Lovren was one of the top centre backs in the world. I know this, he said it himself
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It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition
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ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN
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Thought it was Euros
The continental name is Euro
You can shove it up your arse
If your that way inclined
LongsightM13
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Surely if he wants to save his career, both as a Premier League player and as an England international ahead of the Euros next summer, he would need to face facts and accept he needs to take a step back to move forward. That said, given the mess he has made of his life away from football, I’m not sure decision making is his strongest asset.Or West Ham paying his £150k a week wages!
Top earner earns less than £90k.
Don't take it for certain Stones will leave. Unless someone comes up with a decent offer, City would rather extend his deal and protect themselves.
Yikes!Or West Ham paying his £150k a week wages!
Top earner earns less than £90k.
Don't take it for certain Stones will leave. Unless someone comes up with a decent offer, City would rather extend his deal and protect themselves.
Won’t we face the same problem with Otamendi?
tolmie's hairdoo
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Yikes!
Won’t we face the same problem with Otamendi?
Otamendi is far less an issue.
Earns considerably less than Stones and out of contract next summer.
He can count on a lot more suitors abroad than Stones has in England.
I think we would be foolish to sell Stones this summer. Garcia is not as good at this time and might never be.
mosssideblue
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As always, a player can be valued at anything, but his true value is only what someone is willing to pay, and current wages, injuries etc will be a factorLovren goes for £11m and yet we'll only get £20m for an England International, I know he's had his issues but not having that.
Should be at least £25m, very least. I suspect wages will be an issue as usual when we are trying to shift players.
God, I hope not. Can't move him this summer because he's on £150k a week? Better sign him up for longer.Or West Ham paying his £150k a week wages!
Top earner earns less than £90k.
Don't take it for certain Stones will leave. Unless someone comes up with a decent offer, City would rather extend his deal and protect themselves.
It's unclear to me why exactly he'd be worth significantly more than £20m? He's been off and on injured for two seasons now, when he does play he's seemingly good for one calamity a game, and more recently he's been benched by a 19 year old. Then you add on his wages, higher than the top earners at any club outside the top six, and the fact that he's been playing in a system that few other teams will play. Oh, and the market is depressed this summer.As always, a player can be valued at anything, but his true value is only what someone is willing to pay, and current wages, injuries etc will be a factor
My mistake. I was under the impression that Otamendi’s contract expired in 2022. He must be close to being on six figures a week though.Otamendi is far less an issue.
Earns considerably less than Stones and out of contract next summer.
He can count on a lot more suitors abroad than Stones has in England.
I think we would be foolish to sell Stones this summer. Garcia is not as good at this time and might never be.
simon23
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Otamendi is far less an issue.
Earns considerably less than Stones and out of contract next summer.
He can count on a lot more suitors abroad than Stones has in England.
I think we would be foolish to sell Stones this summer. Garcia is not as good at this time and might never be.
Think you are spot on TH and Ive said itseveral times myself.
Stones is the better centre half of the two (esp in the premiership) - If Barca want Garcia Id sell him in a heartbeat - he is good but I tiink long term he will struggle int he premiership- playing for Barca in a two horse league most weeks will be more suited to him.
If we can get Stones head right and bring in Ake and Koulibaly (or even plan B to him whoeever that might be) and sell Garcia and Ota then our centre half options look considerably stronger
mosssideblue
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I agree with you budIt's unclear to me why exactly he'd be worth significantly more than £20m? He's been off and on injured for two seasons now, when he does play he's seemingly good for one calamity a game, and more recently he's been benched by a 19 year old. Then you add on his wages, higher than the top earners at any club outside the top six, and the fact that he's been playing in a system that few other teams will play. Oh, and the market is depressed this summer.
Otamendi is far less an issue.
Earns considerably less than Stones and out of contract next summer.
He can count on a lot more suitors abroad than Stones has in England.
I think we would be foolish to sell Stones this summer. Garcia is not as good at this time and might never be.
Might be foolish for us to sell Stones this summer but if he wants back in at England he needs to go.
mosssideblue
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I'd go the other way bud and say it would be foolish not to sell him if an opportunity arises.Might be foolish for us to sell Stones this summer but if he wants back in at England he needs to go.
nmc
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Otamendi is far less an issue.
Earns considerably less than Stones and out of contract next summer.
He can count on a lot more suitors abroad than Stones has in England.
I think we would be foolish to sell Stones this summer. Garcia is not as good at this time and might never be.
Maybe extend Stones and loan him to Arsenal - a year getting regular football might rehabilitate him and get him in the England squad ahead of the Euro's.
OB1
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Otamendi is far less an issue.
Earns considerably less than Stones and out of contract next summer.
He can count on a lot more suitors abroad than Stones has in England.
I think we would be foolish to sell Stones this summer. Garcia is not as good at this time and might never be.
I'd rather keep Stones than Garcia.
I'd go the other way bud and say it would be foolish not to sell him if an opportunity arises.
I personally want him gone but think Tolmie had a point. But Stones needs to go, best for both parties imo
Otamendi is far less an issue.
Earns considerably less than Stones and out of contract next summer.
He can count on a lot more suitors abroad than Stones has in England.
I think we would be foolish to sell Stones this summer. Garcia is not as good at this time and might never be.
Just checking , but is Otamendi not in contract until June 2022 ?
In all seriousness, why would Stones consider signing a new deal? He's gonna be 4th choice at best after this summer it seems if he does stay and if he has any hopes of being a starter in the euros then he would have to move. Arsenal would be a perfect move for him i think and they would probably be one of the few sides to pay him wages hed want.Maybe extend Stones and loan him to Arsenal - a year getting regular football might rehabilitate him and get him in the England squad ahead of the Euro's.
Because he can lock in £150k a week for another 5 years?In all seriousness, why would Stones consider signing a new deal? He's gonna be 4th choice at best after this summer it seems if he does stay and if he has any hopes of being a starter in the euros then he would have to move. Arsenal would be a perfect move for him i think and they would probably be one of the few sides to pay him wages hed want.
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