It's Quiet - a new dawn

[cadds92]

Could be related to Girona.

In Madrid?

 

[Lancet Fluke]

He was coming along well next to Kompany but still had moments of mindblowing shiteness, however, for the first time since arriving, he was starting to play as if he realised there were two cbs & a team, rather than just him on his own on the whole pitch. I swear on one occasion I saw the ball in the air & he didn't charge toward it.

But we overpaid for him absolutely.

Some of the shite playing & succeeding in other leagues though, he is worth money if we were to sell him. Savic plays for Atletico.

That means Otamendi could play there, no problem.

I'm absolutely convinced Otamendi could look really good in the right team, under the right manager. As you say, he'd look good at Atletico and I know this sounds ridiculous but I reckon Pulis would knock him into shape and he'd look good in their hugely defensive way of playing. Kompany seems to have the gift of being able to bring a level of calmness to whoever is playing alongside him which is great but no doubt they'd all revert to headless chicken mode if he is out for any length of time. Which is why when people are considering VVD and discussing stuff like tackling stats, I think it is more important than anything to consider how composed he is under pressure and even more importantly whether he can bring that composure to those around him. The next CB we sign needs to be a leader, it's as simple as that. I'm just so pleased that pep had a couple of months to see what things could be like with a proper player back there. Supporters seem 50/50 on whether we need a centre back, but as much as Pep went on and on about missing chances being our big problem, I reckon he will now be thinking "fuck that" at the idea of Stones and Otamendi being his defensive partnership for any length of time next season. He must know it would undermine everything.

 

[Airbags Optional]

CBA reading all the posts, what's this about Ota?

 

[Neville Kneville]

CBA reading all the posts, what's this about Ota?

It's originated in comedy because we have a rep travelling to Madrid, for whatever reason.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I'm absolutely convinced Otamendi could look really good in the right team, under the right manager. As you say, he'd look good at Atletico and I know this sounds ridiculous but I reckon Pulis would knock him into shape and he'd look good in their hugely defensive way of playing. Kompany seems to have the gift of being able to bring a level of calmness to whoever is playing alongside him which is great but no doubt they'd all revert to headless chicken mode if he is out for any length of time. Which is why when people are considering VVD and discussing stuff like tackling stats, I think it is more important than anything to consider how composed he is under pressure and even more importantly whether he can bring that composure to those around him. The next CB we sign needs to be a leader, it's as simple as that. I'm just so pleased that pep had a couple of months to see what things could be like with a proper player back there. Supporters seem 50/50 on whether we need a centre back, but as much as Pep went on and on about missing chances being our big problem, I reckon he will now be thinking "fuck that" at the idea of Stones and Otamendi being his defensive partnership for any length of time next season. He must know it would undermine everything.

I agree. Both need someone to tell them what to do.

 

[Airbags Optional]

It's originated in comedy because we have a rep travelling to Madrid, for whatever reason.

Thanks so 2+2=5

 

[mosssideblue]

Who have you seen praise Otamendi as a purchase who isn't a City fan?

Because, quite seriously, I've never seen anyone say "that was a good buy" or "he's a good defender for City". Not one. And I consume an unhealthy amount of football media, from 10 podcasts a week, MOTD, MNF, 5Live every night and probably 10 games a week, and I've never heard any player or pundit say he's a great player.

Go on to opposition fan or neutral forums and he's seen as a complete joke as well.

It's only amongst City fans that he's thought of as being good enough, and even that is very divided.

I don't think it's questionable that his reputation has taken a massive dive since joining us.

So you made shit up then is what your saying to try and reinforce your argument

 

[domalino]

So you made shit up then is what your saying to try and reinforce your argument

Unless you've got no friends who are fans of other clubs, you know full well his reputation is in the gutter.

Can you post one single article from the general media that praises Otamendi's performances to contradict my argument?

 

[The blue phantom]

If VVD is worth £70 million then yes, close to. Especially if it's to by far and away the best team in the World.

Only City fans would think we should sell a defender who plays every week for City to Madrid for less than Liverpool were going to pay for a Southampton defender with 12 good months behind him..

And I don't particularly rate him.

It's all about opinions mate.

A fair few on here think we will get at least £60 Million for Otamendi. Me personally i don't think we will.

 

[Cityfan]

Who have you seen praise Otamendi as a purchase who isn't a City fan?

Because, quite seriously, I've never seen anyone say "that was a good buy" or "he's a good defender for City". Not one. And I consume an unhealthy amount of football media, from 10 podcasts a week, MOTD, MNF, 5Live every night and probably 10 games a week, and I've never heard any player or pundit say he's a great player.

Go on to opposition fan or neutral forums and he's seen as a complete joke as well.

It's only amongst City fans that he's thought of as being good enough, and even that is very divided.

I don't think it's questionable that his reputation has taken a massive dive since joining us.

A couple of things, one is that the nature of City's defense is that defenders get exposed a bit more than elsewhere, second is that it often takes neutrals and opposing fans a lot longer to see the virtues of defensive players rather than attacking players particularly when they have a slightly dodgy start and get a reputation. A personal opinion is that he has improved a lot