Jacinda Ardern

[JRockBlues]

NZ Virus free:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-52961539

Middle Earth is saved! Time for 2nd breakfast.

 

[blueinsa]

Middle Earth is saved! Time for 2nd breakfast.

I always thought huge hairy feet made you genetically able to shake the virus off or even be immune.

 

[George Hannah]

NZ prime Minister.
Complete opposite to Margaret Thatcher.....

Is she a man?

 

[journolud]

The comparisons between the two countries are valid, albeit with some caveats. They may well have a smaller population but that population is still concentrated in major cities. There is no doubt that they have handled the pandemic more decisively and more succesfully than we have.

Perhaps a fairer comparison is with Japan. The UK is about 64% the size of Japan with twice the population. I haven't really followed their response but the figures I've found suggest a much smaller death rate amongst a much older population.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/

https://fullfact.org/health/uk-japan-covid-comparison/

Still, this is the Jacinda Ardern thread; NZ are lucky to have her, we've got a fool in charge and a bunch of fools supporting him.

 

[Ban-jani]

The comparisons between the two countries are valid, albeit with some caveats. They may well have a smaller population but that population is still concentrated in major cities. There is no doubt that they have handled the pandemic more decisively and more succesfully than we have.

Perhaps a fairer comparison is with Japan. The UK is about 64% the size of Japan with twice the population. I haven't really followed their response but the figures I've found suggest a much smaller death rate amongst a much older population.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/

https://fullfact.org/health/uk-japan-covid-comparison/

Still, this is the Jacinda Ardern thread; NZ are lucky to have her, we've got a fool in charge and a bunch of fools supporting him.

The comparisons are ridiculous and I don’t say that to absolve anyone over here of anything.

When you say major cities Stockport would be the 3rd largest in their country.

Their largest is on a different island to their 2nd largest and they’d have 1 in our top 10.

Add to that London to Birmingham is a relatively short train journey away and our two largest population centres, respectively 8 times and 2 times larger than their biggest city.

England has 11 times more people than New Zealand with literally half the land mass.

People are welcome to say how good she’s been, she’s clearly a decent person but to compare is silly.

 

[west didsblue]

The comparisons are ridiculous and I don’t say that to absolve anyone over here of anything.

When you say major cities Stockport would be the 3rd largest in their country.

Their largest is on a different island to their 2nd largest and they’d have 1 in our top 10.

Add to that London to Birmingham is a relatively short train journey away and our two largest population centres, respectively 8 times and 2 times larger than their biggest city.

England has 11 times more people than New Zealand with literally half the land mass.

People are welcome to say how good she’s been, she’s clearly a decent person but to compare is silly.

A better comparison would be Ireland. Similar population and an island.

343 deaths per million compared to 4 in NZ.

 

[Ban-jani]

A better comparison would be Ireland. Similar population and an island.

343 deaths per million compared to 4 in NZ.

I understand but Ireland has Britain next door and shares a border with the UK, which could have impacted them.

She’s obviously done a decent job and she seems far too sensible to be a leader but if I had to pick any western country to lead in a pandemic, I’m picking New Zealand.

That’s quite a difference though.

 

[Shadz69]

I understand but Ireland has Britain next door and shares a border with the UK, which could have impacted them.

She’s obviously done a decent job and she seems far too sensible to be a leader but if I had to pick any western country to lead in a pandemic, I’m picking New Zealand.

That’s quite a difference though.

To be fair we are more than capable of fucking things up ourselves.

 

[JASR]

To be fair we are more than capable of fucking things up ourselves.

We did.
The comparisons between size/population/cities isn’t quite transferable, but the biggest single factor that helped NZ be better than over the UK response was locking down internally and across borders very quickly. We didn’t, we pfaffed, we paid the price.

With regards to other nations, island (like) nations, Japan, South Korea , Taiwan - they’ve had many other viruses (mers, sars, swine flu etc), they know that you need to lockdown quickly and how to do it effectively. and they also generally have a population that thinks about the country as a whole rather than selfishly.

 

[west didsblue]

We did.
The comparisons between size/population/cities isn’t quite transferable, but the biggest single factor that helped NZ be better than over the UK response was locking down internally and across borders very quickly. We didn’t, we pfaffed, we paid the price.

With regards to other nations, island (like) nations, Japan, South Korea , Taiwan - they’ve had many other viruses (mers, sars, swine flu etc), they know that you need to lockdown quickly and how to do it effectively. and they also generally have a population that thinks about the country as a whole rather than selfishly.

...which is why we needed proper leadership; a serious leader with gravitas who the vast majority of the population could respect. Instead we got fucking Johnson.