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Re: Joe Hart
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Santiago Street
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Re: Joe Hart
Joe's fault I'm afraid.
The keeper's in charge of the area at corners. If you don't have a man on the near post then you make doubly sure you cover it yourself.
Making great saves later on is all well and good but the first goal is usually all important
Joe's fault I'm afraid.
The keeper's in charge of the area at corners. If you don't have a man on the near post then you make doubly sure you cover it yourself.
Making great saves later on is all well and good but the first goal is usually all important
pml79
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we got caught out again with copy cat goal in munich they scored bang on half time we still havnt learned.
we got caught out again with copy cat goal in munich they scored bang on half time we still havnt learned.
Re: Joe Hart
As City mark zonally at corners I would suggest that is the management and coaching staffs tactics not Joe's.
Santiago Street . said:Joe's fault I'm afraid.
The keeper's in charge of the area at corners. If you don't have a man on the near post then you make doubly sure you cover it yourself.
Making great saves later on is all well and good but the first goal is usually all important
As City mark zonally at corners I would suggest that is the management and coaching staffs tactics not Joe's.
es1
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spot on
not joe's fault, i wouldnt blame anyone for it tbh
cavanni attacked the ball very well and got an excellent header in
ID70 said:Santiago Street . said:Joe's fault I'm afraid.
The keeper's in charge of the area at corners. If you don't have a man on the near post then you make doubly sure you cover it yourself.
Making great saves later on is all well and good but the first goal is usually all important
As City mark zonally at corners I would suggest that is the management and coaching staffs tactics not Joe's.
spot on
not joe's fault, i wouldnt blame anyone for it tbh
cavanni attacked the ball very well and got an excellent header in
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Re: Joe Hart
If i'm honest ,i'd say I agree with you and have been saying it for ages,he has very minimal to do and doesn't do it very well.Santiago Street . said:Joe's fault I'm afraid.
The keeper's in charge of the area at corners. If you don't have a man on the near post then you make doubly sure you cover it yourself.
Making great saves later on is all well and good but the first goal is usually all important
twinkletoes
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He excels in shot stopping but still fails to do the fundamental things expected of a goalkeeper.
He excels in shot stopping but still fails to do the fundamental things expected of a goalkeeper.
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Joe Hart, a theory...
While joe has still been decent in net this season, i think everyone must admit that he has made more errors than last season put together, several of which have led to silly goals being conceded.
He is not the only reason we are conceding more this season; we arent as defensive in games as we were last season, but i think he could have conceded a few less.
Now, could the reason behind this be the lack of a serious back up keeper? He is ubtouchable in our squad as costel is unlikely to become our regular number one. Last season he had given waiting in the wings and at birmingham he was not guaranteed a place in either the birmingham or city team, so he had to be on top of his game.
However, is the lack of a quality replacement leading to him becoming slightly complacement? Im sure his motivation is to help his club and his teammates and he isnt a selfish player, but i wonder if the lack of a proven gk on the bench has caused some of the errors?
While joe has still been decent in net this season, i think everyone must admit that he has made more errors than last season put together, several of which have led to silly goals being conceded.
He is not the only reason we are conceding more this season; we arent as defensive in games as we were last season, but i think he could have conceded a few less.
Now, could the reason behind this be the lack of a serious back up keeper? He is ubtouchable in our squad as costel is unlikely to become our regular number one. Last season he had given waiting in the wings and at birmingham he was not guaranteed a place in either the birmingham or city team, so he had to be on top of his game.
However, is the lack of a quality replacement leading to him becoming slightly complacement? Im sure his motivation is to help his club and his teammates and he isnt a selfish player, but i wonder if the lack of a proven gk on the bench has caused some of the errors?
Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
He did make errors too last season ! Not picking on him, it's a natural thing for a keeper his age.
It does make a big difference that he doesn't get as much protection as he did last season but I would say our back 5 is in no way near the form it was last season defensively.
While joe has still been decent in net this season, i think everyone must admit that he has made more errors than last season put together, several of which have led to silly goals being conceded.
He did make errors too last season ! Not picking on him, it's a natural thing for a keeper his age.
It does make a big difference that he doesn't get as much protection as he did last season but I would say our back 5 is in no way near the form it was last season defensively.
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we havent lost a game and hes probably the best keeper in the league stop moaning !
we havent lost a game and hes probably the best keeper in the league stop moaning !
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We've got potentially the best keeper in the world at our club. The older he gets the better he'll be. Remember that Rednosed Dane at the scum had a few cock ups in his early years.
