John Terry [Merged]

[bobrivers]

That's assuming Ned stays with us long term - we seem able to pay £100k a week to the likes of bridge and bellamy, but it seems far lower amounts are applicable to the likes of Nedum and Daniel Sturridge - (even Stevie Ireland as a more established young player was apparently not amused with the contract offer at one stage). I personally think we should value the good young players within in a similar way to those we buy, so I am still not 100% convinced we will see the Onouha's and Mee's develop with us long term, but it is just my personal opinion and I hope I am very bloody wrong indeed - I want to see a MANCHESTER CITY team continue with a strong academy presence, it means a lot to a lot of City fans

If you're suggesting that Nedum should be on anywhere near £100k a week then I'm sorry but you are dead wrong... Bridge and Bellamy are experienced premiership players and established in their respective international teams.

When Nedum is 28 and has more international caps to his name he WILL be on £100k a week assuming he continues to improve enough to remain at the club.

It's just like any other job, as you get older and prove yourself then you earn the big pay rises... you don't get handed them on a plate. It's not like they are going to get paid anywhere near as much elsewhere (Sturridge being perhaps the exception as there was no doubt a sizable sign on fee).

That issue, I think, is one of the problems City will have to face at some point. The huge gap between the wages of your new acquisitions and the rest of the squad. Before you know it the agents for the "vastly underpaid" majority will be banging on Cook's office door demanding raises.

As for players waiting to get older to prove themselves before asking for bigger pay, it's nice to imagine that but it's far from reality. Professional athletes have a very short period of time in their lives when they can make their fortune and it can be cut even shorter by injuries, bad career choices, etc so no one in the modern footballing world would bide their time trying to be modest. Players nowadays are owned by agents who dictate the terms and plan of action,simple as that.

 

[Matt.D]

you have a great nack of using paper storys to create your own little theories, just like pollerz, cheers for that update

And, yet, you speak as though you know me and what I do.

I am allowed to profess opinion, alongside the snippets of info I am told, able to ask of people.

Cheers for your insight - oh, and it's stories.

sorry, what are you the grammar police? of course your allowed to profess an opinion on a football forum thats what its all about, but dont try and claim any sort of update or ITK information when you clearly know as much as the rest of us which is sweet FA except what we heard in the papers.

Ive read your posts for a while and not once have you shed any new light on any situation and virtually nothing youve said has come off. so in future if you have any opinions of what you think is happening, dont call it an update, you might want to start with .. my interpretation of what ive read/heard in the media is... honestly 'ITK' people like you are the reason people doubt the likes of spursmad who come along rarely, who have real solid information.

and theres probably about 50 words in there that are not gramatically correct you might want to pick up on.

 

[the--dud]

If you're suggesting that Nedum should be on anywhere near £100k a week then I'm sorry but you are dead wrong... Bridge and Bellamy are experienced premiership players and established in their respective international teams.

When Nedum is 28 and has more international caps to his name he WILL be on £100k a week assuming he continues to improve enough to remain at the club.

It's just like any other job, as you get older and prove yourself then you earn the big pay rises... you don't get handed them on a plate. It's not like they are going to get paid anywhere near as much elsewhere (Sturridge being perhaps the exception as there was no doubt a sizable sign on fee).

That issue, I think, is one of the problems City will have to face at some point. The huge gap between the wages of your new acquisitions and the rest of the squad. Before you know it the agents for the "vastly underpaid" majority will be banging on Cook's office door demanding raises.

As for players waiting to get older to prove themselves before asking for bigger pay, it's nice to imagine that but it's far from reality. Professional athletes have a very short period of time in their lives when they can make their fortune and it can be cut even shorter by injuries, bad career choices, etc so no one in the modern footballing world would bide their time trying to be modest. Players nowadays are owned by agents who dictate the terms and plan of action,simple as that.

You make good points, but I hate the argument about football players having a short amount of time to make their money...
A bit of math: 18 - 33 years "working as a footballer = 15 years times 52 weeks times £25k/week = bloody £19.5m!
£50k/week = £39m!

Footballers are absolutely loaded with cash, even if you're on £10k/week you're still making an average yearly wage in just 7 days! There is absolute NO DANGER of footballers not being able to sustain themselves after finishing playing. Unless you waste it all away on drugs/cars/investments, in which case you're a moron...

The reason they want more cash is human nature, you get accustomed to a certain life-style then you not only want to sustain it but you want MORE MORE MORE.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

And, yet, you speak as though you know me and what I do.

I am allowed to profess opinion, alongside the snippets of info I am told, able to ask of people.

Cheers for your insight - oh, and it's stories.

sorry, what are you the grammar police? of course your allowed to profess an opinion on a football forum thats what its all about, but dont try and claim any sort of update or ITK information when you clearly know as much as the rest of us which is sweet FA except what we heard in the papers.

