It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[DMA's]

I’ve said it before and I will say it again. You can literally buy haaland and hope one day he will be as good as kane or buy Kane. Seems pretty obvious decision to me

 

[BillyShears]

Nothing will happen re Kane until England get knocked out of the euros or even win it (yeah i just said win it)

Thanks for the insight Daniel. Have you returned Ferran’s call yet ?

 

[HorlocksWalk]

I would just like to remind every Bony had a really good scoring record.

 

[dhruvblue]

We are linked with 18year old Metinho - described by Goal as the Brazilian Pail Pogba.
So he’s got a weird hair cut, nice boots but he’s a useless Cnut.

Its a done deal. He is going to Troyes

 

[simon23]

That’s not how the world works.

I’ll have another go.
Just read it through and I‘ll try to explain better this time.

If Haaland is worth €150M (that is to say that a club would be willing to pay €150M + whatever salary Haaland demanded etc.). And Dortmund got an offer at €150M, and wanted to sell him. Then they would need to get Haaland’s consent.
Haaland and his agent and Haaland’s dad would want to get as much out of the deal now as they would get if Haaland stayed until the agreed fee clause kicks in.
Why should they accept anything less?
So no, Dortmund are not better off selling Haaland now or next summer, because Dortmund don’t call the shots - Haaland, Raiola and Haaland’s dad do that.

Haaland, his agent and Haaland’s dad will always get their cut and Haaland will only ever be sold at his maximum market value.
If Dortmund has agreed a release clause of €65M, that kicks in next summer, and Haaland is valued at €150M next summer, then Haaland and his his entourage will pocket the difference between €65M and €150M = £85M.
If Haaland & Co were to agree to be sold this summer, it would only be because Haaland & Co were getting their £85M out of the deal, either as an €85M bite out of a €150M fee paid to Dortmund or by way of Dortmund getting €65M and Haaland & Co getting peripheral payments from the selling club to a combined value of €85M (signing on bonus, agents & advisor fees, increased salary to Haaland across the term of the deal etc.).

I don’t understand how anyone can think that there’s some magic spell that will induce Haaland, Raiola and Haaland’s dad to wave goodbye to even the smallest part of the €85M that will be their’s for the taking in 12 months.

In short; in a scenario where there is an agreement that Haaland can be sold for €65M next summer, and where Haaland has a market value of €150M, the buying club will always have to pay €150M in some way or other.
Haaland & Co will get €85M of that and Dortmund will get €65M of that.
That will remain the case until towards the end of Haaland’s contract when, if he were still worth €150M, the portion of that going to Dortmund would start to reduce and the portion going to Haaland & Co would increase.
At the end of the Haaland / Dortmund contract, when Haaland can walk on a free, if he still has a market value of €150M then that’s what the buying club will pay (in some way or other - signing on bonus, agents fees, ginormous salary etc.).

What the buying club is willing pay (total outlay, purchase fee, agents fee, dad’s bung fee, players salary etc). is the player’s market value.

What the buying club is willing to pay is based on their valuation, their valuation is subject to due diligence and it does not alter due to who gets what part of what the buying club is willing to pay.

In very short;
Haaland has a market value and the market value is what the buying club is willing to pay. Haaland, Raiola & Haaland’s dad will not relinquish one single brass farthing of their dues - they will get every last cent of it.
If he’s valued at €150M (more than one club interested at thereabouts) then that’s what the buying club will always have to pay either up front, or part up front and as various fees and bonuses throughout the contract term etc.
There are no discounts.
There are no magic spells.
Dortmund will only ever get the €65M that’s due to them, regardless of whether he’s sold this summer or next summer.

Does that help?

Yup understand all that.

What I question is that how it actually works?

 

[Deleted member 87819]

You can literally buy haaland and hope one day he will be as good as kane

You English people really overestimate Kane. It’s amazing. Haaland will easily surpass Kane and so will other younger players. I see quite a few strikers here in Brazil more tactically and technically apt than Kane appear and not get anywhere near the same praise. It’s telling that when you try to talk him up you mention the number of goals and assists but not really the features of his game — because it’s ordinary

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Its a done deal. He is going to Troyes

And he isn’t a “useless ****”

 

[Dazzle84]

We are linked with 18year old Metinho - described by Goal as the Brazilian Pail Pogba.
So he’s got a weird hair cut, nice boots but he’s a useless Cnut.

