Javi Garcia

[Neville Kneville]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

Lol

Because Garcia is better than they are in central defence. It's important to be able to play the ball out of defence which is why I think Garcia plays ahead of Micah

Half of you made your mind up he was rubbish last season, and despite all evidence to the contrary you wont change your minds. We had this before with Stephen Ireland, and Micah Richards

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

fine if we dont have ANY defenders to use but why use a shite midfielder in a defender role where he's even shitter??? why not put lescott in or richards?

Lol

Because Garcia is better than they are in central defence. It's important to be able to play the ball out of defence which is why I think Garcia plays ahead of Micah

Half of you made your mind up he was rubbish last season, and despite all evidence to the contrary you wont change your minds. We had this before with Stephen Ireland, and Micah Richards

The ironic thing is Nastasic is the one who brings the ball out more often than not.

Garcia was saved by Nastasic a few times. He missed an header against a slight Honda. He was ok in second half but atrocious first half.

Marvin, Garcia is not good enough to play for us and nor is he suited for this league or pacey opposition. He should go to Italy, Spain or Portugal to revive his career for his sake and ours.

He plays at CB because we have no DeMichellis or Kompany. Not because he's a wizard who can defend and make play from deep ala De Rossi.

 

[taconinja]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

Because Garcia is better than they are in central defence. It's important to be able to play the ball out of defence which is why I think Garcia plays ahead of Micah

Half of you made your mind up he was rubbish last season, and despite all evidence to the contrary you wont change your minds. We had this before with Stephen Ireland, and Micah Richards

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Never trust the English media to analyze anything. Ever. You should have won the past 73 World Cups according to them.

 

[hgblue]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

Because Garcia is better than they are in central defence. It's important to be able to play the ball out of defence which is why I think Garcia plays ahead of Micah

Half of you made your mind up he was rubbish last season, and despite all evidence to the contrary you wont change your minds. We had this before with Stephen Ireland, and Micah Richards

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

I'm gobsmacked that some people think he played well tonight. What were they watching?

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

Because Garcia is better than they are in central defence. It's important to be able to play the ball out of defence which is why I think Garcia plays ahead of Micah

Half of you made your mind up he was rubbish last season, and despite all evidence to the contrary you wont change your minds. We had this before with Stephen Ireland, and Micah Richards

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Some people like to be outsiders. Be TOP blues and blindly back players purely for wearing the shirt.

Fact is Garcia would not be likely to start for any team in the top 8. He's too expensive to justify as a squad option. Not good enough to play CDM or CB. On that basis he HAS to go.<br /><br />-- Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:28 pm --<br /><br />

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Never trust the English media to analyze anything. Ever. You should have won the past 73 World Cups according to them.

There's a stark contrast to hype and analysis. Anybody who watches Garcia for us sees him as a weak link and out his depth.

The media back England to win because it sells papers, gets people buying shirts and flags, fills pubs and gets a feel good atmosphere going. England should and could have won Euro 96 ;)

 

[Brendan110_0]

Almost killed the game today several times. Seemed totally unaware of his surroundings, and almost every chance Moscow had, he would have been at fault if the ball went in, or was at fault.

It's beyond me how you can get beat in the air by Honda, but hey, shit happens.

Another ref, would have given the penalty of Musa.

A liability, but that's nothing new.

Take off the Souness view glasses, Nasty and Zabba should've done better for the goal, Garcia snuffed out lots of attacks. Garcia had a good game IMO.

 

[tonea2003]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

He did his best on a awful pitch out of position

He was always going to drop a few ricketts

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

I'm gobsmacked that some people think he played well tonight. What were they watching?

Comedy Central and they thought they'd give it a go as amateur comedians.

 

[Jumanji]

Almost killed the game today several times. Seemed totally unaware of his surroundings, and almost every chance Moscow had, he would have been at fault if the ball went in, or was at fault.

It's beyond me how you can get beat in the air by Honda, but hey, shit happens.

Another ref, would have given the penalty of Musa.

A liability, but that's nothing new.

Take off the Souness view glasses, Nasty and Zabba should've done better for the goal, Garcia snuffed out lots of attacks. Garcia had a good game IMO.

Funny how people see the game differently.

I shat my pants every time a player ran at him, and with good reason as Garcia didn't disappoint.

Did just enough to see us through.

Btw, i've not heard Souness's punditry of our match tonight. Just going on what I personally saw.

