Javier Hernandez

[Clubber]

Looks a very good player, similar to a young Michael Owen.

Thing is though, like you shouldn't judge any player off their first season, if they have a great one or a poor one. The key to a quality player is consistently performing.

The likes of Kolarov may need a little more time to adapt, but Hernandez will now be seen as a big threat and will warrant more attention from the opposition. If he plays well next year, then fair play, no denying his ability.

 

[Dirty Harry]

He's a cheating little c**t and there is much in his game which is actually quite average, BUT, he has that canny knack of being in the right place at the right time and putting the ball in the back of the net, that's where he is top quality.

Wouldnt get a sniff if he played for a mid to lower table club.. The scum are always going to get chances fook me if fletcher ogay and wes orange can score for em..anyone can..

I understand what you're saying mate, but I think he would still get chances and put them away, very much like the Goat in many respects, not the greatest player who ever lived but seems to have that knack of being in the right place etc, I guess next season we'll have a clearer idea one way or the other but I hope you're right and I'm wrong because he's a cheating little c*nt.

 

[Castiel]

I understand what you're saying mate, but I think he would still get chances and put them away, very much like the Goat in many respects, not the greatest player who ever lived but seems to have that knack of being in the right place etc, I guess next season we'll have a clearer idea one way or the other but I hope you're right and I'm wrong because he's a cheating little c*nt.

Like I said earlier, Barca immediately figured him out with the offside trap, and he fell for it every single time. If other teams catch on they'll render him inert pretty easily.

 

[lloydie]

Pretty much in agreement with the young Owen comparison, will be interesting to see how he fares next season. Have a feeling that good though he is, he's not as good as the ragfest would have us believe but then we're pretty much used to that.

What annoys me about him though is that feckin prayer thing he does in the centre circle whilst wearing and kissing a badge with a devil on it. Proof that there is no God, if there were he'd be smote double quick, (remember ratboy running from the thunder?) and I'd happily apologise to the god botherers on here whilst being damned to eternal flames.

 

[Dirty Harry]

I understand what you're saying mate, but I think he would still get chances and put them away, very much like the Goat in many respects, not the greatest player who ever lived but seems to have that knack of being in the right place etc, I guess next season we'll have a clearer idea one way or the other but I hope you're right and I'm wrong because he's a cheating little c*nt.

Like I said earlier, Barca immediately figured him out with the offside trap, and he fell for it every single time. If other teams catch on they'll render him inert pretty easily.

If he'd scored most or all of his goals by timing his runs like that, well, I'd be inclined to agree mate but he hasn't, many have been scored in and around the six yard box.
Barca played him and the rags well, there is no doubt about that, but they defend quite high up the pitch so the rags didn't have too many options other than to try and spring him, Barca had just read their books and they had very few options after that but in any case lets not forget here, we're judging a youngster (or it appears to be the case) on his performance against probably one of the top 3 sides that I've seen in 40 years of football, I'd prefer to see what he comes up with over the next year or two before I make my mind up fully, I hope I'm wrong, hate the little sh1t and his lesbo features.

 

[Castiel]

I understand what you're saying mate, but I think he would still get chances and put them away, very much like the Goat in many respects, not the greatest player who ever lived but seems to have that knack of being in the right place etc, I guess next season we'll have a clearer idea one way or the other but I hope you're right and I'm wrong because he's a cheating little c*nt.

Like I said earlier, Barca immediately figured him out with the offside trap, and he fell for it every single time. If other teams catch on they'll render him inert pretty easily.

If he'd scored most or all of his goals by timing his runs like that, well, I'd be inclined to agree mate but he hasn't, many have been scored in and around the six yard box.
Barca played him and the rags well, there is no doubt about that, but they defend quite high up the pitch so the rags didn't have too many options other than to try and spring him, Barca had just read their books and they had very few options after that but in any case lets not forget here, we're judging a youngster (or it appears to be the case) on his performance against probably one of the top 3 sides that I've seen in 40 years of football, I'd prefer to see what he comes up with over the next year or two before I make my mind up fully, I hope I'm wrong, hate the little sh1t and his lesbo features.

No doubt most teams wont be able to play high up the pitch like Barca did because they'd get destroyed. But teams with equal or superior quality in midfield to United can accommodate that tactic to beat him without too much hassle. He looked completely lost against it.

So no, your Stoke's and Blackburns parking the bus wont be able to do it, but there's no reason why the top 6 teams can't deploy similar traps to ruin his day. For a player that relies on speed, his run timing is awful.

 

[Viva Rivaldo]

So no, your Stoke's and Blackburns parking the bus wont be able to do it, but there's no reason why the top 6 teams can't deploy similar traps to ruin his day. For a player that relies on speed, his run timing is awful.

I've been waiting for the perfect moment to dip into this thread.

His run timing is awful? Who have you been watching? His movement is the single best thing about his entire game. That's why he's scored as many goals as he has; his anticipation of a pass, reaction to mistakes etc. all mean that he gets as many opportunities to score as he does.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Like I said earlier, Barca immediately figured him out with the offside trap, and he fell for it every single time. If other teams catch on they'll render him inert pretty easily.

If he'd scored most or all of his goals by timing his runs like that, well, I'd be inclined to agree mate but he hasn't, many have been scored in and around the six yard box.
Barca played him and the rags well, there is no doubt about that, but they defend quite high up the pitch so the rags didn't have too many options other than to try and spring him, Barca had just read their books and they had very few options after that but in any case lets not forget here, we're judging a youngster (or it appears to be the case) on his performance against probably one of the top 3 sides that I've seen in 40 years of football, I'd prefer to see what he comes up with over the next year or two before I make my mind up fully, I hope I'm wrong, hate the little sh1t and his lesbo features.

No doubt most teams wont be able to play high up the pitch like Barca did because they'd get destroyed. But teams with equal or superior quality in midfield to United can accommodate that tactic to beat him without too much hassle. He looked completely lost against it.

So no, your Stoke's and Blackburns parking the bus wont be able to do it, but there's no reason why the top 6 teams can't deploy similar traps to ruin his day. For a player that relies on speed, his run timing is awful.

But you could make a similar point for most if not all strikers that if you played to a particular gameplan then it would negate their effectiveness, if they fail to score or have an impact does that make them any less a player in other games ? I think not, they were just played well and played out of that particular game because of superior players and superior tactics.

Don't agree on his run timing tbh bud, he makes great runs and has very good movement plus his abilty to create his own space is very good aswell imo.

ps I ain't comfortable singing the praises of the little hard on, prefer to do it with one of our own so we'll have to agree to disagree for the time being bro ;-).

 

[another generation]

Well the rags have apparently told Real Madrid that he's not for sale at any price.

'No amount of money' according to the Beeb. So, then, Jose, send over a couple of good looking lads to spend a quiet afternoon in a public sauna with Messrs O'Shea, Camel Gob and any other rag that might be interested, and you might get yourself a Mexican. No money, just favours of certain kind.

 

[toffee balls]

So no, your Stoke's and Blackburns parking the bus wont be able to do it, but there's no reason why the top 6 teams can't deploy similar traps to ruin his day. For a player that relies on speed, his run timing is awful.

I've been waiting for the perfect moment to dip into this thread.

His run timing is awful? Who have you been watching? His movement is the single best thing about his entire game. That's why he's scored as many goals as he has; his anticipation of a pass, reaction to mistakes etc. all mean that he gets as many opportunities to score as he does.

He runs in straight lines.

If he learns to run the line he has a chance.

Would I swap him for tevez?

Not a fucking chance in hell