Jack Byrne

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Send the lad to New York. PV knows him and he will certainly get game time. A loan deal until the summer then we can have another look at his options.
 
meeesh said:
Are you spouting off cause the boss man has spoken ? Face the facts he's not been good enough to play for Blackburn,face fitting or not,they are shite,3rd bottom and struggling,or do you just look at Prem table and ignore all other football ? As much as people have a lot of faith in our youth players out on loan,there seems to be a few that are really struggling out there,so maybe they are not as good as some seem to think

Btw you are very uppity for a mod,does power go to your head ?
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Spouting off? The irony.....
As for fact,regarding the lads ability,nothing you posted comes under that category.His talent was there for all to see in Holland so his lack of playing time quite obviously isn't simply down to his ability.
As for 'uppity'.......Well if that means keeping an eye on, and challenging,characters like you,who like to put a negative slant on everything,and usually talk bollocks to achieve such.....Then I'll accept that.
 
domalino said:
MLS isn't on until mid march.
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I know that but he would need time to prepare with the team. Personally I would make a year loan, but suggested the summer in case it doesn't work out. I just feel playing for a manager that knows him may help him.
 
mad zab said:
Send the lad to New York. PV knows him and he will certainly get game time. A loan deal until the summer then we can have another look at his options.
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MLS would be great for his career and would be his level. He'd make a good career over there and would be able to gain a few Ireland caps in the process.
 
meeesh said:
Well let us see what happens next,but no game time hardly there,it can only mean going lower
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WNRH said:
MLS would be great for his career and would be his level. He'd make a good career over there and would be able to gain a few Ireland caps in the process.
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Regardless of whatever happened at Blackburn he's a talented and dedicated lad, he may not make it with us but that doesn't make him crap nowadays. He's at least Championship level and is certainly worth more then the MLS at this stage in his career.
 
Good to hear we're bringing Jack back, hopefully we sort him out with a better loan as Garcia isn't getting too much match time, Serie A maybe?

Coyle needs a kick in the teeth.
 
You know what with the way our teams have been performing at youth level and the players being sent out being some of the best of the bunch, clearly something is not right, it would be too easy to say oh they are simply not good enough we overrate them(we rate them because they were out performing their peers) if we send them on their way and they start making it at other clubs then we are missing something.

Maybe we are wrong expecting these clubs to be able to handle a young player making the step up from a talented youth to senior professional and they are expecting these kids to come in and transform their season with no effort or management required? If these teams can't do it then we are going to have to make sure they are ready before they go and expect no help from these other coaches.

I'm starting to see why maybe in the long run having sister clubs and relationships like with Girona FC could help our academy players make the step up much better than the options available to them.
 
Metalartin said:
You know what with the way our teams have been performing at youth level and the players being sent out being some of the best of the bunch, clearly something is not right, it would be too easy to say oh they are simply not good enough we overrate them(we rate them because they were out performing their peers) if we send them on their way and they start making it at other clubs then we are missing something.

Maybe we are wrong expecting these clubs to be able to handle a young player making the step up from a talented youth to senior professional and they are expecting these kids to come in and transform their season with no effort or management required? If these teams can't do it then we are going to have to make sure they are ready before they go and expect no help from these other coaches.

I'm starting to see why maybe in the long run having sister clubs and relationships like with Girona FC could help our academy players make the step up much better than the options available to them.
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There was a piece on the Sky site today which addressed this:

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...op-coaches-are-now-looking-for-a-new-solution
 
ColinLee said:
There was a piece on the Sky site today which addressed this:

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...op-coaches-are-now-looking-for-a-new-solution
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"When you look at the number of loans that happen here and there, the whole system has to be thought about again," argued Arsene Wenger last month. "It is one of the big problems in the modern game. The reflex is to stockpile the players. That's not right."

Arsene Wenger said that.

ARSENE FUCKING WENGER

The guy who invented, raiding other clubs for their best young talent & 'stockpiling' it. What has changed ? The same thing which changed wheh he started whinging about clubs spending money: City & Chelsea have become better at it than Arsenal, so we need new rules.
 
We need midfield cover. He did well in the eredvisie... let pep run his eye over him till the end of the month. Pep player for sure. Championship loans are shit. One poor game and they never play again.
 
balotelli's back pocket said:
We need midfield cover. He did well in the eredvisie... let pep run his eye over him till the end of the month. Pep player for sure. Championship loans are shit. One poor game and they never play again.
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I dont think its good for their development wither and not all about him having one bad game. He isnt suited to a team struggling at the bottom of the championship who are scrapping for every point and dont see masses of the ball. A mate of mine said he looked lost in the rovers games he played in, so its no real suprise he didnt feature much.
 
willipp said:
I dont think its good for their development wither and not all about him having one bad game. He isnt suited to a team struggling at the bottom of the championship who are scrapping for every point and dont see masses of the ball. A mate of mine said he looked lost in the rovers games he played in, so its no real suprise he didnt feature much.
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It doesn't surprise me that he looked lost. His game requires like minded players feeding him the ball & making the runs to recieve the pass from him. A lot of our kids have lost their way due to the same thing. We teach them to play one way then send them into an alien environment. Some can adapt, some are ruined.

David Silva would struggle in a lower league shit football team imo. Wheras Sterling wouldn't.

I recon Byrne would have been very close to our frst team level when he came back from Holland. No idea what he'll be like now, but if we can revitalise him, we have a viable first team squad player imo.
 
Hopefully we can get a decent draw in the FA Cup, and give him a run out at some point.
 
Neville Kneville said:
It doesn't surprise me that he looked lost. His game requires like minded players feeding him the ball & making the runs to recieve the pass from him. A lot of our kids have lost their way due to the same thing. We teach them to play one way then send them into an alien environment. Some can adapt, some are ruined.

David Silva would struggle in a lower league shit football team imo. Wheras Sterling wouldn't.

I recon Byrne would have been very close to our frst team level when he came back from Holland. No idea what he'll be like now, but if we can revitalise him, we have a viable first team squad player imo.
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Mooy is better and will have a greater chance of cracking our squad than Byrne. He counts as homegrown as well.
 
billymumphrey said:
Mooy is better and will have a greater chance of cracking our squad than Byrne. He counts as homegrown as well.
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I'm sure Pep will have a look at him. He's bound to be better right now anyhow, as he's been playing senior football for years.

i imagine Jack Rodwell or Gelson Fernandes would be better than Byrne if they started tomorrow.

Non of that is relevant to whether A: Jack could be a better player by now than he currently is, if he'd been playing in the right team & B: whether we can get him back on track for a fully deserved shot at our squad, which was the position in July.
 
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