It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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akrh215 said:
Let's stop this nonsense, Berna doesn't make any risky passes, of course we keep the ball better, but KDB is the best player on the planet.Let's be happy that a good player like Kdb is playing for us and will most likely become a legend here. Say what you want but Berna has nothing to do with Kdb's level and I can't even say that Berna works harder than Kdb,because Kdb is the example of a player who can run the whole game and sprint even when he has to breathe on his ass. Top class player.
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Isn’t he already?
 
Vester said:
What have I missed? Why do people think getting rid of Bernardo would solve any of our problems? Are we really that desperate for a new toy?

In my opinion, Bernardo is a dream player to have in a squad. Never complains, works hard, top quality and versatile. We dont need the money, he has said nothing about wanting to leave, so why on earth would we sell him? Makes zero sense.
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No one has said we should, whats being discussed is if Bernardo wanted to move on as far as I can see.
simon23 said:
If there is a release clause there cannot be a bidding war....all any club has to do is match the release clause so Im guessing if that were to happen then Haaland would just decide on who he wanted to go to....basing it on whatever factors he deems most important...

I agree...Kane seems to be our target for what ever reason(s)

what Im saying is that If we are going to put 120m-150m on the table for Kane then we should do it for Haaland as it would be financial suicide for Dortmund to turn it down...
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Not suicide think financially they will sell Sancho and are fine
The question for Dortmund is what is Haaland worth to them for next season. I guess they will have a figure who knows what that is.
It might be € 50 mill so a bid over €125 mill is needed, but it could be its €75 mill so €150 is what they want this summer. They might decide to keep him at all costs.
In the end it’s down to Dortmund, we need to be prepared with other options, we might already know, fair chance we do.
 
blueparrot said:
No one has said we should, whats being discussed is if Bernardo wanted to move on as far as I can see.

Not suicide think financially they will sell Sancho and are fine
The question for Dortmund is what is Haaland worth to them for next season. I guess they will have a figure who knows what that is.
It might be € 50 mill so a bid over €125 mill is needed, but it could be its €75 mill so €150 is what they want this summer. They might decide to keep him at all costs.
In the end it’s down to Dortmund, we need to be prepared with other options, we might already know, fair chance we do.
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How do you think Haaland feels about Dortmund selling their joint best player and a huge supplier of Haalands goals?!

What every Haaland is worth next season it aint making up that potential 60-90m difference in transfer fees (and thats not including his wages....they aint winning the champs league and Bayern regualry dominate the Bundersleague....plus the Tv money over there aint nowhere near what it is here....therefore losing out on 60-90m worth of transfer fee (in a covid destroyed economy) is suicidal.
It is down to Dortmund...and we will have other options (Plan A,B and C etc) - Kane and Haaland will be the top 2 but potentially others as well.
 
simon23 said:
If there is a release clause there cannot be a bidding war....all any club has to do is match the release clause so Im guessing if that were to happen then Haaland would just decide on who he wanted to go to....basing it on whatever factors he deems most important...

I agree...Kane seems to be our target for what ever reason(s)

what Im saying is that If we are going to put 120m-150m on the table for Kane then we should do it for Haaland as it would be financial suicide for Dortmund to turn it down...
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I am not confident City will be prepared to put up £120m to £150m for either player. Personally, I hope we go all out for Haaland, who is younger and is an absolute beast of a striker who I think would score a shed load. However, Kane is an excellent player who will also guarantee goals, assists and is a very clever player. My main concern with Kane is that he is prone to ankle injuries.
 
completely irrelevant as he'll obviously be offered a new contract

but hey, clicks
 
simon23 said:
If there is a release clause there cannot be a bidding war....all any club has to do is match the release clause so Im guessing if that were to happen then Haaland would just decide on who he wanted to go to....basing it on whatever factors he deems most important...

I agree...Kane seems to be our target for what ever reason(s)

what Im saying is that If we are going to put 120m-150m on the table for Kane then we should do it for Haaland as it would be financial suicide for Dortmund to turn it down...
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Bidding war with his dad and Raiola.

You keep saying this, it is pretty obvious we are about to throw 120m+ on a striker unless we think Kane is going to be cheaper because we have Ake or someone to offer so there is a reason we are not putting it on the table for Haaland.
 
Withnail said:
I am not confident City will be prepared to put up £120m to £150m for either player. Personally, I hope we go all out for Haaland, who is younger and is an absolute beast of a striker who I think would score a shed load. However, Kane is an excellent player who will also guarantee goals, assists and is a very clever player. My main concern with Kane is that he is prone to ankle injuries.
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agree with all of that...

