It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

Yes and no. Which is why I tend to treat it in terms of the 21 limit. We have always had Fodens, Palmers, Garcias, Celinas, Bobbs, Delaps, Lewises etc. on top of the 20/21. Granted, Lewis is better than most we have had in terms of the contribution he will likely have.

If we sign nobody, this will be the first time we go into a season with 19 of the 21. That's not a complaint or a concern, just an observation. It is indeed blurred by the youth, but I think it always has been, so the difference still applies imo.

I doubt Pep is unhappy with what he has regardless, otherwise things would be happening or have happened already, and that is more than good enough for me.

Don't think it's right to put the likes of Delap or Celina on the same level as Foden, Palmer or Garcia. Whenever Pep has pulled a kid into the first squad properly (Foden, Garcia, Palmer, Lewis, Bobb and now potentially O'Reilly), they have contributed significantly, not just 5 minutes here and there. I'd argue Pep has always started the season with a squad of 22 or 23 first team players, not counting Carson and kids getting a runout in the Carabao while mainly playing for the EDS.

19/20: 23 players, but Angelino out in Jan. Fewest minutes: Angelino (900), Garcia (1,400), Bravo (1,450), Laporte (1,500), Foden (1,750), Zinchenko (1,750)
20/21: 22 players. Fewest minutes: Agüero (700), Garcia (850), Aké (1,000), Steffen (1,100), Mendy (1,500)
21/22: 22 players, but Mendy infamously out and Ferran out in Jan. Fewest minutes: Mendy (150), Palmer (400), Torres (500), Steffen (800), Fernandinho (1,750), Zinchenko (1,850)
22/23: 22 players, but Cancelo out in Jan. Fewest minutes: Phillips (600), Palmer (850), Gomez (950), Ortega (1,200), Lewis (1,450), Cancelo (1,850), Laporte (1,850)
23/24: 22 players, but Phillips out in Jan. Fewest minutes: Phillips (300), Gomez (450), Bobb (800), Nunes (1,350), Ortega (1,600), Lewis (1,600), De Bruyne (1,750), Stones (1,850)
24/25: 23 players currently. I expect O'Reilly to get 300-500 minutes max due to the number of midfielders around, McAtee hopefully 1,000+ and Bobb should have gotten at least 1,400-ish if he didn't get injured. Even if O'Reilly does not make it (yet), that's 22 senior players – McAtee has played amost 2,000 minutes of PL football last season.

I do feel we are overstocked in midfield and light in the striker department. Could have done with Nunes out and a #9 in. Purely numbers-wise we are more than fine though.
 
or we are not stupid and see no reason to blow millions on players we don't actually want?
There is not a chance in hell that City are going to sandbag Pep and not back him, what better way to try and get someone to stay then to ruin the squad and sell all the players.

We have replaced Alvarez with Savinho, he can play across the front line, he hasn't got as much experience centrally as Alvarez has but hes much better on either wing and we have several options if Haaland doesn't play. A Foden, Savinho and Doku front 3 for example is full of pace, skill and plenty of ability.

Kovacic despite his age can get better you know, its entirely possible that Pep is willing to tweak the system and Kovacic can now deliver what is required to deputise for Rodri, its worked so far?
Absolutely, Kovacic is still young,Modric still playing at 38,its also possible and an incentive for Nunes,Mcatee to step up,we also have Bobb and maybe Echeveri come January. You're not gonna get a class striker to come and sit on the bench.
We won the league two years running with a false nine so im more than happy.
After 17 trophies and counting don't see why some don't trust the great man.
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or we are not stupid and see no reason to blow millions on players we don't actually want?
There is not a chance in hell that City are going to sandbag Pep and not back him, what better way to try and get someone to stay then to ruin the squad and sell all the players.

We have replaced Alvarez with Savinho, he can play across the front line, he hasn't got as much experience centrally as Alvarez has but hes much better on either wing and we have several options if Haaland doesn't play. A Foden, Savinho and Doku front 3 for example is full of pace, skill and plenty of ability.

Kovacic despite his age can get better you know, its entirely possible that Pep is willing to tweak the system and Kovacic can now deliver what is required to deputise for Rodri, its worked so far?
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In blow out games we can play a false one and put Eddie in at the 9.

