James Bond Films. Are They All That?

[Marklr]

When i was a kid back in the 70s, the latest Bond film was always exciting. Goldfinger always had me gripped.
Not now, though.
Do younger people like the older Bond films?

 

[jimharri]

I don’t really care who will be the next Bond. It will be someone aimed at attracting a new audience and they’ll mess with the story so much they’ll lose the essence of the character. The last film enabled that that’s why it’s garbage. Plus it felt rushed, almost like 2x QoS’s squished into one.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they go down the Marvel route and start doing stories about various 00 agents and then start pairing them up.

We'll have to agree to disagree re the "garbage" judgement. I'm certainly not going to argue the toss with you all night about it; I won't change your opinion, nor you mine.

 

[stuart_kennedy_tache]

As a lifelong Bond fan (I‘m 63 now) Timothy Dalton played Bond as close as possible to Ian Fleming’s Bond, so he is my favourite Bond. When The Living Daylights came out in 1987 you have to remember we had come to Dalton from Roger Moore swinging through the jungle with a Tarzan scream just a few years earlier, and what a fresh breath of air Dalton’s Bond was. With the exception of probably Moonraker, I love all the Bond movies, their escapism from the shitty real world we live in.
I liked No Time To Die but to me the ending was shit and unnecessary, so don’t know where the Bond films go from here, but hopefully it still does without being too woke.

 

[chesterbells]

As a lifelong Bond fan (I‘m 63 now) Timothy Dalton played Bond as close as possible to Ian Fleming’s Bond, so he is my favourite Bond. When The Living Daylights came out in 1987 you have to remember we had come to Dalton from Roger Moore swinging through the jungle with a Tarzan scream just a few years earlier, and what a fresh breath of air Dalton’s Bond was. With the exception of probably Moonraker, I love all the Bond movies, their escapism from the shitty real world we live in.
I liked No Time To Die but to me the ending was shit and unnecessary, so don’t know where the Bond films go from here, but hopefully it still does without being too woke.

Yes, unnecessary is the word I’d use too. They went for the nuclear option to garner some gravitas, importance, pathos, meaning, whatever but imho it was actually a cheap shot that just wasn’t needed.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Bond has lost its identity and wry sense of humour for me and become way too serious.

Plus, when it comes to fight sequences and stunts, Bond is a long, long way behind Mission Impossible in my opinion.

 

[OB1]

It wasn't brilliant, far from it, actually. But I'm not sure I'd go as far as to call it garbage. I'd probably describe it as meh; 4.5/10 for me. But it marked the closing of a chapter. Craig (I think) had had enough of the role, so they decided to take the course of action that they did. If there is a new "Bond" film (and how can it be a Bond film?), would they be brave enough to give the Lashana Lynch a shot at it, for one film, to see how she copes? A female 007 might be too radical a step for the Broccolis to consider. Elba is a name that regularly crops up in dispatches. Ditto Regé-Jean Page. I haven't heard anything about a new film, by the way. Just guessing.

No Time to Die has the usual “James Bond will return” message at the very end of the credits so taken literally, that does not indicate the next Bond being female.

Spoiler: Theory

I suspect they will either start again in some fashion or maybe do remake or revamp of “You Only Live Twice”, with Bond having survived but needing major plastic surgery following the events of the last movie, having been saved by the Japanese Who were on those boats that were heading to the island. '

 

[OB1]

Agreed, and a lot of Bond officianados feel the same way.

The soundtrack is one of John Barry’s best.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

No Time to Die has the usual “James Bond will return” message at the very end of the credits so taken literally, that does not indicate the next Bond being female.

Spoiler: Theory

I suspect they will either start again in some fashion or maybe do remake or revamp of “You Only Live Twice”, with Bond having survived but needing major plastic surgery following the events of the last movie, having been saved by the Japanese Who were on those boats that were heading to the island. '

Bond doesn't need to live because the could be a fresh timeline. Which they basically always was when they cast a new actor as the lead.

They confused things with having the same actors playing Q and M appear in different Bond timelines but nobody really cared much about cannon at that point.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

It wasn't brilliant, far from it, actually. But I'm not sure I'd go as far as to call it garbage. I'd probably describe it as meh; 4.5/10 for me. But it marked the closing of a chapter. Craig (I think) had had enough of the role, so they decided to take the course of action that they did. If there is a new "Bond" film (and how can it be a Bond film?), would they be brave enough to give the Lashana Lynch a shot at it, for one film, to see how she copes? A female 007 might be too radical a step for the Broccolis to consider. Elba is a name that regularly crops up in dispatches. Ditto Regé-Jean Page. I haven't heard anything about a new film, by the way. Just guessing.

At 51 He's already too old. He's also said he'd turn it down because it became about race.

 

[stuart_kennedy_tache]

Have to say best Bond film is Casino Royale (2006) because the second half of the film is just an update of the 1953 novel by Ian Fleming. They even did the torture scene close to the book, though the book was nastier. Pity the 2008 Quantum of Solace sequel was not great. Skyfall was okay , not so much Spectre and NTTD. To me some of the best Bond movies are the ones where actors make their Bond debuts.