Ive read your posts for a while and not once have you shed any new light on any situation and virtually nothing youve said has come off. so in future if you have any opinions of what you think is happening, dont call it an update, you might want to start with .. my interpretation of what ive read/heard in the media is... honestly 'ITK' people like you are the reason people doubt the likes of spursmad who come along rarely, who have real solid information.

and theres probably about 50 words in there that are not gramatically correct you might want to pick up on.

Nee naw nee naw nee naw nee naw...screech.

It's the ITK police, back to save us all.

New to the board but full of piss and vinegar...coming to a thread near you...soon.

 

[Ducado]

Can we keep this civil please!

 

[bizzbo]

As for players waiting to get older to prove themselves before asking for bigger pay, it's nice to imagine that but it's far from reality. Professional athletes have a very short period of time in their lives when they can make their fortune and it can be cut even shorter by injuries, bad career choices, etc so no one in the modern footballing world would bide their time trying to be modest.

Well, it's not quite the reality. The reality is that 'proving' oneself first at a lower level can enhance the players eventual earning capacity. This is one reason why Daniel Sturridge's move seems a little short-sighted. In the long run, he may have been better advised to join a club that offered a lower wage, but more first team opportunities (I'm not saying city would offer this). Still, it is understandable if the thought of a career threatening injury is a factor in players deciding to make the most of their earnings as soon as possible. It is a balancing act. Ambition & fulfilment vs financial security. Players and agents try to find a way to satisfy all criteria. Each situation is as different as one person is to another.

Players nowadays are owned by agents who dictate the terms and plan of action,simple as that.

Nonsense, simple as that. geaWorld and MSI have had successes but the practice of third party ownership will soon be outlawed completely. Players own themselves. Agents have to look after their clients, otherwise they will suffer as short a career as their first client. Listen to the agents, and they all say that they have to give the player what he wants. I can imagine that for some players, their interests coincide more or less with those their agents. I can imagine that some agents, some of the time, manipulate their clients to this effect. I can't imagine that any sane player would allow their agent to dictate the shape of their career, against their wishes, when the agent depends on them, not the other way around. It would be a one shot deal if an agent engineered a situation against their clients wishes. The player could sack them straight away, and they would find it difficult to recruit clients in the future.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

honestly 'ITK' people like you are the reason people doubt the likes of spursmad who come along rarely, who have real solid information.

I would say it is people like you who scare off the genuine people with info with your cynicism, by the way.

 

[Rammy Blue]

That issue, I think, is one of the problems City will have to face at some point. The huge gap between the wages of your new acquisitions and the rest of the squad. Before you know it the agents for the "vastly underpaid" majority will be banging on Cook's office door demanding raises.

As for players waiting to get older to prove themselves before asking for bigger pay, it's nice to imagine that but it's far from reality. Professional athletes have a very short period of time in their lives when they can make their fortune and it can be cut even shorter by injuries, bad career choices, etc so no one in the modern footballing world would bide their time trying to be modest. Players nowadays are owned by agents who dictate the terms and plan of action,simple as that.

You make good points, but I hate the argument about football players having a short amount of time to make their money...
A bit of math: 18 - 33 years "working as a footballer = 15 years times 52 weeks times £25k/week = bloody £19.5m!
£50k/week = £39m!

Footballers are absolutely loaded with cash, even if you're on £10k/week you're still making an average yearly wage in just 7 days! There is absolute NO DANGER of footballers not being able to sustain themselves after finishing playing. Unless you waste it all away on drugs/cars/investments, in which case you're a moron...

The reason they want more cash is human nature, you get accustomed to a certain life-style then you not only want to sustain it but you want MORE MORE MORE.

but what you miss out mate is that ending a career at 33 means you have got approx 40/50 years of life left where in an ideal world a footballer doesn't want to have to go out and find a new job.

of course some go on to management but i am confident that someone like JT will be looking at our 5 year salary/endorsements package of circa £100 mil and thinking "that sounds good"......

don't kid yourself for one minute that JT won't be motivated by his bank balance, more the "fear" of Abramovich that will make him think twice about requesting a move.

 

[Dobsy87]

JOHN TERRY IS A PENIS WHY DOESN'T HE JUST MAN UP AND MAKE A DECISION? I DON'T MIND EITHER WAY; COME TO CITY, STAY AT CHELSEA, WHATEVER. BUT DECIDE SO WE CAN ALL MOVE ON. HE'S HAD WEEKS NOW, THE FUD.

 

[Cambridgeblue]

JOHN TERRY IS A PENIS WHY DOESN'T HE JUST MAN UP AND MAKE A DECISION? I DON'T MIND EITHER WAY; COME TO CITY, STAY AT CHELSEA, WHATEVER. BUT DECIDE SO WE CAN ALL MOVE ON. HE'S HAD WEEKS NOW, THE FUD.

I'VE JUST FOUND THE CAPS LOCK KEY LOOK AT ME!