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Tim of the Oak said:
gocity said:
baildon blue said:
I hope Joe does have a look at Bluemoon . He let the club down big time yesterday . Getting a bit bored of this lets protect Joe Hart . The only people I feel sorry for are the City fans yesterday . They spent a lot of money to watch a monumental cock up from Joe Hart . Then they after watch Mourinho celebrate right in front of them .
He not only let us down but his team mates who had worked their B*******'S off for 90 mins to earn a point. Did you see the reaction. One at least was on his knee's beating the pitch in anguish / frustration.

Yes and Joe knows that better than anyone. Any more lessons in stating the obvious?
Did you go yesterday Timmy boy ? . I may be stating the obvious but the fans deserve better than that from Joe Hart . I bet your on the leave Joe alone and he will come good for us . I think Joe might need some lessons from Alex Williams . I remember in 1983 when Alex made save after save at Chelsea . And he was getting racist taunts from the Chelsea fans .
 
pudge said:
MihaiCity said:
pudge said:
And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........

But you miss the point, you should try harder...

If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?

Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?


sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.

So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?

My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.
Hart has been given the benefit of the doubt from the majority of the fans for a while now pudge. He's certainly had more than one strike. Yesterday was a defining moment for me, he has lost all his confidence and it's affected his decision making in a negative way.
If Pants came in and made similar errors then we're in deep shit until January because I don't see Hart coming out of his dip anytime soon.
 
Should we replace Hart with this guy?

Always someone worse off.....

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gmckennasell said:
Is it a coincidence that joes form has suffered since foreign goalkeeping coaches have taken over his training , we had an italian goalkeeping coach under mancini , now we have a spanish coach with pellegrini , perhaps the club should get the england goalkeeping coach watson from norwich , it makes sense to have the england goalkeeping coach , training the england goalie at an english club , no guarantee of success , but joe has gone backwards for over 18 months , and the recent coaching set up is definitely not working
(This doesnt apply to midfield players , god help us if ray wilkins or bryan robson started to teach david silva everything they know)
Not sure if its this thread or another,but i posted yesterday something similar,maybe a load of bollocks but lets think about it,joe has been brought up on and i take it by english goalkeeping coaches,has he or is he been told to do things slightly differently,ie regarding catching,punching and coming out of his area,english (british)coaches goalkeeping have always been highly regarded compared to their foreign counterparts....
 
Pablo1 said:
pudge said:
MihaiCity said:
sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.

So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?

My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.
Hart has been given the benefit of the doubt from the majority of the fans for a while now pudge. He's certainly had more than one strike. Yesterday was a defining moment for me, he has lost all his confidence and it's affected his decision making in a negative way.
If Pants came in and made similar errors then we're in deep shit until January because I don't see Hart coming out of his dip anytime soon.
So does Pantilimon get a safety net of knowing he can make x amounts of mistakes until he gets told off on here?

If Pants came in say against Norwich and did what Joe did Sunday, would he get a pass because Joe did for so long or would we want to "stop the bleeding" so to speak straight away?
 
pudge said:
MihaiCity said:
pudge said:
And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........

But you miss the point, you should try harder...

If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?

Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?


sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.

So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?

My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.

not really he was at the fault for their 2nd goal not only for just not try try and jump for that but for puttintg the wall wrong and at villa 3rd even if the main faults was on kompany and nasty he did nothing to at least try to block that goal the ball simply get past him...!!!!please take away you blue glasses for a moment it's not about what you said it's a bout that even a fucking 5 year-old kid can see the poor form joe is now...he is off form very clear need to get off for some time and pants need a chance to prove...apart from that mistake in the CS 2012 if i'm right he never let us down...so yes i'm on my point play pants see if joe is reactioning and get back to his best form if not then sell and get begovic
 
pudge said:
MihaiCity said:
pudge said:
And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........

But you miss the point, you should try harder...

If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?

Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?


sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...


Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.

So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?

My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.

Cant agree , the majority of city supporters have backed joe , and joe has had over ten strikes , and he is still in the team , if pants makes a mistake , i believe he would get the same chances we have given joe , dont know why you "imagine" city supporters would not give a player a fair chance to establish himself in the side . This forum is not a reflection of the supporters opinions who go to the games , there a lot of closet rags , overseas plastics , and sky remote control experts venting their spleen on this forum , take them with a pinch of salt.
 
baildon blue said:
Tim of the Oak said:
gocity said:
He not only let us down but his team mates who had worked their B*******'S off for 90 mins to earn a point. Did you see the reaction. One at least was on his knee's beating the pitch in anguish / frustration.

Yes and Joe knows that better than anyone. Any more lessons in stating the obvious?
Did you go yesterday Timmy boy ? . I may be stating the obvious but the fans deserve better than that from Joe Hart . I bet your on the leave Joe alone and he will come good for us . I think Joe might need some lessons from Alex Williams . I remember in 1983 when Alex made save after save at Chelsea . And he was getting racist taunts from the Chelsea fans .

Yes I was there Baildon Blue and like many others was gutted at the cock up and result. I think it is time Pants got his chance and was pissed off to see Joe in goals in the Cup Final.

That said. I think we need to be fair to Joe and recognise that he has had more good games than bad over the last few years. He will be gutted more than me - although he probably didn't have to stand up on the train for 8 hours to get to Chelski and back home.
 
pudge said:
@BluePhil8 said:
pudge said:
So Pants comes in and makes a cock-up a la Community Shield 2012.....

Richard Wright or back to Joe?
He's played 12 and kept 7 clean sheets, yet you bring up the only semi-mistake he has made (which didn't cost us the game). Try harder.
And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........

But you miss the point, you should try harder...

If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?

Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?

Players should be picked on form. Joe Hart is well out of form so he should be dropped. Pants has never let us down so should be given a chance.
 
MihaiCity said:
pudge said:
MihaiCity said:
sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.

So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?

My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.

not really he was at the fault for their 2nd goal not only for just not try try and jump for that but for puttintg the wall wrong and at villa 3rd even if the main faults was on kompany and nasty he did nothing to at least try to block that goal the ball simply get past him...!!!!please take away you blue glasses for a moment it's not about what you said it's a bout that even a fucking 5 year-old kid can see the poor form joe is now...he is off form very clear need to get off for some time and pants need a chance to prove...apart from that mistake in the CS 2012 if i'm right he never let us down...so yes i'm on my point play pants see if joe is reactioning and get back to his best form if not then sell and get begovic
But you don't address my point?

If Pants gets the shirt, what happens when he makes a mistake?

Do we allow him as many as Joe has had?
 
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