It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[OB1]

I think that we’d have bought a striker even if Sergio stayed. I don’t think we are buying BECAUSE he’s leaving. He has not played much of a part in this season at all. In a way we had already moved on from him and we’re still in all competitions. Sergio has had practically zero influence on this season. For me it’s totally independent of him leaving. We are buying a striker because our finishing is gash in general, with or without Sergio.

I wouldn't disagree that we have moved on in many ways, including from Sergio, but Kun is starting today and he commends significant wages so I don't know if we would have bought a striker if he'd stayed; however, the fact that he is going leaves just exacerbates the need for a new centre forward.

 

[PrezIke]

If we’re not paying the fee for haaland we certainly ain’t paying for felix has that will be over £100 million .

You can read my epic post on why I feel Felix is more likely to be signed than Lukaku that answers this:

Harry Kane

If not Haaland,and not Kane.....where next? Felix?

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The idea he has to be the same Atleti paid for him doesn't make sense when you do the maths.

A) I'll reiterate the flaws I see with and respond to the argument I hear regularly that Atleti won't sell Felix for less than what they paid (€126m).

The maths regarding the loss of fee paid for Felix minus Griezmann's fee was -€6m, so why would it have to be no less than the €126m fee they paid for Felix? As an example, if Atleti sell Felix for €80m they get a €74m profit.

Then factor in less wages for Felix over 2 seasons and that 6m figure drops, compared to the cost of keeping Griezmann's higher wages.

 

[blue oli]

We've been sending messages all week.

To Sergio, to Mino, to Dortmund and others.

Most importantly, to our own squad.

The first art of negotiation is the other party being told you are willing to walk away.

It’s worth remembering that most football clubs are run by complete idiots who happen to have lucked out by being in the right industry at the right time. Very few are a patch on the professionalism at city, owners and the business leaders - believe me when I say they are ten steps ahead of everyone else in the industry.

 

[Paul1970]

You can read my epic post on why I feel Felix is more likely to be signed than Lukaku that answers this:

Harry Kane

If not Haaland,and not Kane.....where next? Felix?

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

The idea he has to be the same Atleti paid for him doesn't make sense when you do the maths.

How longs it gonna take ha

 

[Spanishbob]

pep interview 10.30pm embargo

pretty was what i was saying

Like his watch. :-)

 

[sniff]

We've been sending messages all week.

To Sergio, to Mino, to Dortmund and others.

Most importantly, to our own squad.

The first art of negotiation is the other party being told you are willing to walk away.

That's the bit I think I'm missing. If we let go Sergio without a replacement lined up... The selling club are going to know this. Im sure the world or agents is very chatty and they will be aware if City are dealing with another player. So how is that to our benefit unless an agreement is in place. We are the one's in desperate need or a Striker in that scenario. My first instinct was that we must have a worthy replacement already in the bag. If not, that leaves you massively exposed surely ?

It wouldn't be the first time I've completely missed the point in my life btw

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

That's the bit I think I'm missing. If we let go Sergio without a replacement lined up... The selling club are going to know this. Im sure the world or agents is very chatty and they will be aware if City are dealing with another player. So how is that to our benefit unless an agreement is in place. We are the one's in desperate need or a Striker in that scenario. My first instinct was that we must have a worthy replacement already in the bag. If not, that leaves you massively exposed surely ?

It wouldn't be the first time I've completely missed the point in my life btw

Thing is though we have played most of this season without a traditional CF

 

[PrezIke]

It’s worth remembering that most football clubs are run by complete idiots who happen to have lucked out by being in the right industry at the right time. Very few are a patch on the professionalism at city, owners and the business leaders - believe me when I say they are ten steps ahead of everyone else in the industry.

This is a highly understated and underrated point about CFG management.

If you look at other professional sport leagues, even in the USA with wage caps, what is most often discussed as the most vital ingredient to any success is HOW WELL A CLUB IS RUN. Whether rich or poor.

Yes, a club's wealth is not irrelevant because no club can sustain being at the top without it, sadly, but that is the way it is.

HOWEVER, we can take a look at some "big" clubs have been tarnished by their poor management, hurting their reputations and outcomes on the pitch.

We have stuck to a model that I believe has benefited us, along with intelligent, well researched planning. I credit much of this to the Chairman, to identify the right scouts, managers, and coaches via the trust instilled in him by Sheikh Mansour.

The Chairman's clear professionalism and what I sense is willingness to work in a TEAM I believe is WHY we landed Txiki, Soriano and Pep. Not just because we had the most money to pay them. Pep is not here for that.

Even though we started as wild spenders after the takeover, the key, signings between 2008-11 were incredibly impressive, some made under the radar.

When Txiki and Soriano joined, yes some errors were made, but they were the one's to facilitate the transition to where we are now.

Again, there have been mistakes, but the signings we've made when knowingly operating at a loss is what is called investment in business.

Yes, Pep is pretty much a god of football management and we will miss him "so, so much" when he goes, but the foundations for the future are there and the intelligence in leadership within the club strikes me as reason to see a brighter future than some of our rivals that merely having the most wealth would not assure us of.

 

[1961_vintage]

It’s worth remembering that most football clubs are run by complete idiots who happen to have lucked out by being in the right industry at the right time. Very few are a patch on the professionalism at city, owners and the business leaders - believe me when I say they are ten steps ahead of everyone else in the industry.

It helps also that in their arrogance and delusion the vast majority of our rivals still think we've got Swalesy at the wheel.

 

[Berts Neck]

That's the bit I think I'm missing. If we let go Sergio without a replacement lined up... The selling club are going to know this. Im sure the world or agents is very chatty and they will be aware if City are dealing with another player. So how is that to our benefit unless an agreement is in place. We are the one's in desperate need or a Striker in that scenario. My first instinct was that we must have a worthy replacement already in the bag. If not, that leaves you massively exposed surely ?

It wouldn't be the first time I've completely missed the point in my life btw

A very interesting post.It relates to the psychology of a purchase.Agree with you, but am trying to understand the alternative.Say we had Mbappe, are you/we saying we could sign Haaland for less as we already have a great forward? Look at Mbappe/Neymar at PSG, having one didnt seem to make the other less expensive. Not sure this argument is correct, simply beacuase we are not the only club who needs a CF. I think it comes down to money,game time,trophy likelihood, affinity for the club and location, at least on the players part.

Love your name but hope you are not a snurge.

EDIT..one who sniffs bicycle seats !!!!