It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[AustinBlue]

All I see n sky is what a fantastic deal Ronaldo to Rags is, all we’ve done is help their media train. They will always be the bigger draw until we make the massive deals happen. we can still win the trophies and put these w***ers we’re they belong.

One day maybe we can finish higher than them in the league.

 

[onceabluealways]

One day maybe we can finish higher than them in the league.

I agree and long may it continue

 

[Patrick keegan kid]

I’m looking forward to the biggest ego in world football
getting orders from the the most clueless coach in world football with the world of football watching live and exclusive on sky fucking sports....

Meanwhile over at City....

 

[bumbleblue]

£70 + million for a couple of years lol…no wonder we fucked off. Right decision. Back to the drawing board.

 

[onceabluealways]

Unless we sign Harland then our window will seem like a serious disappointment. Hope the season isn’t the same

 

[Matt.D]

Your post reeks of underestimating how difficult it is to attain top quality players, elite level is so hard to secure.

You are also belittling the clubs expertise in identifying players with real potential.
This M.O. has made our club the most successful of the last decade by some margin.

We won the league last year because the squad Pep built came together in spectacular fashion. They played as a team. It wasn't just Pep; same as it wasn't just Pep on his own that lost the chumps final.

You speak about the club as if it is a session you had on Championship Manager. It's not a game. Real football club running is fucking nails to get right. And we get it right waaay more than wrong.

So, bookmark away. Because if the suits make a call I'll trust they have done it for the best interests of the

Your post reeks of underestimating how difficult it is to attain top quality players, elite level is so hard to secure.

You are also belittling the clubs expertise in identifying players with real potential.
This M.O. has made our club the most successful of the last decade by some margin.

We won the league last year because the squad Pep built came together in spectacular fashion. They played as a team. It wasn't just Pep; same as it wasn't just Pep on his own that lost the chumps final.

You speak about the club as if it is a session you had on Championship Manager. It's not a game. Real football club running is fucking nails to get right. And we get it right waaay more than wrong.

So, bookmark away. Because if the suits make a call I'll trust they have done it for the best interests of the club.

Dress it up however you like and refer to it as championship manager but other clubs have got the fucking deals done. And when they haven’t they’ve moved on to alternative A-list targets (see Chelsea & Lukaku).

You’ve ignored the superleague and the Mendy stuff which the “suits” clearly got wrong.

Sure, the players played a huge part last season but peps staff telling him last season was his masterpiece was because he did it with basically one arm tied behind his back in that he didn’t have a (fit) clinical goal scorer in the whole squad. We just won’t get away with that again when our rivals are all a lot stronger. Of course we will be up there, but imo we will drop way too many points in head to head v United, Liverpool & Chelsea due to the lack of a top forward. DM is also a problem in them games but a top striker would have probably compensated for it.

The recruitment department have let Pep, the squad and the fans down. And Khaldoon after that end of season interview needs to take his share of the blame too.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Would love Haaland to sign now out of the blue.

Some would say that we've already been priced out and that there's no way that we can compelte a deal of that magnitude in *checks calander* THREE DAYS?!
But fuck it, I'm an optimist, and Txiki needs to pull a rabbit out of his ass.

Or, who knows? Pep might just be a masochist and enjoy the challange of handicapping himself in strange ways and secretly tells omar to pull the plug

 

[TonyM]

Re Ronaldo...United are a bigger draw for players. For many reasons. So it's not surprising that when players have the choice, many will choose them. It only hurts for a small while every so often.

The rest of the time we show why we are a better club. Mostly because we aren't as deluded and arrogant.

That said over the past year I've noticed that I can't voice some honest opinions without the height of abuse. We have developed a bit of a cult nearly as bad as Liverpool fans. I don't know why or how it happened. And it's not just the young new fans. There seems to be plenty of older people too that are just dying to tell others how stupid and worthless they are. These days it seems perfectly acceptable to be unnecessarily and excessively rude. I don't remember it being like that years ago. We just disagreed. No probs.

I don't understand all the accusations when none of us know really what goes on. Can't we just assume the best of the people running the club? Generally they are only doing the best job they can do and I for one appreciate their efforts.

I'm looking forward to the window closing and getting back to discussing which players or tactics we think are crap or brilliant because of what we see with our own eyes.