Got buckets of talent though

 

[richards30]

really dont see how it benefits Kane or Spurs dragging things out? No matter who they bring in unless they are going to spend £250-300m this summer then they will still be no nearer the trophies Kane wants straight away!? They would be better selling Kane before a manager comes in and then at least that person has cash and the whole Kane saga is done and dusted.

 

[supersonicblue]

You English people really overestimate Kane. It’s amazing. Haaland will easily surpass Kane and so will other younger players. I see quite a few strikers here in Brazil more tactically and technically apt than Kane appear and not get anywhere near the same praise. It’s telling that when you try to talk him up you mention the number of goals and assists but not really the features of his game — because it’s ordinary

What do you make of Gabriel Barbosa mate, do you think he could do it in the Premier League?

 

[City_Sean]

really dont see how it benefits Kane or Spurs dragging things out? No matter who they bring in unless they are going to spend £250-300m this summer then they will still be no nearer the trophies Kane wants straight away!? They would be better selling Kane before a manager comes in and then at least that person has cash and the whole Kane saga is done and dusted.

Spurs are broke. They've got a stadium that's spiralled them out of control debt wise, a squad that needs serious replenishment and a loan worth £135m that needs repaying.

They know they have to sell Kane. It'll happen soon.

 

[richards30]

Spurs are broke. They've got a stadium that's spiralled them out of control debt wise, a squad that needs serious replenishment and a loan worth £135m that needs repaying.

They know they have to sell Kane. It'll happen soon.

i agree mate, it would certainly benefit Kane and England if its done before the euros so it puts the speculation to bed and stops the media having click bait articles constantly.

 

[City_Sean]

i agree mate, it would certainly benefit Kane and England if its done before the euros so it puts the speculation to bed and stops the media having click bait articles constantly.

I think what's always worth noting with City is that we probably mistake the silence in the media for nothing going on.

In some cases the club is so water tight and well run that we simply don't brief journos. Our info comes from other clubs leaking.

Like I say I think Kane gets done soon. Spurs need the cash to start securing their own targets and Kane/City won't want it dragged out.

 

[Keeper!]

You English people really overestimate Kane. It’s amazing. Haaland will easily surpass Kane and so will other younger players. I see quite a few strikers here in Brazil more tactically and technically apt than Kane appear and not get anywhere near the same praise. It’s telling that when you try to talk him up you mention the number of goals and assists but not really the features of his game — because it’s ordinary

I am not one of Kane's biggest fans and would prefer we sign Haaland but Harry is not an ordinary footballer, he is a very, very good footballer.

His work rate, ability to hold up the ball and ability to pick a pass is very good and at this time, far better than Haaland.

 

[horlock_was_super]

I would just like to remind every Bony had a really good scoring record.

So did Samaras

 

[wolviedinho]

i agree mate, it would certainly benefit Kane and England if its done before the euros so it puts the speculation to bed and stops the media having click bait articles constantly.

This is exactly why it won’t be finished early. Levy will feed the vultures and in turn they will spin the Kane saga into a levy masterpiece.

 

[BAB.DAB]

This is exactly why it won’t be finished early. Levy will feed the vultures and in turn they will spin the Kane saga into a levy masterpiece.

What about the bank of England debt?

 

[Keeper!]

So did Samaras

So did Kun ,Djeko, Tevez, Ballotelli what's your point?

 

[BAB.DAB]

What about the bank of England debt?

Spurs owe money for transfers and will have to pay that or will be banned .

 

[decmancity]

You English people really overestimate Kane. It’s amazing. Haaland will easily surpass Kane and so will other younger players. I see quite a few strikers here in Brazil more tactically and technically apt than Kane appear and not get anywhere near the same praise. It’s telling that when you try to talk him up you mention the number of goals and assists but not really the features of his game — because it’s ordinary

What a load of nonsense.

We don't need any "features" of his game. We need someone who puts the ball in the net 20+ every season, Kane does that. Even Pep seems to be getting sick of all the fucking about we do in front of goal.