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Well, yes, but it's not as easy as that.

Only so many clubs could afford the fee on Sanchez and even less could manage the wages he's after. He wants more than his current £180k per week, which is ultimately why he's leaving in the first place, and Arsenal are rumored to have offered between £250-280k per week which he has apparently rejected. A club like Bayern would certainly be after a player such as Sanchez and could certainly pay 40-50m for him, but the wages are out of proportion for the current structure in the club and would be impossible for them to take on board without having to restructure across the squad.

Simply put, there isn't really really a market for Sanchez other than a few select teams, of which City are one. If the player wants City, that gives us the edge.

The only hiccup, if there is one, is that he wants to leave for trophies and not as much for the wages from what I understand. If that's the case then it comes down to wages or trophies (we can provide higher wages, Bayern pips us in expected trophies).

It's a brutal call for Alexis. If I were him I'd probably just go to Bayern as that shows a bit of loyalty to my current club.
 
The only hiccup, if there is one, is that he wants to leave for trophies and not as much for the wages from what I understand. If that's the case then it comes down to wages or trophies (we can provide higher wages, Bayern pips us in expected trophies).

It's a brutal call for Alexis. If I were him I'd probably just go to Bayern as that shows a bit of loyalty to my current club.

The trophies thing is an issue, though I'd say certainly less than money depending on the circumstances.

Bayern's current wage structure is very straight-forward. The highest earners are Lewandowski, Robben and Ribery on €160,000 per week, with Neuer, Vidal and Muller just behind on €150,000. That's quite a bit less than the €180,000 or so per week that Sanchez currently gets at Arsenal.
Now, either Sanchez takes a pay cut, or he becomes Bayern's highest earner by a considerable measure just to hold parity with what he earns at Arsenal. Even if that's the case, you have to consider players like Lewandowski, Neuer, Vidal and Muller would all suddenly want a bigger piece of that pie. A squad-wide wage restructure follows and Bayern are hamstrung in the transfer market for years as they have aging players on elephant contracts, but not the capital to simply loan them out and replace them (as City do)

That's all hypothetically in a situation where Sanchez doesn't want more wages, which it seems he at least originally did. If City offer him, say, £230-250k per week that would be a major incentive. Our trophy chances are pretty strong under Pep and, indeed, Sanchez wants to play under Pep again too.
 
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The trophies thing is an issue, though I'd say certainly less than money depending on the circumstances.

Bayern's current wage structure is very straight-forward. The highest earners are Lewandowski, Robben and Ribery on €160,000 per week, with Neuer, Vidal and Muller and just behind on €150,000. That's quite a bit less than the €180,000 or so per week that Sanchez currently gets at Arsenal.
Now, either Sanchez takes a pay cut, or he becomes Bayern's highest earner by a considerable measure just to hold parity with what he earns at Arsenal. Even if that's the case, you have to consider players like Lewandowski, Neuer, Vidal and Muller would all suddenly want a bigger piece of that pie. A squad-wide wage restructure follows and Bayern are hamstrung in the transfer market for years as they have aging players on elephant contracts, but not the capital to simply loan them out and replace them (as City do)

That's all hypothetically in a situation where Sanchez doesn't want more wages, which it seems he at least originally did. If City offer him, say, £230-250k per week that would be a major incentive. Our trophy chances are pretty strong under Pep and, indeed, Sanchez wants to play under Pep again too.

Good post. I'm going to take you at your word on the wages and if that's the case then I can see why 'city think they are 90% to land him'. I still suspect that he'd choose trophies over wages but city is probably right in the middle of both so I can see why he'd say city is my preferred destination.
 
I personally think we will miss out on Sanchez. Whilst we have signed some of their better players in the past, I cannot fathom why they would let their star player join a direct rival. If they were to sell Sanchez to us, you could argue that their odds of finishing in the four would have markedly reduced. For a player of Sanchez's quality, you would have to surmise that there would be many interested parties.

