Javi Garcia (continued)

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Re: Javi Garcia

taconinja said:
Dribble said:
taconinja said:
I don't bother with comparisons between two disparate players. It's about system for me. Garcia suits Pellegrini's system more which is why he keeps selecting him when needed. Our system also allows opposition midfielders to dwell on the ball near the halfway line when we don't automatically press. This can flatter them somewhat allowing them time to make runs at us and pick out long passes. I've seen Huddlestone pressed and it isn't pretty. Put him up against Barcelona or Bayern Munich and you'll see what I mean.

If we're going to upgrade, then upgrade. This nonsense that we could bring in some fellow out of the stands to do a better job than Garcia is ridiculous.
I'll simplify the questions:
So you're saying in our current 4-4-2 formation, you'd rather play Garcia over Huddlestone?
Yes/No

Also if Garcia played for us against Barca/Bayern (perish the thought) that he'd fair better at being pressed than Huddlestone would?
Yes/No

Were any of Huddlestone's apparent deficiencies over Garcia's visually apparent when we played Hull at home earlier in the season?
Yes/No (please expand on your point of view if applicable)
Question 1 is irrelevant as I don't think either are the answer.

Question 2 is already answered as one of them has played Bayern Munich and we won.

Question 3 is irrelevant as playing against us is no indicator of how a player would do for us. You need a larger sample.
A yes or no to questions 1 & 2 will suffice.

For question 3, the same could be said for any player we've ever signed or intend to sign in the future, so a straight forward answer will again suffice.
 
Re: Javi Garcia

Huddlestone isn't the answer as he too lacks the required mobility/urgency,however,in every other aspect of the game he would be a far better option than Garcia.
 
Re: Javi Garcia

FantasyIreland said:
Huddlestone isn't the answer as he too lacks the required mobility/urgency,however,in every other aspect of the game he would be a far better option than Garcia.

Jonjo Shelvey all day as a great understudy and deffo one for the future when guided correctly imo.

Ffs just wikid him and hes only 21 lol... GET HIM.

edit.. he seems to dislike rags too.
 
Re: Javi Garcia

FantasyIreland said:
Huddlestone isn't the answer as he too lacks the required mobility/urgency,however,in every other aspect of the game he would be a far better option than Garcia.

It's a very good comparison to be able to make though.

Hudd has a quality passing range, actually makes tackles and gets on to the edge of opposition areas in order to take shots.

I'd have him as a squad player all day long if it meant I didn't have to see Javi in a blue shirt ever again.
 
Re: Javi Garcia

buzzer1 said:
FantasyIreland said:
Huddlestone isn't the answer as he too lacks the required mobility/urgency,however,in every other aspect of the game he would be a far better option than Garcia.

Jonjo Shelvey all day as a great understudy and deffo one for the future when guided correctly imo.

Ffs just wikid him and hes only 21 lol... GET HIM.

edit.. he seems to dislike rags too.

I've stated similar,on this very thread probably.....that I agree,i think he has all the attributes to be the player we require as back up to our first choice pairing or as the second defensive type.

It would be very difficult to keep a 'worldy' type player content in an understudy role,Shelvey would provide good quality,a superb attitude and hunger with plenty of room for improvement and all for a relatively low wage.

We could offer the traffic cone in part ex,however,as Laudrup likes players to be dynamic and technically astute,i fear it would be fruitless.
 
Re: Javi Garcia

FantasyIreland said:
buzzer1 said:
FantasyIreland said:
Huddlestone isn't the answer as he too lacks the required mobility/urgency,however,in every other aspect of the game he would be a far better option than Garcia.

Jonjo Shelvey all day as a great understudy and deffo one for the future when guided correctly imo.

Ffs just wikid him and hes only 21 lol... GET HIM.

edit.. he seems to dislike rags too.

I've stated similar,on this very thread probably.....that I agree,i think he has all the attributes to be the player we require as back up to our first choice pairing or as the second defensive type.

It would be very difficult to keep a 'worldy' type player content in an understudy role,Shelvey would provide good quality,a superb attitude and hunger with plenty of room for improvement and all for a relatively low wage.

We could offer the traffic cone in part ex,however,as Laudrup likes players to be dynamic and technically astute,i fear it would be fruitless.

Yeah, a player that would simply thrive in our surroundings.
 
Re: Javi Garcia

FantasyIreland said:
buzzer1 said:
FantasyIreland said:
Huddlestone isn't the answer as he too lacks the required mobility/urgency,however,in every other aspect of the game he would be a far better option than Garcia.

Jonjo Shelvey all day as a great understudy and deffo one for the future when guided correctly imo.

Ffs just wikid him and hes only 21 lol... GET HIM.

edit.. he seems to dislike rags too.

I've stated similar,on this very thread probably.....that I agree,i think he has all the attributes to be the player we require as back up to our first choice pairing or as the second defensive type.

It would be very difficult to keep a 'worldy' type player content in an understudy role,Shelvey would provide good quality,a superb attitude and hunger with plenty of room for improvement and all for a relatively low wage.

We could offer the traffic cone in part ex,however,as Laudrup likes players to be dynamic and technically astute,i fear it would be fruitless.

Someone who isn't particularly strong, not particularly successful in his passing, has lapses in concentration, isn't great at tackling and doesn't win aerial duels?

If this is who you want to replace Garcia that only suggests you fundamentally misunderstand Garcia's role.

He can run though, I'll give you that.
 
Re: Javi Garcia

NQCitizen said:
FantasyIreland said:
buzzer1 said:
Jonjo Shelvey all day as a great understudy and deffo one for the future when guided correctly imo.

Ffs just wikid him and hes only 21 lol... GET HIM.

edit.. he seems to dislike rags too.

I've stated similar,on this very thread probably.....that I agree,i think he has all the attributes to be the player we require as back up to our first choice pairing or as the second defensive type.

It would be very difficult to keep a 'worldy' type player content in an understudy role,Shelvey would provide good quality,a superb attitude and hunger with plenty of room for improvement and all for a relatively low wage.

We could offer the traffic cone in part ex,however,as Laudrup likes players to be dynamic and technically astute,i fear it would be fruitless.

Someone who isn't particularly strong, not particularly successful in his passing, has lapses in concentration, isn't great at tackling and doesn't win aerial duels?

If this is who you want to replace Garcia that only suggests you fundamentally misunderstand Garcia's role.

He can run though, I'll give you that.
Jesus fucking Christ Jonjo Shelvey !
 
Re: Javi Garcia

Shelvey is an attacking midfielder. He'd be absolute garbage as a holding mid.
 
Re: Javi Garcia

Shelvey NQ...... I'm not sure who you've been watching?? however,given your ludicrous defence of Garcia neither am i surprised you cannot recognise midfield proficiency.
 
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