John Stones

[Dr Jacoby]

Has there been confirmation of an unsuccessful bid?

£40m seems like a fair valuation in today's market, and one would think that both parties would be satisfied with that fee.

 

[manimanc]

At what stage does stones throw in a transfer request?

 

[cibaman]

There may be as many examples of players we didn't overpay for and were proved right. I can't think of any but there might be. I trust the club.

I don't think the issue is overpaying as such. Its saying "this is our final offer" (if that's what we have done) and then caving in and paying full whack. If we're prepared to pay £50m for Stones then fair enough. But if we have said £40m is our final offer, then we shouldn't up it by more than pennies.

 

[Marvin]

Everton were said to have turned down £40M from Chelsea last year since when prices have gone up because of the TV money and Everton have apparently got richer owners. I can't see the fee being much less than £50M if one is agreed, whether or not he is worth the money only time will tell. We've certainly shelled out big money for center halfs in the past from Lescott to Mangala.

It was less than that, and he had a bad season. I think you have to have a degree of good faith to the player after he's you an extra 12 months. Kenwright had 12 months to sort a replacement out. Asking for £50m for the player is unreasonable

 

[oakiecokie]

At what stage does stones throw in a transfer request?

Well he`s supposedly told them he wants to leave and play for Pep,so I`ll take that as a transfer request.

 

[manimanc]

Isn't the delay because of the sell on fee to Barnsley? What is it 15%?

 

[Cityfan]

It was less than that, and he had a bad season. I think you have to have a degree of good faith to the player after he's you an extra 12 months. Kenwright had 12 months to sort a replacement out. Asking for £50m for the player is unreasonable

£38M was the figure that was quoted which realistically would have gone to £40 if negotiations had started.
I don't think reasonable has a lot to do with it we paid an unreasonable fee for Mangala and Lescott . The fee will be what it will be, or not if we don't play ball, what you or I consider reasonable will play no part.

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

At what stage does stones throw in a transfer request?

Hi mate, He's already told them he wants to leave, I not sure a official transfer request would do any more to help push the deal. It was reported that he put in a transfer request last summer, when Chelsea made 3 bids for him and Everton rejected it..I guess the only way this gets done is if we somehow agree an add-on package similar to that of Sane. (maybe 40mil + 8mil add-ons?) If Stones triggered those targets for the add-ons, it would likely mean, he's proven his worth anyway.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ansfer-request-not-his-doing-roberto-martinez

 

[Dribble]

I don't think that's fair. Stones has told Everton he wants to leave, and that City are the team he wants to join. He can't really do much more. It's not for him to dictate the price, that's for the two clubs to resolve.

There's another way of looking at it. Fernandinho apparently gave up a loyalty bonus he was due to ensure his transfer to us went through he was that set on the move.

I'm not suggesting Stones gets a placard made and forms a picket picket line outside Finch Farm and goes on strike, but if was to apply constant friendly pressure on his current bosses for them to be reasonable about the price quoted, it would soon start to sink in that they are in danger of having an unmotivated want-away player on their hands which would do their squad harmony no good.

Stones should also tell Everton that if the transfer falls through because of their high valuation, that he will no longer be committed to a future at the club and will just run down his contract, OR he would want a wage increase in-line with that of a £50m player. That would soon clear the nostrils of Everton's hierarchy.

 

[mosssideblue]

How about using Bony and Denayer in the Stones deal given that chelsea want Lakaku and Everton will need to replace Stones

How do you know they would want to go there?

 

[manimanc]

Hi mate, He's already told them he wants to leave, I not sure a official transfer request would do any more to help push the deal. It was reported that he put in a transfer request last summer, when Chelsea made 3 bids for him and Everton rejected it..I guess the only way this gets done is if we somehow agree an add-on package similar to that of Sane. (maybe 40mil + 8 add-ons?) If Stones triggered those targets for the add-ons, it would likely mean, he's proven his worth anyway.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ansfer-request-not-his-doing-roberto-martinez

Hi pal I didn't know that he'd done that already. Guess it's just a matter of time and us being patient.

 

[mosssideblue]

Has there been confirmation of an unsuccessful bid?

£40m seems like a fair valuation in today's market, and one would think that both parties would be satisfied with that fee.

Dont think Everton think that way, and why should they?

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

Hi pal I didn't know that he'd done that already. Guess it's just a matter of time and us being patient.

I agree mate...This transfer has shown me "patience" is not one of my strong points!;)

 

[blue b4 the moon]

However we look at it Pep has identified 3 centre halfs, the Spaniard was missed out on by his own actions, the Italian seems dead in the water and this one is dragging on/stalling.

I'm certainly no flapper but we haven't done well improving the back so far.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

However we look at it Pep has identified 3 centre halfs, the Spaniard was missed out on by his own actions, the Italian seems dead in the water and this one is dragging on/stalling.

I'm certainly no flapper but we haven't done well improving the back so far.

The spaniard is french

 

[blue b4 the moon]

The spaniard is french

Yeah ok, but you know what I mean.

 

[Dribble]

Well he`s supposedly told them he wants to leave and play for Pep,so I`ll take that as a transfer request.

Transfer requests have to be written, I think what Stones had done is to officially make his feelings known which falls short of an official transfer request. This is what I meant before when I said Stones can do more to help facilitate this move. It looks like there will come a point where Stones will have to stop trying to be everyone's friend and stand up to officially make his his wishes and intentions known.

As it stands he's apparently just sat on the sidelines letting the situation play itself out, therefore endangering the move. Over to you Johnny Boy..........

 

[mosssideblue]

Transfer requests have to be written, I think what Stones had done is to officially make his feelings known which falls short of an official transfer request. This is what I meant before when I said Stones can do more to help facilitate this move. It looks like there will come a point where Stones will have to stop trying to be everyone's friend and stand up to officially make his his wishes and intentions known.

As it stands he's apparently just sat on the sidelines letting the situation play itself out, therefore endangering the move. Over to you Johnny Boy..........

I think he is right to sit and let the clubs sort this out.

 

[razman]

Transfer requests have to be written, I think what Stones had done is to officially make his feelings known which falls short of an official transfer request. This is what I meant before when I said Stones can do more to help facilitate this move. It looks like there will come a point where Stones will have to stop trying to be everyone's friend and stand up to officially make his his wishes and intentions known.

As it stands he's apparently just sat on the sidelines letting the situation play itself out, therefore endangering the move. Over to you Johnny Boy..........

he did give an official transfer request last summer too when chelsea were after him, but Everton stood firm

 

[Marvin]

Dont think Everton think that way, and why should they?

I've already made these points before but again:

1) I think the record fee paid for an English player was £45m for Sterling. The world record fee for a defender is £50m for Luiz. £40m is a massive fee. It's hardly a case of getting him on the cheap. And a few months ago, Everton fans came on here telling us about Moshiri's Billions and how it was a new start for EFC etc. What is the point of holding out for even more money when you are wealthy? False economy leaving it to the end when you have to replace the player.

2) Kenwright has managed to ratchet the fee up to £40 million. Well done. The rest of football would think it ridiculous if City paid that let alone £50m. To say you're not going to discuss anything less than £50m is seriously disrespectful to the player and would put the relationship between club and player at risk.

I don't think Everton had any intention of finding the best deal for Stones which really they have an obligation to do when the player says they want to leave.