John Stones

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

You can see City compromising at whatever you want mate.

Everton will not be selling for less than £50m. It's not up for debate. This is straight from the top.

Hope we have someone else lined up then ;)

 

[flb]

If my workplace refused me a move to a better place of work on two separate occassions and placed a value on me far exceeding my current worth yet were reluctant to pay me a wage reflecting that value then yes, I'd wipe my arse with their sham of an offer. Fuck the paper cuts.

Everton didn't offer him a contract and wage reflective of their valuation of him when Chelsea came knocking, why do it again or why would he buy into it should they decide to offer him a new deal just so they can ask for more once again next season.

Everton will forever be midtable, investment/TV money or not, and you're denying a player his request to get out and bettter his career. I'd hope he'd shit at the gate first before taking any contract off your hands first.

We have a winner!

 

[mosssideblue]

He might come to City and he might end up being an excellent player. He might do both but, what I struggle with, is how he's worth 17 times more now than he was 3 years ago?
The lads only played 100 league games and a quarter of them were for Barnsley. Since he signed Everton have played 153 competitive games and he's played in 95 of them, quite a few as substitute. It seems to me that Everton don't actually value him that highly until it's time to fleece City, once again. Let him stay there and let's see how his value changes over the last three years of his contract. He might be a blinding player by then..

tbf, it wasnt just us. They priced themselves out last year with the chavs

 

[pudge]

He must be the only £50m player earning £30k a week, or in other terms, less than Arouna Koné amd Aaron Lennon...

 

[BringBackSwales]

Its not that simple though, last year he was very professional through it all. His form dipped but it wasn't due to him sulking, it was due to Martinez's management and Style. He wasn't the only one, Barry, McCarthy, Barkley and even Lukaku looked bereft of confidence and looked poor.

He still has 3 years left on a £30k a week deal. If he doesn't get the move (which I fully believe he will) then I can see him signing a new deal on £100k a week with an actual release clause.

There is a big difference this time, I think he has a strong desire to play for Pep. I agree with you that his behaviour this season after the collapse of the Chelsea move has been exemplary

 

[BlueAnorak]

Any young player who is half decent who signs a deal without a buyout clause - especially a long contract needs their head examining or needs to get better agent. One or the other.

 

[stony]

You can see City compromising at whatever you want mate.

Everton will not be selling for less than £50m. It's not up for debate. This is straight from the top.

Heard it before when Moyes said Lescott wasn't moving for less than £30M. We paid about £22M in the end.

 

[efcblue]

Hope we have someone else lined up then ;)

I'm sure you do!

And if he leaves before the window shuts, you don't think clubs will take advantage of your position and add a few Million to the price. of course they will.

He's an Everton player and you can sell him for what you like, but if you see a world record fee then you are effectively disregarding and ignoring his transfer request. Your look out. Having a look at your squad seems obvious that you could do with investing some of those millions in the team.

We have money. We need to spend it. As it stands, we're well within the FFP threshold. The issue is convincing the big names to come to Everton. Selling Stones isn't going to help, which is why it's no issue to us (more of a positive) if he is kept. If he does leave, it'll be for the most money possible and not a penny less.

One of the Everton fans who posts on here said that Stones has 3 years left on a £30k a week deal.

Then an Everton fan (might have been the same one) said that Stones will get an extra £50k a week on a new deal.

So why would Stones accept an £80k a week deal at a club he has wanted out of for the past 2 seasons?

Because 12 months is a long time and any human being would accept an extra £2,600,000 over that period.

Why did Suarez accept a new deal at Liverpool despite being messed around with the release clause in that window? Because he'd earn more. And he left in the next window. But for the few months he did stay, he might as well have made the most of it.

Think about it. For 2 years you have tried to leave your employer and they have refused to let you go. Why would you sign a new contract with that employer when in 12 months time you could buy yourself out of that contract and go and play for a club you do want to play for on huge wages and who will pay you a huge signing on fee.

Everton are in the driving seat at the moment but as we found out with James Milner the player will win out in the end

If my workplace refused me a move to a better place of work on two separate occassions and placed a value on me far exceeding my current worth yet were reluctant to pay me a wage reflecting that value then yes, I'd wipe my arse with their sham of an offer. Fuck the paper cuts.

Everton didn't offer him a contract and wage reflective of their valuation of him when Chelsea came knocking, why do it again or why would he buy into it should they decide to offer him a new deal just so they can ask for more once again next season.

Everton will forever be midtable, investment/TV money or not, and you're denying a player his request to get out and bettter his career. I'd hope he'd shit at the gate first before taking any contract off your hands first.

The phrase goes "money or principles; pick one". Footballers think differently to you.

Everton will not be 'forever midtable'. That's just an extremely ignorant footballing opinion. Could I have said "City will forever be relegation candidates" ten years ago? Yes, but that would be stupid. Money changes things. Everton are on the path back to where they belong, where they have been for so many years. Whether you like it or not.

So they wouldn't accept 45 mill and ten mill in add ons, you are wrong and that comes from me.

Everton absolutely would accept that.

But that won't be offered.

We'll sign him and you won't see 50m unless we win the league and Champions League. Your tin pot chairman will be able to announce it as higher (just like the Sterling deal which was 44m) but you'll only ever see that money should we prove to be successful, in which case it'd be money well spent.

This is incorrect, no matter how much you want it to be true.





Gnight lads.

 

[efcblue]

Heard it before when Moyes said Lescott wasn't moving for less than £30M. We paid about £22M in the end.

Moyes + Kenwright =/= Koeman + Moshiri

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

I'm sure you do!



We have money. We need to spend it. As it stands, we're well within the FFP threshold. The issue is convincing the big names to come to Everton. Selling Stones isn't going to help, which is why it's no issue to us (more of a positive) if he is kept. If he does leave, it'll be for the most money possible and not a penny less.



Because 12 months is a long time and any human being would accept an extra £2,600,000 over that period.

Why did Suarez accept a new deal at Liverpool despite being messed around with the release clause in that window? Because he'd earn more. And he left in the next window. But for the few months he did stay, he might as well have made the most of it.





The phrase goes "money or principles; pick one". Footballers think differently to you.

Everton will not be 'forever midtable'. That's just an extremely ignorant footballing opinion. Could I have said "City will forever be relegation candidates" ten years ago? Yes, but that would be stupid. Money changes things. Everton are on the path back to where they belong, where they have been for so many years. Whether you like it or not.



Everton absolutely would accept that.

But that won't be offered.



This is incorrect, no matter how much you want it to be true.





Gnight lads.

Goodnight lar