John Stones

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Not sure when Stones returns to training but... Everton's pre-season is as follows:

23/07 Barnsley away
26/07 MK Dons away
29/07 Dynamo Dresden away
30/07 Real Betis or Werder Bremen away
03/08 Rags away
06/08 Espanyol home
He returns tomorrow i believe.
 
What do you mean "so"? How old are you?

You're valuing Bony at less than 11 mill yet keep bleating on about him being valued at less than 20 mill.

You sound like a fucking fool.

Perhaps it wasn't clear.

I meant: what's your point?

Any further offensive replies will be permanently ignored, by the way. I treat everyone respectfully and I expect the same in return.

35 million + Bony. Would you be happy at that?

Not really. He hasn't played a proper season for you. He hasn't scored enough for you.

Would the Everton board take that? No.

Would Koeman take that? Perhaps.

Doesn't matter what we think. Bony is better than Lukaku. There will be a lot of City fans who will laugh at that. he has become a laughing stock and that is part of the problem. Few have faith in him. He was under a lot of pressure when Aguero was out and didn't do well, but missed pre-season due to malaria. Quality player though.

I'm not sure if you really do mean that or not...
 
if you strip the money away we are level. not hard to understand.
It's incorrect though, we are more popular-bigger worldwide presence, better facilities... more recent success(how are you quantifying the size of a club?), yes it was money that helped all of that along(with a lot of hard work to go with it) but you're not getting it... we are a much bigger club than we used to be and it's not just about the money anymore like I said you are doing our club a disservice in ignoring what has been achieved.

No disrespect to Everton that doesn't mean they are a small club(which I think is probably a better argument if anyone was trying to say that) but I don't see how you can argue they are on our level they would have quite some catching up to do to be considered that even if they did have as much money.

Anyway back on topic, still think it's a huge gamble at the prices touted, am I remembering right when I say he had a confidence crisis for a spell last season? How will a huge price tag hanging over his head affect him while settling into to a much better team with more world class players?
 
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Bony as he was at Swansea could probably give Lukaku as he was last season a run for his money, although I think Lukaku has the potential to be far better than Bony. Not really willing to judge anyone based on their performance at international tournaments, but Lukaku probably wants to leave Everton this summer, even if he didn't do himself much good at the Euros. However, if he does leave, Bony isn't a bad replacement at all. Stones on the other hand is almost guaranteed to leave Everton this summer and looks like it will be to us. I think this one could be done before the Sané deal, if the media is to be believed (granted it usually isn't), including Bony in the deal will really hold this back. Not that it matters as long as the deal is done.
 
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