James McLean

[hilts]

is James McLean the biggest wanker in football ?

Yes

Yes he is

 

[urban genie]

hes no more of a twat on the pitch than a lot of people ,think he gets an even worse press because of the poppy stuff ,its a free country so he can do what he wants ,



oh hang on its a free country because of the sacrifices of the men and women with whom we salute with the poppy,

Are we talking about WW1 and 2 or all susiquent conflicts too, as from what McClean has said his issue isn't with the poppy itself, but with the RBL changing it from a symbol remembering the fallen of the 2 world wars but to remembering all conflicts since including one that had people killed from the estate and City he was born he feels he cannot support it.

I can understand why some Irish people from certain places would choose not to wear one
as I understand some English peoples dislike of Irish catholics that support republicanism because of deaths caused in tbe same conflict.

I understand the plain shirt he wears get's auctioned off and the money goes to Irish veterans or other charities, he just doesn't support the RBL and tbf that's his choice their are veterans of the British army who don't too but that doens't make them less worthy of our respect for the sacrifices thwt have made in service.

Each to their own.

Personally I wear a poppy on Nov 11th not before or after just on tge day as a mark of respect, but I don't feel angry or upset if others don't want to.

 

[blue_paul]

A principled young man who’s a bit too competitive on the pitch from time to time.

Man from Derry doesn't subscribe to Army loving. Next!

His views are his own, and to be honest I find it uncomfortable that politics are allowed onto the pitch anyway. We can remember pur fallen in other ways and at actual services and cenotaphs. Shouldn't be in stadiums at all.

Some sense at last.

 

[lancs blue]

He's a dirty twat but that's it - everyone is free to wear or not wear a poppy, retaining that freedom was part of the reason for WW2 in particular.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Man from Derry doesn't subscribe to Army loving. Next!

His views are his own, and to be honest I find it uncomfortable that politics are allowed onto the pitch anyway. We can remember pur fallen in other ways and at actual services and cenotaphs. Shouldn't be in stadiums at all.

Spot on. We've allowed football to become a grief fest. We didn't have all this shit a few years ago. As someone eloquently put on Twitter last night, the poppy isn't about remembering, it's about forgetting. Forgetting the base nationalism and political posturing that sent millions to their deaths quite needlessly. And like good little, forelock-tugging serfs we accept and even embrace it.

And just to make it clear, my grandfather fought in the trenches and somehow lived to tell the tale, at least one of my great uncles died in France and hundreds of my relatives were murdered in Eastern Europe in the 1940's. So I don't need reminding about the futility of war and the sacrifices that it entails.

If McLean adds to that debate, even if that's from a fairly narrow perspective, then all the better.

 

[City_Sean]

Man from Derry doesn't subscribe to Army loving. Next!

His views are his own, and to be honest I find it uncomfortable that politics are allowed onto the pitch anyway. We can remember pur fallen in other ways and at actual services and cenotaphs. Shouldn't be in stadiums at all.

Spot on.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

He appears to have an issue with what one element of the British Army did in his home town before he was even born. His own 'leaders' in Mcguiness who i believe was involved to some extent in Bloody Sunday have managed to move on but he can't even tho he himself had absolutely nothing to do with the events in question. And because of this refuses to remember those that died in other conflicts to enable his freedom. More than just a bit confused if you ask me. Why bring attention to yourself like this unless you are seeking to or just plain stupid. I wonder if he has a similar issue with Eamon deValera, the man who comiserated with Nazi Germany on Hitlers death? People need to move on and remember that the poppy is a non political symbol. Aside from that he's a bang average and dirty footballer, who will be remembered for not wearing a poppy not his footballing skills. Ah that's why!

 

[Petetheblu]

That tackle on walker was proper nawty.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

People need to move on and remember that the poppy is a non political symbol.

Of course it's political. It serves a political agenda under the guise of "remembrance".

 

[urban genie]

People need to move on and remember that the poppy is a non political symbol.

Unfortunately the last few years it has been politicised and used as a political tool.