My other concerns about Kane (along with his ankle injuries) are that he aint particualrly mobile and cannot play across the front 3 ---haaland can

Haaland has pace that frightens defences......I know we dont often play like that but there are plenty moments in a season and esp when playing the bigger teams that we can use it...its just another string to our bow...how many times have Gabby, Sterling Mahrez fucked up a chance to break quickly....Haaland is very good at this..Kane isnt.

Commitment and attitude....Haaland has the personality and would be committed....would Kane.??..Spurs fan through and through....doesnt ever do well against the best teams (Haaland at least created an assist in games against us that we dominated)...Kane doesnt grab games by the scruff of the neck.....Haaland can and would do.

Age

Off the pitch: Marketability.
 
decmancity said:
Bidding war with his dad and Raiola.

You keep saying this, it is pretty obvious we are about to throw 120m+ on a striker unless we think Kane is going to be cheaper because we have Ake or someone to offer so there is a reason we are not putting it on the table for Haaland.
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we could waver the sell on fee for Sancho....win win
 
On the striker subject, imo we are happy to try to get some form of price for Kane sorted, as it helps flush out Dortmund and whether they are going to be stubborn and hold onto Haaland and lose money.

Hypothetically, we ”agree” a few with Spuds for say £120mil (with or without makeweights going opposite way) and then we turn round to Dortmund and say “this £120mil is yours if you want it, otherwise it’s going to Levy/Spurs for Harry. Make your decision quick style.”

I’ve just got a sneaky suspicion that all is not lost yet with getting Haaland out of Dortmund this summer.
 
simon23 said:
we could waver the sell on fee for Sancho....win win
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With the price he is going to go for I don't think Dortmund are bothered however like I said, I would be very surprised if the reason we aren't going for Haaland is financial.
 
Rammy Blue said:
On the striker subject, imo we are happy to try to get some form of price for Kane sorted, as it helps flush out Dortmund and whether they are going to be stubborn and hold onto Haaland and lose money.

Hypothetically, we ”agree” a few with Spuds for say £120mil (with or without makeweights going opposite way) and then we turn round to Dortmund and say “this £120mil is yours if you want it, otherwise it’s going to Levy/Spurs for Harry. Make your decision quick style.”

I’ve just got a sneaky suspicion that all is not lost yet with getting Haaland out of Dortmund this summer.
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Either that or our number one target is Harry Kane ;)
 
Rammy Blue said:
On the striker subject, imo we are happy to try to get some form of price for Kane sorted, as it helps flush out Dortmund and whether they are going to be stubborn and hold onto Haaland and lose money.

Hypothetically, we ”agree” a few with Spuds for say £120mil (with or without makeweights going opposite way) and then we turn round to Dortmund and say “this £120mil is yours if you want it, otherwise it’s going to Levy/Spurs for Harry. Make your decision quick style.”

I’ve just got a sneaky suspicion that all is not lost yet with getting Haaland out of Dortmund this summer.
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I really hope you’re right.
 
decmancity said:
With the price he is going to go for I don't think Dortmund are bothered however like I said, I would be very surprised if the reason we aren't going for Haaland is financial.
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Why wouldnt Dortmund be bothered....if they sell for 100m....15% sell on fee is 15m to us or that they can keep.....again thats a lot of money to clubs who are desperate due to covid...plus 120-150m for Haaland.....
Thats a minumum total of around 135m that Dormund could have off us/earn.....compared to potentially 65m (I think thats the clause that kicks in next year)....thats a potential loss of 70m - board members, share owners etc will care about that sort of loss....No way keeping Haaland for one more year gets them that back
 
Rammy Blue said:
On the striker subject, imo we are happy to try to get some form of price for Kane sorted, as it helps flush out Dortmund and whether they are going to be stubborn and hold onto Haaland and lose money.

Hypothetically, we ”agree” a few with Spuds for say £120mil (with or without makeweights going opposite way) and then we turn round to Dortmund and say “this £120mil is yours if you want it, otherwise it’s going to Levy/Spurs for Harry. Make your decision quick style.”

I’ve just got a sneaky suspicion that all is not lost yet with getting Haaland out of Dortmund this summer.
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Im really hoping that is the case.....its gone very quiet on Haaland....however its also gone quiet mostly on Kane accept these speculative reports on the ammount Spurs supposedly want for him (which anyone could easily take a complete random guess at if we are being honest)
 
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