It's quiet... summer 2018.

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ojeme said:
I think the guy is trying to say even though Fernandinho is the best at doing the role at the moment, there is still room for improvement. Right now the best Pep can do is to introduce tweaks to cope with the challenge like dropping KDB a little deeper than usual.
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I'm sure he could try a different kind of player in that position.

He has however waited for two years of a 3 year contract to do so & has said he thinks the current player in that position is one of the best few in the world.

And imo it wasn't creative passes from deep which cost us the last 3 games, it was lack of a solid defensive unit.
 
Andrew___K said:
Weigl excels in short passing game, he has amazing footwork. I think when teams are getting at us like Liverpool, the best way out is outpassing the press, holding the ball better, not running and tackling more. At least that's what Pep (and Cruyff) used to do at Barcelona. You don't need defensive specialists ("kantes") if you hold the ball well, as their individual capabilities are replaced by collective pressing. If the team loses the ball less often, it means the amount of defensive work becomes lower. Simple but effective.
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If he can do that & also cover against players with pace on the break etc then fine.

But I haven't been very impressed with him in that situation when I've watched him.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I'm sure he could try a different kind of player in that position.

He has however waited for two years of a 3 year contract to do so & has said he thinks the current player in that position is one of the best few in the world.

And imo it wasn't creative passes from deep which cost us the last 3 games, it was lack of a solid defensive unit.
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Yes he hasn't needed to shake up things because 1) there were more pressing needs and 2) for the better part of his time here Dinho has been very solid. Even last year, we had Yaya sharing the job with him who did fairly well but whose legs are now gone. We cannot wait for Fernandonho's legs to give up before we shake up things. I'm fairly certain that Pep will bring in a DM this window but your guess as to who is as good as mine.

The fact that he hasn't had to bring in a DM doesn't automatically suggest that he wouldn't need one now.

I know that Pep played with Vidal and Alonso at Bayern (sometimes individually and sometimes together) and so he may not be uptight about the player needing to have a great passing range but if we can find one who excels I'm the defensive aspects and yet has that extra weapon of a better passing range, we will do well to go for such a player rather than say Fernandinho can do the job. Afterall Fernandinho should not be made to do it all alone all season long at his age.
 
ak93city said:
Strawman.

Doesn't one bit refute his limited passing range and vulnerability to the press.

I didn't mention defensive frailties about Dinho.
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@Neville Kneville has a tendency for these strawmen statements.


Not only didn't it refute the claim you made, it is also exaggerated and borderline false.

Fernandihno was not "doing an unusual amount of defending"... For fuck sajes, City possessed the ball at a higher rate than any club in the world. So no one at City (and that Includes Fernandihno) was doing that much defending.

I mean no City player.... I repeat no City player was in the top 100 in any of the following categories.

In tackles attempted, tackles made, double teams, ariel duels won and Interceptions.

The reason why this is true is because we had the ball so much that none of these situations occurred enough against us for any of or players to be relevant at it.

So, No! Fernandihno wasn't running up and doing an unreasonable amount of defending. That belief is equal parts false and laughable.

Busquets has spent more time running around trying to defend than Dihno has this season. These are just verifiable facts.

The reason why being great defensively as a DM isn't that important to how we play is inherent in the facts and stats from this season.

Dihno is fantastic and did a supremely good job this season. But one of the weaknesses in his game, is technical comfortability under pressure, and movement under pressure.

TrufT is we won't see enough of it often all season, but in 6-7 games a season (and a majority in the CL final stages) these pressure styled teams will crack us every now and again if Dihno is the DM for those games.
 
Dax777 said:
@Neville Kneville has a tendency for these strawmen statements.


Not only didn't it refute the claim you made, it is also exaggerated and borderline false.
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He does seem to be leaning on the emotional side of things when arguing :/

I also remember arguing with him about Otamendi before the start of the season, where I highlighted how Otamendi (despite supposed flaws) was statistically one of the top CBs in the league in 16/17, and was good enough for City. All I got was "Otamendi's brain-dead and statistics don't matter" in response, unfortunately.
 
My dream

In:
Isco
Fabinho
Zaha
Bertrand
Maffeo

Out:
Delph
Zinchenko
Gundogan
Danilo

Net spend: about £130m

Isco replaces Gundogan immediately improving the quality of our squad. Fabinho we get a physical DM that is tall, can pass and score. Zaha won’t be that expensive and can cover both wings. Bertrand with Southampton going down he will be available for a good price. Sell Delph and Zinchenko both of which aren’t LBs and bring in a specialist LB in Bertrand that can actually cross the ball and provide some competition to Mendy. Maffeo brought back to replace Danilo. Should be challenging Walker after a season and will only improve further.
 
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