John Stones

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If ever there was a case for a loan with an option to buy its Bony to Everton IMO. They can see if he works out (I think he will with game time) and they have the money to pay his wages in the meantime.

If I was Everton I'd be playing nicey nicey with City to get first dibs of castoffs, loans, academy products. Add them to what they have themselves and they'd be challenging Spurs for CL places.
 
I am not too fussed if we don't sign Stones. He is a good footballer, but is far from being a great defender.
 
If ever there was a case for a loan with an option to buy its Bony to Everton IMO. They can see if he works out (I think he will with game time) and they have the money to pay his wages in the meantime.

If I was Everton I'd be playing nicey nicey with City to get first dibs of castoffs, loans, academy products. Add them to what they have themselves and they'd be challenging Spurs for CL places.

Think it's the other way round

We should playing nicey nicey hoping they take him off our hands
 
We can play as hard ball as we like, they have no need to sell him so it will be their price or no price. He is a commodity to them that someone wants to buy. The fact he wants to join us, goes against us in terms of the dog wagging the tail

How have we out-priced the competition? As far as I was aware, there has been no one else sniffing around other than Chelsea last season. With the TV money, other clubs can afford him if they want

I think we will get him, but we will not be the ones deciding the fee

Mourinho wanted a new CB at United and bought that Bailly. Chelsea are after that CB from Napoli. Barcelona signed Umtiti.

That suggests that the clubs who have shown an interest in Stones are after a CB but haven't gone for him.

So either we have already agreed a deal with Stones and got rid of any competitors or they do not value him as high as we and Everton do.

Also, Everton still need to protect their asset. If he drops into the last 2 years of his contract then his value will plummet. Therefore, the decision is do they sell him or try and keep him long term when Stones has already made it clear that he wants out.

We have made made some serious inroads with this negotiation. With all the rumoured interest there could have been a bidding war. Yet we are in a position where we can at least try and negotiate a fee.

If we get him for £45 mil plus add ons I'd say that is a very good job well done from Txiki.
 
I am not too fussed if we don't sign Stones. He is a good footballer, but is far from being a great defender.
But the problem is mate, pep is fussed and can clearly see what the few on here can't, it was seen by the eye gouger and rest assured the opinion of perhaps the two best managers at the mo is the direction I would follow over the tv viewing from which most are basing their opinions on.
 
As a defender he would be £15M normally, should stay well away at teh numbers talked about. I don't know why City pay stupid prices for centre backs, and then they don't perform.
 
Mourinho wanted a new CB at United and bought that Bailly. Chelsea are after that CB from Napoli. Barcelona signed Umtiti.

That suggests that the clubs who have shown an interest in Stones are after a CB but haven't gone for him.

So either we have already agreed a deal with Stones and got rid of any competitors or they do not value him as high as we and Everton do.

Also, Everton still need to protect their asset. If he drops into the last 2 years of his contract then his value will plummet. Therefore, the decision is do they sell him or try and keep him long term when Stones has already made it clear that he wants out.

We have made made some serious inroads with this negotiation. With all the rumoured interest there could have been a bidding war. Yet we are in a position where we can at least try and negotiate a fee.

If we get him for £45 mil plus add ons I'd say that is a very good job well done from Txiki.

I agree we will no doubt end up buying him, but I maintain it will be Everton calling the shots.

Not sure about the bit highlighted, can you elaborate?
 
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