

I’d get more satisfaction from us doing it this way, and I can’t see how it will have a detrimental effect on our trophy haul.
 
We have asked about Reece James.

Ake and Raheem would be £110m.

They didn't really want to pay that, so we have proposed a solution.

It would mean James and £40m coming to us.

Thoughts?

I think we are very short at right-back and it would be a phenomenal deal?

This would be superb, James is the only obvious choice at the minute that could succeed Walker.

That means 3 right backs in the squad though if Cucurella is coming too. Are city laying the groundwork for Southgate to take over next season???
 
We have asked about Reece James.

Ake and Raheem would be £110m.

They didn't really want to pay that, so we have proposed a solution.

It would mean James and £40m coming to us.

Thoughts?

I think we are very short at right-back and it would be a phenomenal deal?
This would be fantastic business. May leave us a little short at LB cover, I have never been convinced by Zinchenko or Cancelo, although it has to be said that Ake is not stand out at LB either. Feels like we have muddled through for seasons now.
 

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