joe hart

[Blue2112]

The thing was Nasty had a few yards on Torres and it wasn't as if Torres was going past him. Hart could have seen that quite clearly if only he engaged his brain and realise that as Nasty was gonna get to the ball first the obvious thing was a header back. He rushes out all the time and like at Villa it's fucking cost us.

 

[@BluePhil8]

Simply not good enough, a keeper should be number one priority in the summer, until then Pantilimon will do.

Summer?

And what? Have Hart cost us even more points? Bid for Casillas and Valdes in January.

Did you see Valdes yesterday?

No to be honest, and I'd much rather have Iker. But I've just had it with Hart now. I don't care who it is, Begovic would probably be an improvement.

 

[JetBlue]

If you keep picking a player regardless of his performance - why should he strive to improve himself? All players need to have the mentality that there is room for improvement and practice/play accordingly by doing so they at least have a reasonable chance of maintaining the level they already have.
Harts level is going backwards and the type of mistakes like todays are amateurish.

 

[Armaan]

Begovic is the best keeper in the league.... Please Pellegrini please.

 

[pudge]

Having an argument with you is like having an argument with my wife. You're obviously right!

Having an argument would mean there's two contributions towards the point, not nonsensical unfunny quips tbf.

So with that I'm clearly not having an argument with you.

You really are like my wife, sulking now because you're wrong but won't admit it. Diddums.

I see nor hear any sulking, you haven't addressed the point when engaging in discussion with me, "diddums".

My point is it's not ALL Joe's fault, if you wish to argue that then I'm all for it.

But posting unfunny bollocks about you and your wife's relationship doesn't add to anything.

 

[VOOMER]

the balls coming down then if Nastasic is heading it?

And Joe was coming on to it..... maybe it might have dropped given the laws of physics.

Or even then, keepers have heads too!!

Shocking revelation for you I take it

Having an argument with you is like having an argument with my wife. You're obviously right!

Having an argument would mean there's two contributions towards the point, not nonsensical unfunny quips tbf.

So with that I'm clearly not having an argument with you.

Your wrong. Nasty, was holding of Torres and looking to head back that was clear for everyone to see. You could see Torres slowing because Nasty had it covered He headed back so Hart could use his hands. But no, Hart yet again makes an appalling decision with no logic, or reason. He is an average to good keeper and not good enough for us. Say Nasty gets beaten to the ball by Torres, because the cock has rushed out Torres would simply nod it over him. Which ever way you look at it Hart screwed up,, again.

 

[OABAAB]

Joe has become a liabilty. At the moment I would be far more confident with Pantillimon in goal.

 

[BlueTG]

Summer?

And what? Have Hart cost us even more points? Bid for Casillas and Valdes in January.

Did you see Valdes yesterday?

No to be honest, and I'd much rather have Iker. But I've just had it with Hart now. I don't care who it is, Begovic would probably be an improvement.

You'd soon care if the replacement wasn't adequate enough, 'probably' an improvement.. well what a concrete reason to go buy him then.

 

[mgreenz97]

I don't think this was a mistake purely made today, it's been building up because there's regularly confusion between Hart and the central defenders. Countless times the defenders are obviously wanting Hart to come and just pick it up, but he stays on his line and they end up clearing it. This time Hart has decided for some reason to come charging out of his box, with Nastasic fully in control of the situation. Nastasic hasn't looked because this is totally out of Hart's normal behaviour, he doesn't come for much easier balls, why should he expect it this time?

So your saying Nastasic's incorrect assumption is Hart's fault?
Makes sense.

Well yes, if he was expecting Hart to be flying out like that he wouldn't have headed it past him, he didn't expect it for a reason: it doesn't normally happen. Both Hart and Nastasic could have prevented this happening, Hart by staying on the line, Nastasic by looking. But Hart is the one who made the worse decision. Both need to take some blame, i think Harts' share is bigger though.

Nastasic shouldn't be making decisions based on assumptions.
Hart had started to come so he had to come all the way or he'd have been caught in no mans land.
There's nothing wrong with his decision to come out because he was getting there well before Torres.
Nastasic however, has just headed the ball to where he expects Hart to be, despite Hart letting Nastasic know very loudly that he was coming for the ball.

 

[pudge]

Having an argument with you is like having an argument with my wife. You're obviously right!

Having an argument would mean there's two contributions towards the point, not nonsensical unfunny quips tbf.

So with that I'm clearly not having an argument with you.

Your wrong. Nasty, was holding of Torres and looking to head back that was clear for everyone to see. You could see Torres slowing because Nasty had it covered He headed back so Hart could use his hands. But no, Hart yet again makes an appalling decision with no logic, or reason. He is an average to good keeper and not good enough for us. Say Nasty gets beaten to the ball by Torres, because the cock has rushed out Torres would simply nod it over him. Which ever way you look at it Hart screwed up,, again.

I'd say they both did given how it played out;

Once Joe comes out there's no need for the header.

Or

Joe shouldn't come out at all.

Given he did, there's fault on both ends.

 

[talkativesprout]

Re: It's Time to Drop Joe

how may of these threads are necessary?

Depends if you see it coming or not...apparently :)

 

[kippaxchris]

So your saying Nastasic's incorrect assumption is Hart's fault?
Makes sense.