If the other option was to let him go for free and let him sabotage next season I think it makes a lot of sense to sell to a rival. This is Alexis Sanchez we are talking about. You have to factor that in. Can you imagine what he would do to the dressing room next season if they forced him to stay.
 
What would he do to a dressing room. Repaint it?

He never struck me as a disruptive player. Looked more like a committed one.
 
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You are on two threads saying he a wrong un.
Do you want him at City?

Me personally I not arsed. He comes he comes. If not so what. Plenty other good players about. I trust Pep knows what he is doing.
 
If the other option was to let him go for free and let him sabotage next season I think it makes a lot of sense to sell to a rival. This is Alexis Sanchez we are talking about. You have to factor that in. Can you imagine what he would do to the dressing room next season if they forced him to stay.

I would be delighted if we were to sign him. I just don't seem to share the same levels of confidence that he will be a city player as seemingly most other blues do.
 
Hmm Walther Junghans might actually know something. He is part of the old Bayern boys network. Would interest me what @Maldeika thinks.

That goes far back into my youth when he was goalkeeper at Bayern...

I cannot tell much about his abilities as a coach. Bayern is not really profilic in getting good goalkeepers out of their youth players. Früchtl is a good one - but he is in every training with Neuer, Starke and Tapalovic and I do not think he gets extra goalkeeper training with his youth team. The best goalkeeper coaches in Germany's youth Schalke seems to have with Stuttgart following close.

Starke - our third goalkeeper will be goalkeeper coach in the new NLZ (youth performance center) Bayern opens starting August. He will still be part of the Asia tour of the professionals as Neuer, Früchtl and Ulreich are still injured but then will start his new job. I can imagine that we try to get modern goalkeepers. Pep has left Gerland (Bayern's assistant coach who takes up the job as youth leader now - he is the guy who brought up Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Müller, Hamann, Hummels etc.) a big book with notices about training forms etc. and a youth concept - our U17 and U19 who play for the German championship right now (or were second) play like a Guardiola team...

Somehow a lot of our backroom staff leaves in recent times. Liverpool got some of it, the youth coach department was totally revamped, the rehab leader leaves to Gladbach, some phyios left... - do not know what I should be thinking about that.
 
I am not up to date on the squad rules- why would a HG player have to be sold, specifically? I understand the cap on foreign players, but is there one on HG as well?
4, if we have a full quota in the non home grown, any more than 4 comes off the 17 non homegrown spots. So we could have say 5 homegrown and 16 non homegrown. Club trained can be used to take the squad up to 25.
 
Open feud. Who wants to talk about reality

You are on two threads saying he a wrong un.
Do you want him at City?

Me personally I not arsed. He comes he comes. If not so what. Plenty other good players about. I trust Pep knows what he is doing.

Of course I want him at City. He is one of the best attackers in the Prem.
 
4, if we have a full quota in the non home grown, any more than 4 comes off the 17 non homegrown spots. So we could have say 5 homegrown and 16 non homegrown. Club trained can be used to take the squad up to 25.

So you could have more than 4 HG, but the idea is in general there are not 5+ HG players that are good enough to sacrifice the foreign players? You want to maintain as many available spots for foreign players as possible. Makes sense.
 
So you could have more than 4 HG, but the idea is in general there are not 5+ HG players that are good enough to sacrifice the foreign players? You want to maintain as many available spots for foreign players as possible. Makes sense.

That's also just for CL that it's 17 + 4 + 4 (free + HG + club trained). The PL is less strict with just 17 + 8 (free + HG). Both allow unlimited U21 players but the CL stipulates that they must have been registered with the club for at least 2 years (if not they have to be included in the 25 man A list squad).

Essentially we could hypothetically have all 5 of Walker, Bertrand, Stones, Delph and Sterling registered for the PL but one of those (or a foreign player that would normally take a free spot) would have to drop out for the CL.
 
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