James Milner

RACHACE said:
OB1 said:
RACHACE said:
Find it strange that some would scoff at the suggestion that Milner could be used to lead the line in our upcoming matches. Especially as he has experience of playing as a striker in his early life as a professional footballer.

He'd certainly be a better option than yaya that's for sure. I sometimes wonder if some blues actually watch the game as yaya would make dzeko look like Sergio or tevez with regards work rate up front. He has many qualities but playing as a makeshift striker wouldn't be one I wouldn't have thought.

Honestly, people do post some unsupported nonsense. You simply have not got a clue if Milner would be a better option than Yaya but given that Yaya is more skillful, more powerful, has more pace and is a better finisher, I would say that it is quite a stretch to suggest Milner is a better option.

I also get sick and tired of hearing about shite about lack of work rate for Yaya: the guy has more touches on the ball than any player in the league, which means there must be one hell of a lot of lazy fuckers in the EPL. Yo cannot get on the ball that much if you just stand around doing sod all. He already covers more yards in a game than Dzeko or Aguero normally would so there is no reason why he shouldn't adjust his game to cover less distance and do more sprints.

I agree with your comparison between the two players. So you suggest to take a far more equipped midfielder out of his natural position rather than one who is less equipped?

The situation as I see it is, were possibly in need of another option to Pozo. My opinion is that Milner not only would be better suited to the role but him being employed there would have less of an affect on the midfield too.

Personally I'd give Pozo an hour against Palace and see how we are. He should have scored against Everton and I wonder had he have scored his chance, would more blues be positive about him being up front.

I have also not once accused yaya of being lazy. However I cannot see him being the best option for a position that's going to require him to put constant pressure on defenders when were out of possession.

Nope, I'm not suggesting we move Yaya out of midfield even though I think he would be a better striker than Milner. I have said elsewhere on this subject that because Yaya is the hub of the team, I would be reluctant to disrupt things by moving him; much as I would love to see Yaya have a go up front and prove just what he could do in that role.

As to question marks over him putting pressure on defenders, did you see the game against Everton and how he kept going and putting pressure on Gaz Baz when he got the ball; just the sort of thing he would need to do to centre backs!
 
dobobobo said:
OB1 said:
RACHACE said:
Find it strange that some would scoff at the suggestion that Milner could be used to lead the line in our upcoming matches. Especially as he has experience of playing as a striker in his early life as a professional footballer.

He'd certainly be a better option than yaya that's for sure. I sometimes wonder if some blues actually watch the game as yaya would make dzeko look like Sergio or tevez with regards work rate up front. He has many qualities but playing as a makeshift striker wouldn't be one I wouldn't have thought.

1) Honestly, people do post some unsupported nonsense. You simply have not got a clue if Milner would be a better option than Yaya but given that Yaya is more skillful, more powerful, has more pace and is a better finisher, I would say that it is quite a stretch to suggest Milner is a better option.

I also get sick and tired of hearing about shite about lack of work rate for Yaya: 2) the guy has more touches on the ball than any player in the league, which means there must be one hell of a lot of lazy fuckers in the EPL. Yo cannot get on the ball that much if you just stand around doing sod all. 3) He already covers more yards in a game than Dzeko or Aguero normally would so there is no reason why he shouldn't adjust his game to cover less distance and do more sprints.

1) Looks like your just making the same point that RACHACE is making, but from an oposite point of view.

2) If you're a link up midfield player then you will get a lot of the ball, the stat that matters is pass completion/success.

3) Why are you comparing a defensive midfielder to two strikers?


If you don't understand what I have said, I am not going to explain it.
 
g180aj said:
Out of them ayers who are regularly playing Yaya is the best fit purely due to his pace and power, Milner could do a job but silva isn't quick enough. I do though think the best options we have in our squad at present are Ambrose and Sinclair.

If Sinclair is one of our best options, we have a problem that big , we need to inform Houston.

The lads not close to being good enough for us in his normal position. I'm baffled as to why you'd think he'd be a good option as a makeshift 9.
 
OB1 said:
dobobobo said:
OB1 said:
1) Honestly, people do post some unsupported nonsense. You simply have not got a clue if Milner would be a better option than Yaya but given that Yaya is more skillful, more powerful, has more pace and is a better finisher, I would say that it is quite a stretch to suggest Milner is a better option.

I also get sick and tired of hearing about shite about lack of work rate for Yaya: 2) the guy has more touches on the ball than any player in the league, which means there must be one hell of a lot of lazy fuckers in the EPL. Yo cannot get on the ball that much if you just stand around doing sod all. 3) He already covers more yards in a game than Dzeko or Aguero normally would so there is no reason why he shouldn't adjust his game to cover less distance and do more sprints.

