John Stones

[Andouble]

Apparently, according to that bastion of reliability known as twitter, we've more or less told Everton that £40m is our final offer, and to take it or leave it. It's on the Citywatch page.

Wasn't that the final offer they rejected last week? Did Txiki just send Kenwright a text back saying 'are you sure?'

 

[mosssideblue]

As I understand it we are as far away from a deal as we have ever been.

based on what

 

[BillyShears]

I fear you are forgetting the very FFP rules that Everton were all too eager to domestically endorse. You have a 38000 capacity shed of a ground, your income levels are a country mile below those of United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, and your spending levels and ability to attract top players will always be limited as a result, regardless of how much money your new owner has. We were lucky, we were the last ones over the drawbridge before the old Sky 4 teamed up with Platini, Milan, Munich & Co to try and nobble prospective future competitors. Meanwhile Everton went and joined the other turkeys voting for Christmas by agreeing to FFP in the Premier League. Sorry mate, but you ain't getting a snout in the trough - and by association, winning 'owt - anytime soon

The nail's head just met the hammer.

Our Everton supporting friend is doing a lot of big talking and on point he's right. Everton are rightly holding out for a fee. Where he's wrong is in thinking that just because they have new owners this situation is any different to Lescott, Fellaini, etc. The situation remains that a bigger more recently successful club playing European football is after one of their players. They can't keep him. They will sell him. They will absolutely compromise on the price whether it's in the structure or in the total fee. That's what happens when you have a player who only wants to go to one club and you know that keeping him is not a solution for anyone.

 

[Andouble]

based on what

Them demanding 50m and us not going above 40m, probably.

 

[mosssideblue]

I fear you are forgetting the very FFP rules that Everton were all too eager to domestically endorse. You have a 38000 capacity shed of a ground, your income levels are a country mile below those of United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, and your spending levels and ability to attract top players will always be limited as a result, regardless of how much money your new owner has. We were lucky, we were the last ones over the drawbridge before the old Sky 4 teamed up with Platini, Milan, Munich & Co to try and nobble prospective future competitors. Meanwhile Everton went and joined the other turkeys voting for Christmas by agreeing to FFP in the Premier League. Sorry mate, but you ain't getting a snout in the trough - and by association, winning 'owt - anytime soon

well said

 

[p.taker]

 

[ws01]

I say we give them a revised offer of £40,000,001.

 

[GeorgeHeslop'sTackle.]

Genuine question.

Has the lad put in an official transfer request? - If not, and he's hanging on hoping for a loyalty bonus, then the deal is dead in the water, in my opinion

 

[Rammy Blue]

Genuine question.

Has the lad put in an official transfer request? - If not, and he's hanging on hoping for a loyalty bonus, then the deal is dead in the water, in my opinion

He won't be worrying about a loyalty bonus when he'll be signing the whopping contract we've got on the table.

Oh, and yes, he's asked for a transfer.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

Genuine question.

Has the lad put in an official transfer request? - If not, and he's hanging on hoping for a loyalty bonus, then the deal is dead in the water, in my opinion

I actually think this is what's holding this all up. Everton are playing chicken with him over a loyalty payment. If he'd sense he'd forgo it to be in pre-season with us a quick as possible.