Similar to what people are saying about Garcia, the attack carried him. Once the opposition sorted out the attack and went at us, we saw what happened
grim up north said:Neville Kneville said:taconinja said:16-second mark.
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So that's it then ?
Fuck the rest of his career ?
He isn't allowed to make any mistakes without being discarded, but when others fuck up, we are supposed to ignore it & let them do it again, & again, & again ? It's only a mistake when it's Lescott who makes it ?
So Lescott is allowed to make mistakes Garcia and Kolorov arnt
Neville Kneville said:NQCitizen said:Cobwebcat said:Or we could stop carrying him and getting away with it because we won't always get away with this awful defending. You must see how poor attackers walk past him and he tries to drag hem own...he did it in the penalty box tonight!
I do. But all the other options have glaring flaws in their game too. Garcia's mistakes are exaggerated, but I'll admit he makes some. He did well as often as he did badly tonight. He did better at the weekend. He's the only player who can replace VK and confidently pass the ball out (played to Yaya for third at the weekend)
My point is I think pound-for-pound he's a better choice than Richards, Lescott, Boyata etc. Still haven't seen much to change my mind.
Fair enough. Stick Nasri there. He's even better at passing the ball.
Cobwebcat said:Or we could stop carrying him and getting away with it because we won't always get away with this awful defending. You must see how poor attackers walk past him and he tries to drag hem own...he did it in the penalty box tonight!
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm referencing two years ago.Brendan110_0 said:Similar to what people are saying about Garcia, the attack carried him. Once the opposition sorted out the attack and went at us, we saw what happened
You mean when we sat back for the last 15 mins to get 3 points? Amazing comments on here.
NQCitizen said:Neville Kneville said:NQCitizen said:I do. But all the other options have glaring flaws in their game too. Garcia's mistakes are exaggerated, but I'll admit he makes some. He did well as often as he did badly tonight. He did better at the weekend. He's the only player who can replace VK and confidently pass the ball out (played to Yaya for third at the weekend)
My point is I think pound-for-pound he's a better choice than Richards, Lescott, Boyata etc. Still haven't seen much to change my mind.
Fair enough. Stick Nasri there. He's even better at passing the ball.
Garcia is still good in the air, strong and reads the game well. Yeah he's slow.
Realistically we need a defender above the level of what we have beyond Kompany and Nasty.
I defend Garcia a lot because I just don't think he's miles worse than the rest of the squad and this need for a whipping boy is just absurd at times. His attitude is almost exactly what we want in a squad player.
Even tonight Garcia's mistake is a smaller one than Zaba's and Nasty's for the goal and look who is taking the stick.
Neville Kneville said:NQCitizen said:Neville Kneville said:Fair enough. Stick Nasri there. He's even better at passing the ball.
Garcia is still good in the air, strong and reads the game well. Yeah he's slow.
Realistically we need a defender above the level of what we have beyond Kompany and Nasty.
I defend Garcia a lot because I just don't think he's miles worse than the rest of the squad and this need for a whipping boy is just absurd at times. His attitude is almost exactly what we want in a squad player.
Even tonight Garcia's mistake is a smaller one than Zaba's and Nasty's for the goal and look who is taking the stick.
Garcia is fantastic in the air & a good tackler. He isn't a centre back & is slow. He was beaten in the air because of judgement not ability. Lescott would have just picked the ball up without even missing a step, it was easy stuff for a cb. If Garcia had time, he may learn it. He hasn't got time.
Zabba & Nastasic were dreadful too & the whole defence is becoming a joke.
grim up north said:Neville Kneville said:NQCitizen said:Garcia is still good in the air, strong and reads the game well. Yeah he's slow.
Realistically we need a defender above the level of what we have beyond Kompany and Nasty.
I defend Garcia a lot because I just don't think he's miles worse than the rest of the squad and this need for a whipping boy is just absurd at times. His attitude is almost exactly what we want in a squad player.
Even tonight Garcia's mistake is a smaller one than Zaba's and Nasty's for the goal and look who is taking the stick.