1) Looks like your just making the same point that RACHACE is making, but from an oposite point of view.

2) If you're a link up midfield player then you will get a lot of the ball, the stat that matters is pass completion/success.

3) Why are you comparing a defensive midfielder to two strikers?


If you don't understand what I have said, I am not going to explain it.

What haven't I understood?

Before you say am trolling, hand on heart I am not, just defending Milner be he is my type of player like you defend Yaya.
 
We could do with a couple more Milners. Undervalued by many, never hides and a genuine 100 percent er. I think we have one or two that could learn from him.

Sign on the line Jimmy.
 
Personally would put David in the so called false 9 as he has done it successfully before with good players around him, then have a 3 behind him of Yaya central and Jimmy and Jesus wide, with the Fern brothers holding. Let them play with a licence to roam a bit and palace wouldn't have a fucking Scooby.

As the thread is about Jimmy, our best signing in Jan would be Jimmy's new contract. He is a huge asset to the club, a great utility player and a great role model, should tie him down as a player, and would expect to see him on the coaching staff in the future. One Jimmy Milner
 
OB1 said:
RACHACE said:
OB1 said:
Honestly, people do post some unsupported nonsense. You simply have not got a clue if Milner would be a better option than Yaya but given that Yaya is more skillful, more powerful, has more pace and is a better finisher, I would say that it is quite a stretch to suggest Milner is a better option.

I also get sick and tired of hearing about shite about lack of work rate for Yaya: the guy has more touches on the ball than any player in the league, which means there must be one hell of a lot of lazy fuckers in the EPL. Yo cannot get on the ball that much if you just stand around doing sod all. He already covers more yards in a game than Dzeko or Aguero normally would so there is no reason why he shouldn't adjust his game to cover less distance and do more sprints.

I agree with your comparison between the two players. So you suggest to take a far more equipped midfielder out of his natural position rather than one who is less equipped?

The situation as I see it is, were possibly in need of another option to Pozo. My opinion is that Milner not only would be better suited to the role but him being employed there would have less of an affect on the midfield too.

Personally I'd give Pozo an hour against Palace and see how we are. He should have scored against Everton and I wonder had he have scored his chance, would more blues be positive about him being up front.

I have also not once accused yaya of being lazy. However I cannot see him being the best option for a position that's going to require him to put constant pressure on defenders when were out of possession.

Nope, I'm not suggesting we move Yaya out of midfield even though I think he would be a better striker than Milner. I have said elsewhere on this subject that because Yaya is the hub of the team, I would be reluctant to disrupt things by moving him; much as I would love to see Yaya have a go up front and prove just what he could do in that role.

As to question marks over him putting pressure on defenders, did you see the game against Everton and how he kept going and putting pressure on Gaz Baz when he got the ball; just the sort of thing he would need to do to centre backs!

Yes I watched the game and it didn't stand out to me that Yaya applied any more pressure than I'd expect to see from one of our midfielders.

I watch Yaya every other week and for me he wouldn't be the best option to lead the line. He has bursts where he closes down or blasts through the heart of a defence. His closing down is usually done in a far tighter area too which will also have other midfield players to help out (Fernandinho, Fernando etc). Being in a centre midfield unit and closing down isn't the same as being the lone striker and closing down. The striker has far more ground to cover and generally has less help.

Milner would, in my opinion, be a better option but like I said, I'd give Pozo another go.
 
Davs 19 said:
g180aj said:
Out of them ayers who are regularly playing Yaya is the best fit purely due to his pace and power, Milner could do a job but silva isn't quick enough. I do though think the best options we have in our squad at present are Ambrose and Sinclair.

If Sinclair is one of our best options, we have a problem that big , we need to inform Houston.

The lads not close to being good enough for us in his normal position. I'm baffled as to why you'd think he'd be a good option as a makeshift 9.

Simply because as a winger for Swansea his record was a goal every 3 games roughly, yes that was championship as well but playing through the middle he would at least offer pace which the other options don't seem to have much of.
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I am going to stick my neck out on this. If he doesn't sign his contract extension although it will disappointing he will have to go it isn't the end of the world imho.
 
Ray78 said:
I am going to stick my neck out on this. If he doesn't sign his contract extension although it will disappointing he will have to go leave it isn't the end of the world imho.
I hope you're right, Ray. Six years work down the pan for what, a tyke signature? Don't bare thinking about.
 

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