Did you go yesterday Timmy boy ? . I may be stating the obvious but the fans deserve better than that from Joe Hart . I bet your on the leave Joe alone and he will come good for us . I think Joe might need some lessons from Alex Williams . I remember in 1983 when Alex made save after save at Chelsea . And he was getting racist taunts from the Chelsea fans .Tim of the Oak said:gocity said:He not only let us down but his team mates who had worked their B*******'S off for 90 mins to earn a point. Did you see the reaction. One at least was on his knee's beating the pitch in anguish / frustration.baildon blue said:I hope Joe does have a look at Bluemoon . He let the club down big time yesterday . Getting a bit bored of this lets protect Joe Hart . The only people I feel sorry for are the City fans yesterday . They spent a lot of money to watch a monumental cock up from Joe Hart . Then they after watch Mourinho celebrate right in front of them .
Yes and Joe knows that better than anyone. Any more lessons in stating the obvious?
Hart has been given the benefit of the doubt from the majority of the fans for a while now pudge. He's certainly had more than one strike. Yesterday was a defining moment for me, he has lost all his confidence and it's affected his decision making in a negative way.pudge said:Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.MihaiCity said:pudge said:And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........
But you miss the point, you should try harder...
If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?
Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?
sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?
My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.
Not sure if its this thread or another,but i posted yesterday something similar,maybe a load of bollocks but lets think about it,joe has been brought up on and i take it by english goalkeeping coaches,has he or is he been told to do things slightly differently,ie regarding catching,punching and coming out of his area,english (british)coaches goalkeeping have always been highly regarded compared to their foreign counterparts....gmckennasell said:Is it a coincidence that joes form has suffered since foreign goalkeeping coaches have taken over his training , we had an italian goalkeeping coach under mancini , now we have a spanish coach with pellegrini , perhaps the club should get the england goalkeeping coach watson from norwich , it makes sense to have the england goalkeeping coach , training the england goalie at an english club , no guarantee of success , but joe has gone backwards for over 18 months , and the recent coaching set up is definitely not working
(This doesnt apply to midfield players , god help us if ray wilkins or bryan robson started to teach david silva everything they know)
So does Pantilimon get a safety net of knowing he can make x amounts of mistakes until he gets told off on here?Pablo1 said:Hart has been given the benefit of the doubt from the majority of the fans for a while now pudge. He's certainly had more than one strike. Yesterday was a defining moment for me, he has lost all his confidence and it's affected his decision making in a negative way.pudge said:Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.MihaiCity said:sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?
My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.
If Pants came in and made similar errors then we're in deep shit until January because I don't see Hart coming out of his dip anytime soon.
pudge said:Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.MihaiCity said:pudge said:And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........
But you miss the point, you should try harder...
If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?
Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?
sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?
My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.
pudge said:MihaiCity said:pudge said:And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........
But you miss the point, you should try harder...
If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?
Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?
sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.
So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?
My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.
baildon blue said:Did you go yesterday Timmy boy ? . I may be stating the obvious but the fans deserve better than that from Joe Hart . I bet your on the leave Joe alone and he will come good for us . I think Joe might need some lessons from Alex Williams . I remember in 1983 when Alex made save after save at Chelsea . And he was getting racist taunts from the Chelsea fans .Tim of the Oak said:gocity said:He not only let us down but his team mates who had worked their B*******'S off for 90 mins to earn a point. Did you see the reaction. One at least was on his knee's beating the pitch in anguish / frustration.
Yes and Joe knows that better than anyone. Any more lessons in stating the obvious?
pudge said:And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........@BluePhil8 said:He's played 12 and kept 7 clean sheets, yet you bring up the only semi-mistake he has made (which didn't cost us the game). Try harder.pudge said:So Pants comes in and makes a cock-up a la Community Shield 2012.....
Richard Wright or back to Joe?
But you miss the point, you should try harder...
If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?
Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?
But you don't address my point?MihaiCity said:pudge said:Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.MihaiCity said:sryy pudge i'm with blue on \this ...do you realise that hart cost us ON ALL the DEFEATS on the away games this season????????? and it's not all about these mistakes it's about that he had become poor for more than 1 YEAR already and this is very worring for us....do you really still want him in the net from now on to keep making howlers like he did yesterday????? really???by me has to be pants in the net for the rest of the season and IF hart don't start to improve again and be the GK he was 2-3 yrs ago then sell ASAP in the summer and go for begovic or cassillas..this is only my point...
So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?
My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.
not really he was at the fault for their 2nd goal not only for just not try try and jump for that but for puttintg the wall wrong and at villa 3rd even if the main faults was on kompany and nasty he did nothing to at least try to block that goal the ball simply get past him...!!!!please take away you blue glasses for a moment it's not about what you said it's a bout that even a fucking 5 year-old kid can see the poor form joe is now...he is off form very clear need to get off for some time and pants need a chance to prove...apart from that mistake in the CS 2012 if i'm right he never let us down...so yes i'm on my point play pants see if joe is reactioning and get back to his best form if not then sell and get begovic
Jesus!BlueForever123 said:Always someone worse off.....
