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but really this is not a phenomena that can be pinned on MCFC for once.

What will happen when City try to sell players? Are we going tm e o be able to command these fees? I think I know the answer to that. There'll be a whole clutch of clubs who have sensibly stayed out of this madness and will be looking at loans at best.

The media will try to blame City however for the prices, I am sure of that.

City will have to off load many players one way or the other. Whether it it means loans or selling at a loss or paying players for doing nowt we will not get value for money.
 
I was reading the Liverpool Echo to get some background and they were discussing chelsea's interest in Lukaku referencing a story in the Mail

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...valuation-former-Blues-ace.html#ixzz4FDQBZeiA

The transfer mkt was like house prices a fluid moving market, but this Summer I have no idea of value. I doubt clubs have or any of the participants.

How do yo judge the value of a player in the transfer mkt? By the irrationality of other moves? Perhaps you compare it to the income that is coming into these clubs. The transfer market doesn't seem real at the moment, but these transfers still have to be paid and the reality is the revenue generating ability of successful teams.

Is this Summer a blip which is going to settle down, or is £25m now the going rate for a Premiership transfer? We know what's fuelling this, the Sky TV deal and the enormous riches available for success, but I no longer know how to benchmark what is value in the transfer mkt. It has all gone crazy. We might be involved with Stones but really this is not a phenomena that can be pinned on MCFC for once.

I know how you feel. But there must be bargains to be had. Klopp has picked up a CB for under five mill. Not that we know how good he will turn out. Can't be worse than the sixty mill plus we punted on CB's recently.

West Ham and Leicester have shown an eye for bargains. We got Nolito relatively cheap. I can't help but feel that we should also be looking for the sort of bargain Zabs turned out to be, as well as throwing money at clubs for star players.
 
I know how you feel. But there must be bargains to be had. Klopp has picked up a CB for under five mill. Not that we know how good he will turn out. Can't be worse than the sixty mill plus we punted on CB's recently.

West Ham and Leicester have shown an eye for bargains. We got Nolito relatively cheap. I can't help but feel that we should also be looking for the sort of bargain Zabs turned out to be, as well as throwing money at clubs for star players.
Academies and scouting networks have become more valuable. Foreign clubs will be looking at the bubble of the English transfer mkt and wondering about the impact. In theory all the talent should gravitate in time to English football. It works at club level, and we see the equalisation and intense competition. How will it work out for City? Good or bad? i think good but the league is getting to get very difficult to win.
 
It'll be £75 million by Monday.

Ah, I see you've forgotten to include wages, incremental bonus payments for the number of appearances made, a summer house in the Dordogne for his agent's cousin, a personal groomer for the Stones' family cat and a permanent reservation at Can Sole (plus air fares - club class) should any member of the player's family suddenly develop a late night hankering for authentic Catalan paella. Anyway, the true cost will be closer to £110 million than £75m.......
 
60 million for stones is silly money.

I predicted (not that it required any great perspicacity) weeks ago that this would end in acrimony with the player forced to threaten strike action, with City cast as the pantomime villain and the Blue Dippers as the plucky victims (who'd have thought). You can't do business with Scousers or Italians, cos the latter specialise only in political chicanery to make themselves look good in the eyes of their fans, and the former are consumed with bitterness over the fact that we've left them far behind and wish to occupy a faux moral high ground that exists only in their own heads
 
You say this but Lukaku just keeps scoring more goals each and every season. He has his flaws, don't get me wrong, but stats don't lie. And the stats say Bony isn't comparable.

If you want competitive leagues then Bony in the PL: 165 minutes per goal, Lukaku 180 minutes per goal. They do math differently in scouseland?

15 minutes per goal?

So does this mean David Nugent is a better striker for England than anyone else, because he played one and scored in one, thus having 90 minutes per goal.
So stats only apply when they back you up but as soon as it's shown that they don't support your arguments they suddenly don't count? Did I get that right?
 
60 million for Stones would make Phil Jones look like a bargain haha. God knows how Stones even has a thread with 500 pages, is the hype that real?
 
Underwhelming signing, we need an expeerienced centre half, not a kid with a lot to prove.
Same with Sane, looks very raw to me, big gamble.
 
Underwhelming signing, we need an expeerienced centre half, not a kid with a lot to prove.
Same with Sane, looks very raw to me, big gamble.
I don't know how Everton are looking at more money then they was wanting last year. Stones has had a very poor season and yet they think his value increased.
 
Agreed, I suppose with the English quota, his price was always going to remain stubbornly high but still, there should be a limit here as to what we should pay.
We really fell behind last season and needed a few top drawer signings, aswell as getting a load off the wage bill.
Those pricks down the road have got their act together it seems, it's still early days but we've got a few ins and outs to go!
 
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