That said- is there a rule where you can't pull your 9, pop the goalie in there after a kit change and then put in your back up keeper?

Sorry I think Eddie's getting the tasket for goals and will need to be fed.

Hi Stuart
 
Of course we have options. Are those options good enough to see us through were we to lose Haaland for any period of time? By see us through I'm talking about winning the Prem/CL. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

Individually, no. As a sum of their parts, imo, yes.


Edit. Funnily enough that would also have applied to Alvarez, and any striker we might have brought in to replace him. At least any that we have been linked with.
 
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I devoutly hope Savinho can be a back up striker for us if needed - nobody else in the squad has a good track record in that position. Gundo is a big bonus I agree but he is not a 6 and just renders Nunes completely pointless.
The fact Nunes is rubbish renders him completely pointless.
 
Those linking a quiet summer to the 115 are frankly nuts. As if we are in anyway guilty, there would more than likely be a transfer ban, so if we were expecting any future punishment, we’d be spending like drunken sailors/Chelsea.
Or perhaps, how do you convince Florian Wirtz to come and play in the national league...
 
Don't think it's right to put the likes of Delap or Celina on the same level as Foden, Palmer or Garcia. Whenever Pep has pulled a kid into the first squad properly (Foden, Garcia, Palmer, Lewis, Bobb and now potentially O'Reilly), they have contributed significantly, not just 5 minutes here and there. I'd argue Pep has always started the season with a squad of 22 or 23 first team players, not counting Carson and kids getting a runout in the Carabao while mainly playing for the EDS.

19/20: 23 players, but Angelino out in Jan. Fewest minutes: Angelino (900), Garcia (1,400), Bravo (1,450), Laporte (1,500), Foden (1,750), Zinchenko (1,750)
20/21: 22 players. Fewest minutes: Agüero (700), Garcia (850), Aké (1,000), Steffen (1,100), Mendy (1,500)
21/22: 22 players, but Mendy infamously out and Ferran out in Jan. Fewest minutes: Mendy (150), Palmer (400), Torres (500), Steffen (800), Fernandinho (1,750), Zinchenko (1,850)
22/23: 22 players, but Cancelo out in Jan. Fewest minutes: Phillips (600), Palmer (850), Gomez (950), Ortega (1,200), Lewis (1,450), Cancelo (1,850), Laporte (1,850)
23/24: 22 players, but Phillips out in Jan. Fewest minutes: Phillips (300), Gomez (450), Bobb (800), Nunes (1,350), Ortega (1,600), Lewis (1,600), De Bruyne (1,750), Stones (1,850)
24/25: 23 players currently. I expect O'Reilly to get 300-500 minutes max due to the number of midfielders around, McAtee hopefully 1,000+ and Bobb should have gotten at least 1,400-ish if he didn't get injured. Even if O'Reilly does not make it (yet), that's 22 senior players – McAtee has played amost 2,000 minutes of PL football last season.

I do feel we are overstocked in midfield and light in the striker department. Could have done with Nunes out and a #9 in. Purely numbers-wise we are more than fine though.

I think a 9 without Nunes moving out would have been better. Nunes is not stopping a second striker coming in, not in terms of squad spaces or finances. That's down to the market and the lack of options. People readily say would rather wait than sign another Phillips/Nunes, I think the same has to apply to a striker too.
 
What do you define as too expensive? I'm just genuinely asking? Is 30 to 40 mil too much to ensure genuine cover for Haaland? Because I guarantee that at that number we would find at least a dozen candidates willing and able to fill that role on this squad at this point in time.
I believe it probably is. I’m sure many would be willing and able but whether they would be capable is quite another thing. The problem with signing designated strikers as cover for Haaland is that they need game time to find form and that is going to be hard to come by. Haaland missed 12 matches through injury last season and was rested for 2. Having had the entire summer off, however, one would now expect him to be closer to his opening season figures, when he missed 3 matches through injury and was rested for 5. Either way, that’s not much playing time left for another designated striker to find form, and the club appears to think that the money and playing time could be better utilised. It’s a risk either way, to be sure, but I can understand their decision.
 

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