(If you think I'm a piece of shit for voicing my opinions please ignore me. Or just disagree and give your opinion. PLEASE don't be rude to me or anyone else because you don't know how people carry that around afterwards.)

 

[Pam]

Will we make a bid for Kane in the future one more time? any thought?

God, no.

 

[Homar]

Re Ronaldo...United are a bigger draw for players. For many reasons. So it's not surprising that when players have the choice, many will choose them. It only hurts for a small while every so often.

The rest of the time we show why we are a better club. Mostly because we aren't as deluded and arrogant.

That said over the past year I've noticed that I can't voice some honest opinions without the height of abuse. We have developed a bit of a cult nearly as bad as Liverpool fans. I don't know why or how it happened. And it's not just the young new fans. There seems to be plenty of older people too that are just dying to tell others how stupid and worthless they are. These days it seems perfectly acceptable to be unnecessarily and excessively rude. I don't remember it being like that years ago. We just disagreed. No probs.

I don't understand all the accusations when none of us know really what goes on. Can't we just assume the best of the people running the club? Generally they are only doing the best job they can do and I for one appreciate their efforts.

I'm looking forward to the window closing and getting back to discussing which players or tactics we think are crap or brilliant because of what we see with our own eyes.

(If you think I'm a piece of shit for voicing my opinions please ignore me. Or just disagree and give your opinion. PLEASE don't be rude to me or anyone else because you don't know how people carry that around afterwards.)

I disagree that United are a bigger draw, but I absolutely agree with everything else. We're all presenting opinions. It's fine to respectfully disagree with someone or ignore what they wrote. I don't understand why some on here feel the need to throw childish insults just because they disagree with what someone has written. It only reflects badly on themselves.

 

[Daz_Blue]

If Utd were the bigger draw then why did they not just offer Ronaldo 250,000 a week like our offer was apparently instead of 480,000 a week like they are supposed to be paying him ..... surely the draw and not the cash are the most important.

 

[sky_blue]

If Utd were the bigger draw then why did they not just offer Ronaldo 250,000 a week like our offer was apparently instead of 480,000 a week like they are supposed to be paying him ..... surely the draw and not the cash are the most important.

872k per week…

 

[Pam]

For all the Rag lurkers, you've just spent over 70 million on a player that will be in need of a zimmer frame after 10 games of the new season. Siuuuuu on that, suckers.

 

[p.taker]

United are a bigger draw because Ronaldo is going back there at 37? Um, dohkay

 

[kupest]

Re Ronaldo...United are a bigger draw for players. For many reasons. So it's not surprising that when players have the choice, many will choose them. It only hurts for a small while every so often.

I totally disagree with this part. Get Messi to choose one of us and you know which club is the bigger draw currently. Ronaldo obviously would prefer the Rags. Grealish infact chose us when I think he could have very well moved there last year.
We do tend to do well without having a marquee signing (Kdb wasn't one when he signed). There should be value in the market just like Dias. Though we have to accept that we are going into the season with no changes except the addition of Grealish. I am hoping that not having Aguero will affect us positively, since Pep will train exclusively for a false 9. An injured Aguero is a bigger issue than no Aguero since we don't have to train/think about another formation with him. I think Torres and Sterling have to have a massive season. Those are the two players who can do better than their last one and combined with Grealish hopefully we can score enough.

 

[kupest]

If Utd were the bigger draw then why did they not just offer Ronaldo 250,000 a week like our offer was apparently instead of 480,000 a week like they are supposed to be paying him ..... surely the draw and not the cash are the most important.

Rags definitely arnt a bigger draw. It's Ronaldo so obviously it's an different scenario. That said the wages arnt too bad. It's has to be expected that the likes of Ronaldo/Messi will be the highest earners in the league. Cavani is going to be pissed though. Rags will also be looking to replacing a lot of players soon (loads above 30).
I would anyday choose Mbappe over these players but that is not happening either. Funnily enough with Rags tied with Ronaldo for 2 years, don't think they can go for Haaland/Kane.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Re Ronaldo...United are a bigger draw for players. For many reasons. So it's not surprising that when players have the choice, many will choose them. It only hurts for a small while every so often.

The rest of the time we show why we are a better club. Mostly because we aren't as deluded and arrogant.