We've got potentially the best keeper in the world at our club. The older he gets the better he'll be. Remember that Rednosed Dane at the scum had a few cock ups in his early years.
Rammyblues
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Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
IMO he seems to being found out in CL, hopefully he will learn from these mistakes which in turn will improve him as a player.
IMO he seems to being found out in CL, hopefully he will learn from these mistakes which in turn will improve him as a player.
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Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
Top class keepers want to play every week. Unless you have a good bright up and comming keeper who is willing to sit on the bench for a year or two. Given was never going to stay once he was second choice.
Joe has made some great saves at important times in games, yes he has made mistakes, what I like is the way he gets back up from a mistake.
Top class keepers want to play every week. Unless you have a good bright up and comming keeper who is willing to sit on the bench for a year or two. Given was never going to stay once he was second choice.
Joe has made some great saves at important times in games, yes he has made mistakes, what I like is the way he gets back up from a mistake.
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Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
Did we not discuss this?
Did we not discuss this?
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Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
Last season Hart was lucky to stay in the team with Given at the club. He was at fault for a number of goals during that season as he has been this season. Stupid basic keeping is his biggest fault. His concentration is poor and distribution is hit and miss.
Last season Hart was lucky to stay in the team with Given at the club. He was at fault for a number of goals during that season as he has been this season. Stupid basic keeping is his biggest fault. His concentration is poor and distribution is hit and miss.
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Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
-- Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:18 pm --
think his ditribution is always improving. He can kick it 30ft into the opposition half now, when he first came to the club he could get it over the half way line. His throwing has improved ten fold (Shay Given never tree it out ever). His accuracy at everything is getting better. Twelve months ago I'd say his distribution was hit and miss but not this season.
His one big downfall is parrying shots into dangerous areas. This needs to improve.
-- Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:18 pm --
Moaning?! Not one word of the OP's post was moaning!bluebannana said:we havent lost a game and hes probably the best keeper in the league stop moaning !
-- Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:18 pm --
I don't agree with this at all. I think Given is a very average goalkeeper. Joe Hart has so many more positives to his game. All goalkeepers are at fault for a number of goals at every club. His concentration isn't poor, he might have the odd lapse but so does everyone. Ileighton said:Last season Hart was lucky to stay in the team with Given at the club. He was at fault for a number of goals during that season as he has been this season. Stupid basic keeping is his biggest fault. His concentration is poor and distribution is hit and miss.
think his ditribution is always improving. He can kick it 30ft into the opposition half now, when he first came to the club he could get it over the half way line. His throwing has improved ten fold (Shay Given never tree it out ever). His accuracy at everything is getting better. Twelve months ago I'd say his distribution was hit and miss but not this season.
His one big downfall is parrying shots into dangerous areas. This needs to improve.
-- Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:18 pm --
If it weren't for Joe in Napoli we would have lost 4-1!Rammyblues said:IMO he seems to being found out in CL, hopefully he will learn from these mistakes which in turn will improve him as a player.
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Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
Disagree at Brum they only had Maik Taylor. Not that i know the in's and outs of what they do in training but kicking used to be one of his stronger points it seems to have gone a bit under Massimo Battaramansour's tow ropes said:While joe has still been decent in net this season, i think everyone must admit that he has made more errors than last season put together, several of which have led to silly goals being conceded.
He is not the only reason we are conceding more this season; we arent as defensive in games as we were last season, but i think he could have conceded a few less.
Now, could the reason behind this be the lack of a serious back up keeper? He is ubtouchable in our squad as costel is unlikely to become our regular number one. Last season he had given waiting in the wings and at birmingham he was not guaranteed a place in either the birmingham or city team, so he had to be on top of his game.
However, is the lack of a quality replacement leading to him becoming slightly complacement? Im sure his motivation is to help his club and his teammates and he isnt a selfish player, but i wonder if the lack of a proven gk on the bench has caused some of the errors?
Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
Off topic, but how much do you think Joe would be worth? I know he'd never be sold, he's City through and through, and after his comments when he signed a new contract I can fully envision him being a one man team, but he is a class keeper. Any guesses?
Off topic, but how much do you think Joe would be worth? I know he'd never be sold, he's City through and through, and after his comments when he signed a new contract I can fully envision him being a one man team, but he is a class keeper. Any guesses?
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Re: Joe Hart, a theory...
dont talk shiteleighton said:Last season Hart was lucky to stay in the team with Given at the club. He was at fault for a number of goals during that season as he has been this season. Stupid basic keeping is his biggest fault. His concentration is poor and distribution is hit and miss.