NQCitizen said:FantasyIreland said:NQCitizen said:Weren't you saying in the Fernandinho thread that price tags don't matter?
Close but no prize......
When they're shite it matters very much.
He's not shite though that's the point.
He's a valuable, versatile squad player who is relatively young yet already has a lot of European experience (and as captain).
He's not very flashy and is admittedly pretty bloody slow but I think he definitely has an important role as a squad player. Two pretty well regarded managers have so far agreed.
Bluemoon maybe livid but I don't think Pellegrini will be unhappy with Javi tonight at all. Ask yourselves why.
FantasyIreland said:He was a liability tonight and we were fortunate not to concede more,he is so slow with next to no agility,somehow he even manages to make running look difficult!
I'm convinced his defensive team mates play below their usual standards as they are too concerned with covering his lack of ability and subsequently are dragged out of position and lose concentration on their own game.
Cobwebcat said:FantasyIreland said:He was a liability tonight and we were fortunate not to concede more,he is so slow with next to no agility,somehow he even manages to make running look difficult!
I'm convinced his defensive team mates play below their usual standards as they are too concerned with covering his lack of ability and subsequently are dragged out of position and lose concentration on their own game.
Of course you are right and there are many experienced Pundits that would agree with you. I don't think he was a particular favourite of Mancini either and I don't remember him playing at centre half under Mancini.
Pelle must see something in training that doesn't materialise on a match day. In theory I can understand the idea but its a huge gamble particularly when playing such a high line.
Cobwebcat said:FantasyIreland said:He was a liability tonight and we were fortunate not to concede more,he is so slow with next to no agility,somehow he even manages to make running look difficult!
I'm convinced his defensive team mates play below their usual standards as they are too concerned with covering his lack of ability and subsequently are dragged out of position and lose concentration on their own game.
Of course you are right and there are many experienced Pundits that would agree with you. I don't think he was a particular favourite of Mancini either and I don't remember him playing at centre half under Mancini.
Pelle must see something in training that doesn't materialise on a match day. In theory I can understand the idea but its a huge gamble particularly when playing such a high line.
NQCitizen said:Cobwebcat said:FantasyIreland said:He was a liability tonight and we were fortunate not to concede more,he is so slow with next to no agility,somehow he even manages to make running look difficult!
I'm convinced his defensive team mates play below their usual standards as they are too concerned with covering his lack of ability and subsequently are dragged out of position and lose concentration on their own game.
Of course you are right and there are many experienced Pundits that would agree with you. I don't think he was a particular favourite of Mancini either and I don't remember him playing at centre half under Mancini.
Pelle must see something in training that doesn't materialise on a match day. In theory I can understand the idea but its a huge gamble particularly when playing such a high line.
If you gamble twice and it pays off twice, maybe making that gamble is the correct one to make?
Cobwebcat said:NQCitizen said:Cobwebcat said:Of course you are right and there are many experienced Pundits that would agree with you. I don't think he was a particular favourite of Mancini either and I don't remember him playing at centre half under Mancini.
Pelle must see something in training that doesn't materialise on a match day. In theory I can understand the idea but its a huge gamble particularly when playing such a high line.
If you gamble twice and it pays off twice, maybe making that gamble is the correct one to make?
We will have to agree to disagree but I hope he comes good.