joe hart

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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Britpop95 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
one of the best talented young keepers around, if mancini would have sold him it would have been the most stupid decision ever. Glad mancini is gone now


Crikey that last statement there seems harsh. Not too disappointed he's move on or perhaps it was time to go, yeah......but 'glad he's gone'? Fair enough, game of opinions and we pay our money and all the rest of it.

He was a great manager for us, but finding out he might have sold hart does make me glad hes gone because it would have been a terrible decision

Yes but in any line of work when a person goes above their manager's head to go to the board it becomes personal. Why would Mancini and Platt be immune to Joe's alleged behaviour. Let's not forget the Joe (who has been great for us in the main) started the friction by slating the defence in Madrid with Mancini having to stand up for the back four.

The defence let Joe down today who made a few cracking Saves but I am afraid he has heaped pressure on himself by levering himself into the Cup Fin Team.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
ballinio said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
He was a great manager for us, but finding out he might have sold hart does make me glad hes gone because it would have been a terrible decision
no it wouldnt, hart is an average keeper , nothing more.

he clearly isnt an average keeper, the dortmund game last season proved how good he is, as on many other occasions. add in all the golden glove awards and being in teams of the year, but yeah hes average...........................
he was fantastic in the Dortmund game but tell me another game where you came out & thought, wow, hart was brilliant today. none thats howmany, doesnt command his area, poor at free kicks because he`s generally rooted to the spot because he`s doesnt move along the line quickly.oh & his kicking is still shit.Like i said ,average.
 
ballinio said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
ballinio said:
no it wouldnt, hart is an average keeper , nothing more.

he clearly isnt an average keeper, the dortmund game last season proved how good he is, as on many other occasions. add in all the golden glove awards and being in teams of the year, but yeah hes average...........................
he was fantastic in the Dortmund game but tell me another game where you came out & thought, wow, hart was brilliant today. none thats howmany, doesnt command his area, poor at free kicks because he`s generally rooted to the spot because he`s doesnt move along the line quickly.oh & his kicking is still shit.Like i said ,average.

spurs :)
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
ballinio said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
he clearly isnt an average keeper, the dortmund game last season proved how good he is, as on many other occasions. add in all the golden glove awards and being in teams of the year, but yeah hes average...........................
he was fantastic in the Dortmund game but tell me another game where you came out & thought, wow, hart was brilliant today. none thats howmany, doesnt command his area, poor at free kicks because he`s generally rooted to the spot because he`s doesnt move along the line quickly.oh & his kicking is still shit.Like i said ,average.

spurs :)
great.....i take it all back.
 
People love to mock the supposed 'Rag media's' obsession with below average English players like Jones and Welbeck - but this has been going on for some time on this forum with Hart - if he was French this thread would have another 100 pages on it.
 
Just a thought ... but wasn't Joe lobbying to bring in Dave Watson as goalkeeping coach? Watson is credited with Joe's rapid improvement at Birmingham and is the England goalkeeping coach. Manuel evidently ruled that out and brought in his own guy from Malaga, Xabier Mancisidor. Could be one factor in Joe's wobbles? Before the start of last season, Mancini changed the defensive coach and brought in one of his mates from Italy, a guy called Gregucci who didn't speak a word of English and had been bombed out of 8 or 9 teams in 10 years. That was a disaster, the best defence in the country was completely screwed up with all that back three rubbish. Maybe Joe and Xabier aren't on the same page yet?
 
Wretched Vengeance said:
What bothers me about Hart, is, how often he comes to claim a ball......rarely.

If I am defending I want confidence my keeper is commanding and will clear everything, and either catch it, or punch it clear. Hart all too often ends up doing nothing.

Far too many deficiencies creeping into his game for a number of months now.
Yep, an area where Pants excels. Joe rarely catches anything but the simplest crosses, very rarely comes off his line, occasionally gets a good punch in but flaps at a lot of other crosses, a lot of this went unnoticed last season but it is now costing us.It seemed to start when he dropped a simple cross from a corner in the first game of Euro 2012. Pants should be given his chance which is now long overdue and Joe needs to get back to basics and work on corners and crosses.
 
So busy pushing the Cardiff forward around he wasn't watching the ball. Not clever when you are a goalkeeper.

If Mancini wanted him gone I reckon there might be more than football behind it, I hope Joe has not been swayed by the the 'sex drugs and rock n roll' lifestyle or something.

He ain't the keeper he was. Fact.
 
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