 

[NQCitizen]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Some people like to be outsiders. Be TOP blues and blindly back players purely for wearing the shirt.

Fact is Garcia would not be likely to start for any team in the top 8. He's too expensive to justify as a squad option. Not good enough to play CDM or CB. On that basis he HAS to go.

-- Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:28 pm --

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Never trust the English media to analyze anything. Ever. You should have won the past 73 World Cups according to them.

There's a stark contrast to hype and analysis. Anybody who watches Garcia for us sees him as a weak link and out his depth.

The media back England to win because it sells papers, gets people buying shirts and flags, fills pubs and gets a feel good atmosphere going. England should and could have won Euro 96 ;)

25 CL appearances. Quarter finalist. Captain.

"Out of his depth"?

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Some people like to be outsiders. Be TOP blues and blindly back players purely for wearing the shirt.

Fact is Garcia would not be likely to start for any team in the top 8. He's too expensive to justify as a squad option. Not good enough to play CDM or CB. On that basis he HAS to go.

Neither he nor Nastasic are good enough to be playing as 1st choice at this level.

Nastasic should be the 4th choice kid who plays the lesser games to learn the game, not the go to No1 cb. Garcia should be there as an emergency measure and nothing else.

If they don't like Lescott, then sign a fucking replacement. first Mancini, now Pellegrini have done nothing but undermine the bloke & ruin his confidence, but if he & Garcia or Nastasic challenged for the same ball, Lescott would win 95 out of 100 v both of them. He is half of the title winning cb pairing which was the best in the league. Now the most important thing for a cb is passing the fucking ball ??? Do me a favour.

The idea that defending doesn't matter is fucking ridiculous.

If we all hate Lescott then for fuck's sake sign a proper, quality central defender to replace him.

 

[City Raider]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

fair play to him for giving his all but the lad doesn't cut it as a cb

he's ok as long as the game is played in front of him, but as soon as he's on the turn, players down the side of him or running at him - it's a nerve wracking watch

but my biggest problem with that back 4 is we havent an organiser - i hope di michelis is vocal

 

[NQCitizen]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Some people like to be outsiders. Be TOP blues and blindly back players purely for wearing the shirt.

Fact is Garcia would not be likely to start for any team in the top 8. He's too expensive to justify as a squad option. Not good enough to play CDM or CB. On that basis he HAS to go.

Neither he nor Nastasic are good enough to be playing as 1st choice at this level.

Nastasic should be the 4th choice kid who plays the lesser games to learn the game, not the go to No1 cb. Garcia should be there as an emergency measure and nothing else.

If they don't like Lescott, then sign a fucking replacement. first Mancini, now Pellegrini have done nothing but undermine the bloke & ruin his confidence, but if he & Garcia or Nastasic challenged for the same ball, Lescott would win 95 out of 100 v both of them. He is half of the title winning cb pairing which was the best in the league. Now the most important thing for a cb is passing the fucking ball ??? Do me a favour.

The idea that defending doesn't matter is fucking ridiculous.

If we all hate Lescott then for fuck's sake sign a proper, quality central defender to replace him.

The cruel plot to undermine Lescott. Obviously.

 

[Burtonblue]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

I NEVER want to see him at centre back again.
He was awful to tonight. Truely dreadful.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

This belief that he is used to a slow, unphysical, possesion based game is utter nonsense. He came to fame playing for Benfica, who don't remotely play like that. Despite the common belief, Portuguese football is nothing like Spanish football. They play all out attack with vast amounts of runners from midfield. He was at his best playing as the holder, giving Gaitan, Witsel, Salvio, Bruno Cesar and co the licence to fly forwards, along with both fullbacks. The problem he's had so far is that unlike Witsel, Yaya has made no attempt to get back or help out defensively, meaning he's gotten overloaded.

You simply cannot play a midfield 2 if one of them isn't defending, it will make the one player chasing shadows look poor, while the lazy guy is strolling around so far away from the play they avoid the blame. Let him play alongside someone with energy like Fernandinho, Rodwell or Milner, or play him in a midfield 3, then he can be a top player for us, but if we hang him out to dry playing in a two with Yaya then he'll get continue to get exposed

This is spot on. Put Garcia next to Rodwell or Fernandinho and he'll be good, I'm convinced. Reads the game well, fills gaps well, never gets beaten in the air.

