Jadon Sancho

Neville Kneville said:
That's the point, it's not what's happening now which has created the problem. If we keep up the way we are going, we may repair it. Unfortunately, it probably won't rescue the Diaz situation, but we can't be perfect.

As regads the senior players, the perfect situation would be that one or two kids come through, are as good or better long term & replace a couple of them, so they do lose playing time as we go along & are then sold.
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I’m not entirely sure what the Diaz ‘situation’ actually is?
 
Proy said:
What type of player do you see him as? Do you think he’d be competing centrally or with Sterling/Sane/Mahrez?
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I don't see him as a wide player, although he can play there.

Imo Diaz is currently lacking a in a lot of areas, & how he improves that, determines what kind of player he ends up & how good he becomes. He doesn't have the extra pace of Sterling & Sané so he can never become someone who runs away from players like they do. So I don't think his ideal future position is wide.

But all the other stuff he lacks, could easily be down to playing kids football or often no competitive football, a lot of of the time.

If we look how Sterling has improved in football intelligence, final pass, finishing, the same improvement in Diaz in the coming years could see him become a top player in pretty much any creative position.

On the other hand, if he lacks the football brain to make those improvements, he would just be Joe Cole.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I don't see him as a wide player, although he can play there.

Imo Diaz is currently lacking a in a lot of areas, & how he improves that, determines what kind of player he ends up & how good he becomes. He doesn't have the extra pace of Sterling & Sané so he can never become someone who runs away from players like they do. So I don't think his ideal future position is wide.

But all the other stuff he lacks, could easily be down to playing kids football or often no competitive football, a lot of of the time.

If we look how Sterling has improved in football intelligence, final pass, finishing, the same improvement in Diaz in the coming years could see him become a top player in pretty much any creative position.

On the other hand, if he lacks the football brain to make those improvements, he would just be Joe Cole.
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I see him as a central player too. Perhaps a year too soon for Brahim, possibly 2. We are loaded in that area and it was a choice between him and Phil imo. One of them was always going and it was never going to be Phil.
 
Looks to have scored the winner in the Schalke-Dortmund derby:


At this rate he's going to be a big reason why Dortmund win the league.
 
MCFC1993 said:
Looks to have scored the winner in the Schalke-Dortmund derby:


At this rate he's going to be a big reason why Dortmund win the league.
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That's a great goal: trickery, pass, movement and finish. Sublime skill set.
 
This is the first full game I've watched of him for 6 weeks or so. He's already much better than Sané at the same age. The main difference is how much more involved Sancho is in games and how he's a big player for them. He's not just the kid doing well in the team, they actually look to him when they're in trouble and need a goal, and he delivers.
 
waspish said:
Yep could of peaked to soon :)
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Yeah it's no guarantee he'll be better at 21, or 25 or have a better career.

It's 100% clear that he's got everything needed technically to make the top, and his ability to jump into the unknown in a new country and become a leader in a team challenging for the Bundesliga at 18 suggests he's got the mental side there as well.

He just needs to pick and time his next move well now. The fee he will command means he's guaranteed to start at his next club, but he'll have to pick the coach and the team carefully. The end of this season might be a year too early to assume all the pressure that comes with the move, but then again, maybe it won't if he keeps developing at this rate and maybe if Dortmund win the league it's the best time to go.

At this point we should simply be hoping he stays abroad. Worst case scenario would be something like him going to United under a good new manager like Pochettino.
 
domalino said:
This is the first full game I've watched of him for 6 weeks or so. He's already much better than Sané at the same age. The main difference is how much more involved Sancho is in games and how he's a big player for them. He's not just the kid doing well in the team, they actually look to him when they're in trouble and need a goal, and he delivers.
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It's his style. He demands the ball. Been like that since academy level. I think his game will evolve a lot when he grows. He'll create just as much as he finishes. Reckon there will be a bit of Figo to his game as he develops. He's got it all IMO.
 
domalino said:
Yeah it's no guarantee he'll be better at 21, or 25 or have a better career.

It's 100% clear that he's got everything needed technically to make the top, and his ability to jump into the unknown in a new country and become a leader in a team challenging for the Bundesliga at 18 suggests he's got the mental side there as well.

He just needs to pick and time his next move well now. The fee he will command means he's guaranteed to start at his next club, but he'll have to pick the coach and the team carefully. The end of this season might be a year too early to assume all the pressure that comes with the move, but then again, maybe it won't if he keeps developing at this rate and maybe if Dortmund win the league it's the best time to go.

At this point we should simply be hoping he stays abroad. Worst case scenario would be something like him going to United under a good new manager like Pochettino.
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Agree with all that. He should stay at dortmund for at least another 2 seasons, if he keeps up these performances he will go to a top team the lieks of madrid Barcelona and even staying in Germany at Bayern.
 
domalino said:
This is the first full game I've watched of him for 6 weeks or so. He's already much better than Sané at the same age. The main difference is how much more involved Sancho is in games and how he's a big player for them. He's not just the kid doing well in the team, they actually look to him when they're in trouble and need a goal, and he delivers.
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You cannot put that into a player. Some players just turn up time after time in the biggest of matches and swing a game in their clubs favour.

Depressingly, growing up Mark Hughes used to do it for United and we have had Yaya and Aguero and now KDB.

For me its what separates the real elite players from the very good players. Some players will have great games week in week out but then go to an Anfield, Stamford Bridge etc and fail to produce. If he has that talent he really will be a player.
 
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