Garcia is fantastic in the air & a good tackler. He isn't a centre back & is slow. He was beaten in the air because of judgement not ability. Lescott would have just picked the ball up without even missing a step, it was easy stuff for a cb. If Garcia had time, he may learn it. He hasn't got time.
Zabba & Nastasic were dreadful too & the whole defence is becoming a joke.
Are you shagging Lescot,s wife.
Marvin said:It's you who "hate" players so that it overrides all reason. And it must take something away from your own enjoyment. We won, and it took 11 players to do it.Neville Kneville said:NipHolmes said:Some people like to be outsiders. Be TOP blues and blindly back players purely for wearing the shirt.
Fact is Garcia would not be likely to start for any team in the top 8. He's too expensive to justify as a squad option. Not good enough to play CDM or CB. On that basis he HAS to go.
Neither he nor Nastasic are good enough to be playing as 1st choice at this level.
Nastasic should be the 4th choice kid who plays the lesser games to learn the game, not the go to No1 cb. Garcia should be there as an emergency measure and nothing else.
If they don't like Lescott, then sign a fucking replacement. first Mancini, now Pellegrini have done nothing but undermine the bloke & ruin his confidence, but if he & Garcia or Nastasic challenged for the same ball, Lescott would win 95 out of 100 v both of them. He is half of the title winning cb pairing which was the best in the league. Now the most important thing for a cb is passing the fucking ball ??? Do me a favour.
The idea that defending doesn't matter is fucking ridiculous.
If we all hate Lescott then for fuck's sake sign a proper, quality central defender to replace him.
Neville Kneville said:grim up north said:Neville Kneville said:Garcia is fantastic in the air & a good tackler. He isn't a centre back & is slow. He was beaten in the air because of judgement not ability. Lescott would have just picked the ball up without even missing a step, it was easy stuff for a cb. If Garcia had time, he may learn it. He hasn't got time.
Zabba & Nastasic were dreadful too & the whole defence is becoming a joke.
Are you shagging Lescot,s wife.
No, I just remember when Mercer's side won the league & the players who were key to the success getting respect from City fans & not being treated like shit.
Unfortunately, that has changed & people such as Barry & Lescott get no recognition from half the City fans who just follow the latest bullshit tactical fad like sheep.
Rascal said:Cobwebcat said:Or we could stop carrying him and getting away with it because we won't always get away with this awful defending. You must see how poor attackers walk past him and he tries to drag hem own...he did it in the penalty box tonight!
FFS give it a rest. You are dangerously obsessed.
Has he shagged your boyfriend or something?
Tom H Conwy exile said:I remember you as a lumbering member of a certain back four in the cheadle area marcus, and i beleive you are well qualified to assess Garcias lack of pace. I agree he's no good, too slow and hesitant, i don't fancy his chances with oscar and Hazard running at him on sunday, luckily at least one of Demechelis or Vinny should be fit...please!
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:I feel a bit sorry for him getting stick in this position as is not his position. I don't rate him in his midfield role but the fact is we dropped a complete bollock not buying a top class CB in the summer. We should have had Kompany/Nastasic and one other great player competing for the 2 places with Lescott as a back up just in case.
We should not be relying on a midfielder to play CB with the resources we have.
I would have rather not bought Jovetic or at least sold Dzeko and used the money to sign the player we need in that position.
Rascal said:Cobwebcat said:Or we could stop carrying him and getting away with it because we won't always get away with this awful defending. You must see how poor attackers walk past him and he tries to drag hem own...he did it in the penalty box tonight!
FFS give it a rest. You are dangerously obsessed.
Has he shagged your boyfriend or something?
NQCitizen said:FantasyIreland said:Enough with the excuses, he isn't good enough to play for Manchester City either at centre half or his more 'natural' position in midfield. He would stuggle to make the grade at Stoke.
16 fuckin million......
Weren't you saying in the Fernandinho thread that price tags don't matter?
FantasyIreland said:NQCitizen said:FantasyIreland said:Enough with the excuses, he isn't good enough to play for Manchester City either at centre half or his more 'natural' position in midfield. He would stuggle to make the grade at Stoke.
16 fuckin million......
Weren't you saying in the Fernandinho thread that price tags don't matter?
Close but no prize......
When they're shite it matters very much.