Well yes, if he was expecting Hart to be flying out like that he wouldn't have headed it past him, he didn't expect it for a reason: it doesn't normally happen. Both Hart and Nastasic could have prevented this happening, Hart by staying on the line, Nastasic by looking. But Hart is the one who made the worse decision. Both need to take some blame, i think Harts' share is bigger though.

Nastasic shouldn't be making decisions based on assumptions.
Hart had started to come so he had to come all the way or he'd have been caught in no mans land.
There's nothing wrong with his decision to come out because he was getting there well before Torres.
Nastasic however, has just headed the ball to where he expects Hart to be, despite Hart letting Nastasic know very loudly that he was coming for the ball.

And neither should Hart do you not understand?

What is wrong with you? He was in no mans land the minute he left his line! WOW

And so was Nastasic

Every comment you just made was pathetic

 

[@BluePhil8]

Did you see Valdes yesterday?

No to be honest, and I'd much rather have Iker. But I've just had it with Hart now. I don't care who it is, Begovic would probably be an improvement.

You'd soon care if the replacement wasn't adequate enough, 'probably' an improvement.. well what a concrete reason to go buy him then.

What the fuck do you want me to say? I'm not a fucking football scout. All I know is that Hart is costing us to many points over a consistent period of time. I'll let our director of football find his replacement since that isn't my job.

 

[Outlaw]

Re: It's Time to Drop Joe

Nastasic was in control of the situation; Hart should have waited "inside" his area, not to charge like he did!

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Yet again it doesn't matter what he shouted! He should NOT have been coming in the first place.

Nasty should have booted it into row Z long before then, Joe had to come as he thought Torres was getting to the ball first, which he more than likely was. It was a massive blunder by Nastasic but it's his one I can recall, I'm sure he'll bounce back.

Torres clearly getting to the ball, so how does Anastasia head it past Hart then?

Hart's fault, end of.

He left Hart outside alone.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Re: It's Time to Drop Joe

Don't think ive ever seen so much personal abuse on here towards our own player. Bluemoon seems very angry tonight

 

[City_Sean]

Begovic in January, far too many mistakes.

 

[mgreenz97]

Well yes, if he was expecting Hart to be flying out like that he wouldn't have headed it past him, he didn't expect it for a reason: it doesn't normally happen. Both Hart and Nastasic could have prevented this happening, Hart by staying on the line, Nastasic by looking. But Hart is the one who made the worse decision. Both need to take some blame, i think Harts' share is bigger though.

Nastasic shouldn't be making decisions based on assumptions.
Hart had started to come so he had to come all the way or he'd have been caught in no mans land.
There's nothing wrong with his decision to come out because he was getting there well before Torres.
Nastasic however, has just headed the ball to where he expects Hart to be, despite Hart letting Nastasic know very loudly that he was coming for the ball.

And neither should Hart do you not understand?

What assumption exactly has Hart made?
That Nasty wouldn't gift Torres a goal?
Because he's bang out of order if he was expecting to not concede there.

 

[pee dubya]

So your saying Nastasic's incorrect assumption is Hart's fault?
Makes sense.

Well yes, if he was expecting Hart to be flying out like that he wouldn't have headed it past him, he didn't expect it for a reason: it doesn't normally happen. Both Hart and Nastasic could have prevented this happening, Hart by staying on the line, Nastasic by looking. But Hart is the one who made the worse decision. Both need to take some blame, i think Harts' share is bigger though.

Nastasic shouldn't be making decisions based on assumptions.
Hart had started to come so he had to come all the way or he'd have been caught in no mans land.
There's nothing wrong with his decision to come out because he was getting there well before Torres.
Nastasic however, has just headed the ball to where he expects Hart to be, despite Hart letting Nastasic know very loudly that he was coming for the ball.

Hart instigated the entire thing. If he stays where he is, nothing happens, nothing has the potential to happen. It would have just been a long ball nodded back to the keeper. It's not a decision Nastasic should have had to make, the keeper should not be putting his defender in that situation.

 

[BlueTG]

Simply not good enough, a keeper should be number one priority in the summer, until then Pantilimon will do.

The thing is though, will he? If we had a keeper of Lopez or Begovic's quality in the squad I have no doubt they would have featured instead of Hart by now. Pants has made mistakes in the small amount of games he's played for us, and he doesn't exactly fill me with confidence when he starts, and clearly doesn't for the manager otherwise we would have seen him play.

Panti will do?? Hes better than that! (for first comment)

Panti is a good keeper he didn't make mistakes against Villa in the league cup like a lot of Hart fans try to say ,he just wasn't very good! He also made a mistake in the semi final against Chelsea but that didn't cost us a goal fortunately, and in that same game he made some match winning saves!

But what you have to understand with Panti he doesn't get regular football like Hart does he only gets a game every couple of months yet he still does good! He has made magnificent saves and has had man of the match performances when he has had a chance. So to say he makes mistakes as well is very very harsh as he has never ever made a proper mistake like Hart constantly does!

To be honest, I couldn't recall you all the games he has played in, but someone pointed out a few mistakes.
Just, for me at least, theres a reason why we haven't seen him feature when he probably should have. Granted he made some excellent saves in that semi final but I also question his attitude for the interview he so cleverly decided to do in the cup final week.

Also he fucked up in the community shield, granted it wasn't match changing.