That said over the past year I've noticed that I can't voice some honest opinions without the height of abuse. We have developed a bit of a cult nearly as bad as Liverpool fans. I don't know why or how it happened. And it's not just the young new fans. There seems to be plenty of older people too that are just dying to tell others how stupid and worthless they are. These days it seems perfectly acceptable to be unnecessarily and excessively rude. I don't remember it being like that years ago. We just disagreed. No probs.

I don't understand all the accusations when none of us know really what goes on. Can't we just assume the best of the people running the club? Generally they are only doing the best job they can do and I for one appreciate their efforts.

I'm looking forward to the window closing and getting back to discussing which players or tactics we think are crap or brilliant because of what we see with our own eyes.

(If you think I'm a piece of shit for voicing my opinions please ignore me. Or just disagree and give your opinion. PLEASE don't be rude to me or anyone else because you don't know how people carry that around afterwards.)

The times when the Rags are a bigger pull are those that have little to do with football but predominantly involve money.That being the case,there are very few,if any......that i wish we would have signed instead.

The very best,those with an ambition to better themselves and not their bank balance,will choose City every time - as Grealish has just proved.

 

[jonah62]

If Utd were the bigger draw then why did they not just offer Ronaldo 250,000 a week like our offer was apparently instead of 480,000 a week like they are supposed to be paying him ..... surely the draw and not the cash are the most important.

Exactly !!!
If you love the club so much, agree to the same contract that you’d allegedly agreed to at the Etihad.
United have been fucked royally on this deal.

 

[better dead than red]

Its not stupid it's backed up.

Sterling was top 5 for missed chances

None of the front three were in the top 10 for assists and Goals. Highest goal scorer Gundogan midfielder, KDB highest assister but had his worst season for how many assists he got. Jesus, Torres, Sterling or Mahrez were not in the top 20 for Goals or assists.

Sterling 10 goals
Mahrez 9 goals
Jesus 9 goals
Torres 7 goals

Harry Kane	Tottenham	23
2	Mohamed Salah	Liverpool	22
3	Bruno Fernandes	Man Utd	18
=4	Son Heung-min	Tottenham	17
=4	Patrick Bamford	Leeds United	17
6	Dominic Calvert-Lewin	Everton	16
7	Jamie Vardy	Leicester	15
8	Ollie Watkins	Aston Villa	14
=9	Alexandre Lacazette	Arsenal	13
=9	Ilkay Gundogan	Man City	13
=11	Chris Wood	Burnley	12
=11	Callum Wilson	Newcastle	12
=11	Danny Ings	Southampton	12
=11	Kelechi Iheanacho	Leicester	12
=15	Marcus Rashford	Man Utd	11
=15	Wilfried Zaha	Crystal Palace	11
=15	Matheus Pereira	West Brom	11
=15	Sadio Mane	Liverpool	11
=15	Gareth Bale	Tottenham	11
=20	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang	Arsenal	10
=20	Raheem Sterling	Man City	10
=20	Tomas Soucek	West Ham	10
=20	Michail Antonio	West Ham	10
=20	Edinson Cavani	Man Utd	10
=20	Christian Benteke	Crystal Palace	10
=20	Anwar El Ghazi	Aston Villa	10
=20	Nicolas Pepe	Arsenal	10

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Our Defence won us that title.

But, but, but Raz is worth £100 million. We should never let him go for less!

Look, I like Raheem. He is a very good human being. He's an above average footballer. He hasnt been extremely good for 1.5 years, at least.

Do I wish he was great? Yes. Is he,? Not recently. Msy be an unpopular opinion but I wish we'd never bought him. Why? Without that transfer fee it is my understanding lolpool would have gone into administration.

If Raz was still ripping up trees here (he's not) I'd say keep him. He maybe needs a change of scenery. If he'd agree to it, I'd love a one year loan to a top club on the continent. He can then decide if the grass is greener.

 

[himalayan_blues]

I think this transfer window is affected by the kid who is a agent of harry kane. He convinced city tottenham will sell kane so city did not go after messi. So messi went to PSG. DUe to that Ronaldo went to United. Then Mbappe wants to go madrid. We went for kane so chelsea went for lukaku. Since we want kane aguero went to barca.
The butterfly effect is so so much....