Seriously ? Honda beat him to the ball today didn't he? I would like to see Lescott, Boyata or even Richards play in the CB position alongside Nasty.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

Lol

Because Garcia is better than they are in central defence. It's important to be able to play the ball out of defence which is why I think Garcia plays ahead of Micah

Half of you made your mind up he was rubbish last season, and despite all evidence to the contrary you wont change your minds. We had this before with Stephen Ireland, and Micah Richards

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You should tell Souness because he is as baffled as the rest of us and I think he might know a bit about playing there.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

Some people like to be outsiders. Be TOP blues and blindly back players purely for wearing the shirt.

Fact is Garcia would not be likely to start for any team in the top 8. He's too expensive to justify as a squad option. Not good enough to play CDM or CB. On that basis he HAS to go.

Neither he nor Nastasic are good enough to be playing as 1st choice at this level.

Nastasic should be the 4th choice kid who plays the lesser games to learn the game, not the go to No1 cb. Garcia should be there as an emergency measure and nothing else.

If they don't like Lescott, then sign a fucking replacement. first Mancini, now Pellegrini have done nothing but undermine the bloke & ruin his confidence, but if he & Garcia or Nastasic challenged for the same ball, Lescott would win 95 out of 100 v both of them. He is half of the title winning cb pairing which was the best in the league. Now the most important thing for a cb is passing the fucking ball ??? Do me a favour.

The idea that defending doesn't matter is fucking ridiculous.

If we all hate Lescott then for fuck's sake sign a proper, quality central defender to replace him.

The cruel plot to undermine Lescott. Obviously.

No just cocky, cliché ridden pretend football intelligence, which is based on nothing but bullshit & has no basis in fact.

Most successful teams have proper defenders playing cb. One or two get away with not having them because they are so good, but then sometimes get dumped out of the Champions League by inferior teams when the attack fails & the defenders fuck up.

 

[taconinja]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

I was genuinely laughing at that post, I know very well why Garcia is playing ahead of Lescott

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Some people like to be outsiders. Be TOP blues and blindly back players purely for wearing the shirt.

Fact is Garcia would not be likely to start for any team in the top 8. He's too expensive to justify as a squad option. Not good enough to play CDM or CB. On that basis he HAS to go.

-- Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:28 pm --

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Never trust the English media to analyze anything. Ever. You should have won the past 73 World Cups according to them.

There's a stark contrast to hype and analysis. Anybody who watches Garcia for us sees him as a weak link and out his depth.

The media back England to win because it sells papers, gets people buying shirts and flags, fills pubs and gets a feel good atmosphere going. England should and could have won Euro 96 ;)

Don't mistake me for saying he should be starting for us especially at CB. No, he's cover. That's all. I'm simply not buying into the handwringing appreciation of Lescott who for an actual CB is horrible.

 

[decmancity]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

Those calling for Lescott to play.

Does it not speak volumes when both Mancini and Pellegrini have imo seemingly wanted to not play Lescott wherever possible?

Then again I guess you know more than they do and are clearly wasted doing what you do now as a career.

 

[Marvin]

Re: The excellent Javi Garcia ?

You'd better explain it to Carragher, Souness & Schmeichel then because they think he's shite & a liability & Carragher has just mentioned how people like Garcia & Mascherano pretending to be central defenders is nonsense, as they have no idea about positioning, & no instinct for the job, which is pretty obvious to anyone, or should be.

Ask a few neutral supporters, who don't have Lescott issues, what they think.

Some people like to be outsiders. Be TOP blues and blindly back players purely for wearing the shirt.

Fact is Garcia would not be likely to start for any team in the top 8. He's too expensive to justify as a squad option. Not good enough to play CDM or CB. On that basis he HAS to go.

Neither he nor Nastasic are good enough to be playing as 1st choice at this level.

Nastasic should be the 4th choice kid who plays the lesser games to learn the game, not the go to No1 cb. Garcia should be there as an emergency measure and nothing else.

If they don't like Lescott, then sign a fucking replacement. first Mancini, now Pellegrini have done nothing but undermine the bloke & ruin his confidence, but if he & Garcia or Nastasic challenged for the same ball, Lescott would win 95 out of 100 v both of them. He is half of the title winning cb pairing which was the best in the league. Now the most important thing for a cb is passing the fucking ball ??? Do me a favour.

The idea that defending doesn't matter is fucking ridiculous.

If we all hate Lescott then for fuck's sake sign a proper, quality central defender to replace him.

It's you who "hate" players so that it overrides all reason. And it must take something away from your own enjoyment. We won, and it took 11 players to do it.