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I don't know the answer to that mate. I'd like to think that whoever our number one is won't make basic mistakes on a regular basis.pudge said:So does Pantilimon get a safety net of knowing he can make x amounts of mistakes until he gets told off on here?Pablo1 said:Hart has been given the benefit of the doubt from the majority of the fans for a while now pudge. He's certainly had more than one strike. Yesterday was a defining moment for me, he has lost all his confidence and it's affected his decision making in a negative way.pudge said:Villa was Kompany and Nastasic to be fair.
So if Pants goes into nets for the rest of the season he can cock-up to his hearts extent? Or just 3 years, when we'll then start this cycle over again?
My point is that those who want Joe gone won't surely put up with any more goalkeeping mistakes from whoever's in nets? 1 strike your gone from now on I'd imagine.
If Pants came in and made similar errors then we're in deep shit until January because I don't see Hart coming out of his dip anytime soon.
If Pants came in say against Norwich and did what Joe did Sunday, would he get a pass because Joe did for so long or would we want to "stop the bleeding" so to speak straight away?
I'm all for Pants getting a shot in nets but IF he made a mistake, one that cost us the match, then what then?cookster said:pudge said:And Joe's kept over 70 clean sheets........@BluePhil8 said:He's played 12 and kept 7 clean sheets, yet you bring up the only semi-mistake he has made (which didn't cost us the game). Try harder.
But you miss the point, you should try harder...
If people are saying Joe's had too many chances/should've been dropped donkey's ago then surely if Pants made a mistake he should be gone too?
Do we then go back to Joe or do we give Wrighty a chance to get back in the England squad?
Players should be picked on form. Joe Hart is well out of form so he should be dropped. Pants has never let us down so should be given a chance.
Pablo1 said:It was the post directly after yours that I was replying to, although I did mention whoever posted it alluded to it being another Nastisic mistake.JoeMercer'sWay said:Pablo1 said:Yeah I know, I thought Nastasic had made the pass back because whoever posted the clip alluded to it. The back pass was the issue on that occasion.
No I didn't, nor did I blame anybody for it, I merely saw it on youtube and labelled it what it was, a "defensive mishap".
Sick of people spouting what they wanted others to say as fact to get them out of a hole or to look better to people who can't be arsed reading properly,
-- Oct 28th, '13, 20:50 --
pee dubya said:Valdes is leaving for free in the Summer! Big wages of course, but a keeper of his quality, out of contract, doesn't come along too often.
first multiple choice question for Victor on joining:
Victor, how will you deal with a cross into the box?
a) miss it whilst trying to catch it.
b) miss it whilst trying to punch it.
c) miss it whilst doing some weird fit of an attempt to get anywhere near it.
d) drop it whilst trying to catch it.
e) attempt to punch it, resulting in you fracturing the skull of the nearest player to you and in the process missing the ball.
That doesn't make me somebody who "spouts off" or tries to get myself out of a hole, or trying to make myself look better than somebody else.
I've probably said more on this subject tonight than I have any other since I joined up, the reason being its a fucking important one. Thinking I'd use it as a point scoring exercise is bollocks.
Get a fucking grip you soft ****JoeMercer'sWay said:Pablo1 said:It was the post directly after yours that I was replying to, although I did mention whoever posted it alluded to it being another Nastisic mistake.JoeMercer'sWay said:No I didn't, nor did I blame anybody for it, I merely saw it on youtube and labelled it what it was, a "defensive mishap".
Sick of people spouting what they wanted others to say as fact to get them out of a hole or to look better to people who can't be arsed reading properly,
-- Oct 28th, '13, 20:50 --
first multiple choice question for Victor on joining:
Victor, how will you deal with a cross into the box?
a) miss it whilst trying to catch it.
b) miss it whilst trying to punch it.
c) miss it whilst doing some weird fit of an attempt to get anywhere near it.
d) drop it whilst trying to catch it.
e) attempt to punch it, resulting in you fracturing the skull of the nearest player to you and in the process missing the ball.
That doesn't make me somebody who "spouts off" or tries to get myself out of a hole, or trying to make myself look better than somebody else.
I've probably said more on this subject tonight than I have any other since I joined up, the reason being its a fucking important one. Thinking I'd use it as a point scoring exercise is bollocks.
Well I didn't, so really the only bollocks is the bollocks you wrote claiming I said as such.
Pablo1 said:Get a fucking grip you soft ****JoeMercer'sWay said:Pablo1 said:It was the post directly after yours that I was replying to, although I did mention whoever posted it alluded to it being another Nastisic mistake.
That doesn't make me somebody who "spouts off" or tries to get myself out of a hole, or trying to make myself look better than somebody else.
I've probably said more on this subject tonight than I have any other since I joined up, the reason being its a fucking important one. Thinking I'd use it as a point scoring exercise is bollocks.
Well I didn't, so really the only bollocks is the bollocks you wrote claiming I said as such.
Firstly I don't think Pantimillion will let us down as badly as some fear. He hasn't shown any sign of doing so in the games he has played. He also needs a fair crack at the whip and not be berated at the first error(s)pudge said:I mean, IF Pants got the job and started to under-perform at some point would there be calls to give Joe another chance?
Genuine question.